By Meteorologist Paul Dorian – Vencore, Inc.
The latest solar image is completely spotless for the second time this month; image courtesy NASA
Overview
For the second time this month, the sun has gone completely blank. On June 4th, the sun went completely spotless for the first time since 2011 and that quiet spell lasted for about 4 days. Sunspot regions then reappeared for the next few weeks on a sporadic basis, but are once again completely missing from the surface of the sun. The blank sun is a sign that the next solar minimum is approaching and there will be an increasing number of spotless days over the next few years. At first, the blankness will stretch for just a few days at a time, then it’ll continue for weeks at a time, and finally it should last for months at a time when the sunspot cycle reaches its nadir. The next solar minimum phase is expected to take place around 2019 or 2020. The current solar cycle is the 24th since 1755 when extensive recording of solar sunspot activity began and is the weakest in more than a century with the fewest sunspots since cycle 14 peaked in February 1906.
Sunspot numbers for solar cycles 22, 23 and 24 which shows a clear weakening trend; courtesy Dr. David Hathaway, NASA/MSFC
Solar cycle 24
We are currently more than seven years into Solar Cycle 24 and it appears the solar maximum of this cycle was reached in April 2014 during a spike in activity (current location indicated by arrow). Going back to 1755, there have been only a few solar cycles in the previous 23 that have had a lower number of sunspots during its maximum phase. The peak of activity in April 2014 was actually a second peak in solar cycle 24 that surpassed the level of an earlier peak which occurred in March 2012. While many solar cycles are double-peaked, this is the first one in which the second peak in sunspot number was larger than the first peak. The sunspot number plot (above) shows a clear weakening trend in solar cycles since solar cycle 22 peaked around 1990.
While a weak solar cycle does suggest strong solar storms will occur less often than during stronger and more active cycles, it does not rule them out entirely. In fact, the famous “superstorm” known as the Carrington Event of 1859 occurred during a weak solar cycle (number 10). In addition, there is some evidence that most large events such as strong solar flares and significant geomagnetic storms tend to occur in the declining phase of the solar cycle. In other words, there is still a chance for significant solar activity in the months and years ahead. The last solar minimum phase lasted from 2007 to 2009 and it was historically weak. In fact, it produced three of the most spotless days on the sun since the middle 1800’s (bar graph below).
Top “sunspotless” days since 1849; the last solar minimum phase produced 3 of these years
Consequences of a solar minimum
Contrary to popular belief, solar minimum is not a period of complete quiet and inactivity as it is associated with numerous interesting changes. First, cosmic rays surge into the inner solar system with relative ease during periods of solar minimum. Galactic cosmic rays coming from outside the solar system must propagate upstream against the solar wind and a thicket of solar magnetic fields. Solar wind decreases and sun’s magnetic field weakens during solar minimums making it easier for cosmic rays to reach the Earth. This is a more dangerous time for astronauts as the increase in potent cosmic rays can easily shatter a strand of human DNA. Also, during years of lower sunspot number, the sun’s extreme ultraviolet radiation (EUV) drops and the Earth’s upper atmosphere cools and contracts. With sharply lower aerodynamic drag, satellites have less trouble staying in orbit— a good thing. On the other hand, space junk tends to accumulate, making the space around Earth a more dangerous place for astronauts.
Meteorologist Paul Dorian
Vencore, Inc.
#
1,256 Responses
Time to buy up heating oil now before the ice age begins.
Yep they feed us distorted temperature data on their climate models they constantly shoving down our throat but don’t even talk about the sun and it’s strange cycles and activity.
It’s almost, as if, they don’t want to admit the sun has effects on Earth’s weather.
Yep. The Earth will enter into a cooling phase. Look up the Maunder Minimum. The academic proponents of anthropogenic global warming will do anything including removal of funding if any solar scientists make any reference to the Solar minimum cooling the Earth. Money talks and your career will walk if you talk:)
the sad funny thing; it was some of these same “scientists” who filed the man made global cooling theory “the mini Ice Age” paperwork for science grant money starting the money for false data scheme that morphed into man made global warming. you know the idiots that declared war on “FREON” a brand name of coolant gases made by DuPont. Global man made cooling The Mini Ice AGE just 20 short years ago fraud at it’s best
It does have an effect but when the EPS refuses to release its raw data to prove what it says . . . . Well we think they are lying. Not that our government has not lied to use before, but they have zero credibility.
ya, like the UFO’s and live alien they hide from the people 🙂
The rebuttal I receive to the sun argument is that its already been determined (by concensus?) that the sun has no effect.
Get rid of the sun and what happens to earth’s climate? That’s the rebuttal to their rebuttal.
Ding ding ding. Give that one a prize.
Yeah and a consensus is a political attribute NOT scientific. Science is based on facts as we know them today.
