https://scienmag.com/climate-of-jupiter-and-saturn-may-yield-clues-to-earths-weather/
Liming Li, an assistant professor of physics in the UH College of Natural Sciences and Mathematics, is leading a team of scientists from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the University of Wisconsin-Madison to analyze data collected by instruments on board the Cassini spacecraft, which is on a mission to explore Saturn’s systems. Through two new projects awarded by NASA’s Planetary Science Division and funded for $709,000, Li and his team have the opportunity to study data collected aboard Cassini as it relates to climate. An international mission, Cassini is supported by NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.
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They keep using that term (greenhouse). I do not think it means what they think it does.
What is UH?
That’s weird: when you read the actual article, Dr Li isn’t saying what Morano wants you to believe he is saying.
I wonder how that happened…
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I’m not sure what you are reading but, that is exactly what it says.
Nope, and you can’t find a passage in the actual article that actually says what Morano asserts.
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you didn’t click the article link then.
Oh, looky: another one who can’t find a passage in the actual article that actually says what Morano asserts.
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From the article linked If you need help I can show you how to find it. “On Earth, the incoming energy is about the same as the outgoing energy. That means the temperature doesn’t change dramatically, even with greenhouse effects,” he said. “Saturn and Jupiter are emitting more energy than absorbed, so they are generating some type of internal heat. Earth and Titan are similar, with no significant internal heat.”
Yet the temperature still changes, and increasing GHGs raises the temps. Thanks!
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You found the quote for him and all he could do was come back with a lame response. THAT shows how shallow and ignorant he truly is. He isn’t worth anyone’s time.
UH is University of Houston, in Texas.
This review does not seem to point to the long term effects of “Green House Gasses” but rather to the short term. Short term seeming to be periods of the planets year. For Earth that would be 1 year, for Saturn and Jupiter that is 30+ years. Without a definitive statement from the researchers as to the time scale they are talking about I don’t think you can say much other than that the “Green House” effect over a planets “year” is insignificant for Earth vs a “year” on Jupiter & Saturn.
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This is along the lines of what I’ve been wondering about. We have satellites recording energy from space and reflecting from the earth. If we can measure both year-over-year and they correlate with each other [i.e., does higher energy from space correlate with higher energy from Earth, do energy levels from Earth reduce over time as that energy is trapped in the atmosphere, etc.], wouldn’t that prove or disprove this theory? If there’s no statistical difference over a sampled time, then the greenhouse effect isn’t happening, and if there is, then it’s possible. That seems like a much more common-sense approach, measurable and verifiable, then using computer models to guess the future. We can’t predict the path or intensity of hurricanes with significant accuracy after 24 hours or so, but we can tell what the climate in ten years will be? Especially when multiple models all predict different results?