Politics indeed! The AGW fiasco is identical to Lysenkoism in the USSR between 1930 1960.
along with about a thousand other ‘consensus’ theories gone down the drain over time
Who said that -Obama? Thought so.
The sun isn’t a gas giant. We’re not even in a solar system. It is geocentric and the sun is closer than you’ve been led to believe.
Only when I’m looking in my cars review mirror
No. the passengers side view mirror. It even says that things are closer than they appear, everyone knows that…..Sheesh.
How close? Of course we are in the solar system. Take an astrophysics course in college prereqs are all calculus classes and 2 years of physics. Then you are allowed to talk
If that’s true, and I am sure it isn’t, Arizona is closer to the sun than the rest of earth.
ok then, we don’t need the sun…agreed, and all deniers will be executed…
They’re clearly heretics. I say off with their heads!!!
ah yes, the guillotine…the reason for which the wheel was invented…
Agreed!!!
They cannot TAX the SUN!
They tax rain in Maryland.
now you’re getting it! UN Agenda 21 – redistribute America’s wealth to… THEM
Bull***t they can’t. A creative DimocRAT can come up with a tax on anything.
yes, yes…much easier than actually fixing a problem…
try carbonated sodas
Yet.
Not yet…but Hillary has a Soros group working on it !
Don’t put it past liberals to try.
The sun IS the reason for earth’s weather.
The earth being tilted on its axis are the reason. No seasons on other planets.
Other planets have seasons.
Other planets have axial tilts. All of them do. Ranging from 3 degrees(Jupiter) to 170 degrees(Venus).
Don’t say that, you may face jail time!!
that would mean admitting there is a higher power…
Earth temperature varies cyclically between warming and cooling. Some of these “astronomical harmonics models” are: 9.1 solar/lunar tidal cycle, the 11.2 year Wolf sunspot cycle, a 20 year cycle, the 60 year Jupiter/Saturn Tri-Synodic Conjunction cycle, the 2000 year solar intensity cycle and the Milankovitch cycles of 26,000, 41,000, and 100,000 years. These cycles drive oceanic oscillations (PDO, AMO, etc.) and cloud formation.
The dominant cycle is the 60 year Jupiter/Saturn Tri-Synodic Conjunction cycle. When Jupiter and Saturn align, they change the solar system center of gravity, drawing the sun closer to the inner planets and warming them. This cycle has been traced back for years hundreds of years and thousands of years ago it was documented in Chinese and other records and pagan celebrations.
When I was a kid, we were taught that ALL heat on planet earth came from the sun. The sun isn’t just a contributor, it dominates everything climate-wise, and without it, we would be nothing but a frozen rock. So yes, you are right. We never hear about the sun because the climate alarmists want to blame human activity for any changes.
The Sun: The Primary Cause of Global Warming Since 4,000,000,000 BP
The “truth” requires common sense and intelligence. ‘Nuff said?
Just started a book about a scientist who has been studying polar bears for 40yrs and says that the population is more than 4x what it was in the 70s as well he has proven that polar bears do not exclusively eat seals, but a much broader diet than most scientists will acknowledge…(he analyzes their poop) Quite fascinating read bc we hear all he time how all science shows…
now that is genuine crap science…
Yep, poo don’t lie.
Cosmic rays can also assist in cloud formation by providing nucleation sites (from ionization) for droplets to form. Clouds block incoming solar radiation, therefore cooling the atmosphere.
Yup. Henrick Svensmark’s work, and that of others, have demonstrated that connection of solar activity and our climate. IPCC, of course, ignores it.
And let’s not forget that the most common greenhouse gas is water vapor. Total CO2 is minor in comparison.
And Greenland ice core data suggests that atmospheric CO2 is regulated by global temperatures, not the other way around as IPCC assumes.
Actually, there was spotless day in 2014, check the left hand side on:
http://spaceweather.com/
No doubt caused by man-made global climate change.
It’s because of the Brexit leave vote.
Very valid point.
If the benefits of staying were so damn great, I’m sure they would have remained, and continued to support the world’s parasites. Nothing but blue skies ahead!!
No; no it was four blood moons that caused this
One wonders if that’s why the last several tornado seasons have been a total flop. How many years now without an authentic fujita F3? Last F4 or 5? Tuscaloosa? I’ve put my tornado chasing equipment in storage and bought a new bowling ball.
I blame George W. Bush.
Because he hate black people.
Yes he do. Just ax him
He say he dindu nuffin!
Da sun iz racis.
It will always be “BUSH’S FAULT”.., Just ask any Dim.
So much for obama’s global warming. Back to coal to keep us warm. Just got to get him out of office.
Hillary likely has stolen the sun spots to sell.
Perfect time for rates to “necessarily skyrocket.”
Barry of “skyrocket” days remains as clueless as ever. On the immigration loss at SCOTUS, he whines wah wah wah if my nominee was in place, I woulda won. Oh really? How do you how he would have voted? Because if you traded the nomination for a deal on pending cases, that’s a crime, Mr. Constitutional “professor”
Last time a Clinton was involved in spots they were all over a blue dress. The liberals all thought that was great. They even named a 24 hour news channel after him Clinton News Network, (CNN).
The only secret hillary tried to keep!
Classic !
<<"my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj29nx
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj29n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsExcellenceGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj29n….,…..
Are you selling sunspots?
‘Mary, you ignorant slut…’
Violet, if I pay you 50 bucks extra..will you use your mouth?
So, that’s Jeffery Epstein’s site?
Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, White places for Everybody?
When is diversity or mass immigration or so-called anti racism ever demanded of any non white peoples anywhere?
If diversity is such a strength, why is this “gift” given to European populations only, when there are so many non white populations that
“need” it much more?
Diversity means chasing down the last white person.
It’s white Ge no cide
Federal-mandated diversity is great for lefty politicians but not so much for little girls:
–The Obama-appointed U.S. attorney for Idaho has taken the highly unusual step of intervening in a local criminal case involving an alleged sexual assault by juvenile Muslim migrants and threatened the community and media with federal prosecution if they “spread false information or inflammatory statements about the perpetrators.”
WND and other news outlets have reported on the case involving three juvenile boys, two from Sudan and one from Iraq, who allegedly sexually assaulted a 5-year-old special-needs girl in the laundry room of the Fawnbrook Apartments in Twin Falls, Idaho.
The incident occurred on June 2, but did not come to light until more than two weeks later when stories began to swirl on social media.
The two older boys from Sudan were arrested on June 17 and released from juvenile detention less than a week later on June 23 pending further court proceedings.–
http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/06/explosive-new-twist-in-idaho-sex-assault-case/
Well, if they are guilty without a doubt, the community has the responsibility to snuff them out! Where they’ve come from, the communities stone people to death for whatever the imam decides! Raping a five year old is probably just a misdmeanor in their culture! I have no faith in government sponsered diversity either! Government sucks a protectiing the good people and innocents!
Then I guess that the US military personnel that raped the Japanese woman needs to be snuffed out as well, correct? Let’s not forget all the military females that have been raped by their male counterparts as well. Let’s snuff all of them out as well, especially since the US military does not hold themselves any more accountable than the rest of this POS government! Why don’t you tell our Saudi supporting government and all the George Bushes of the world to hold Saudi Arabia RESPONSIBLE for 9-11 then I will believe in the USA. USA of HYPOCRISY.
Well, if they are guilty without a doubt; then yes, they should be snuffed as well! As a a minimum they should get their johnny wacked off, because not all societies have capital punishment! Maybe the victim should be able to decide! Unfortunately for you, I’m not the one that can help you! And, I’m not your hypocrit!
White society is like a canvas for other to piss on, oh, I mean paint on.
Classic statement, although we do have our own share of piss stains, I mean golden paint sploshes, on the white canvas. However, since the massive influx of these middle easterners and others began in such high numbers, the crap stains, I mean brown paint sploshes, on the white canvas are overtaking the golden ones! No culture is perfect, but their’s is certainly several hundred centuries behind! More like jackasswards I’d say!
Fight back America and Europe, don’t take this crap on your white canvas!
They aren’t getting here on their own! The CIA and State Dept. are directly responsible for this crime against America’s women.
Do you really think these people want to be in a society of haters? I apologize to each and every one of the Muslims, Iranians, Iraqis, Africans, and all the rest of the races around the world that our USA government is 100% RESPONSIBLE for the turmoil in their countries. How many countries call other countries TERRORIST, and then go arming every terrorist nation in the world with the only thing the USA knows how to make and that is WEAPONS to MURDER innocent people for rich, white men and women’s greed. It SUCKS to be an American! I am waiting for the takeover by any country, can’t be as lame as the US government.
I think you’re misdirecting your rage. You’re preaching to the chior as
far as I’m concerned, and making alot of assumptions that you’re the
only one that cares! Unfortunately Mr. Trump is the only candidate that might be able to make positive change on a road to recovery as a nation! There are others, but they don’t stand to get elected. If Mr. Trump cannot be our tool for positive change, then the gig is up! Afterall, as you well know we’re long overdue!
Good and interesting points, something that would never make it into a liberal’s space filled mind! Liberals don’t have pea brains as some have claimed; they have these huge space filled ones where you used to be able to fly a kite or bottle rockets! But now-a-days you can send off rocket ships in there to other realms of their fantasy universes. Kites, to Bottle Rockets, to Rocket Ships, that’s progressivism for ya!
Spam
Are you saying white people are causing the lack of sunspots, or raving about some other nonsense?
Don’t cry snowflake. Just go to your safe space
So that answers my question. You are raving.
Amen Brother frankstclair. Do detect a heavy wave of insanity coming from many angles in the USA today ?
Aye. And people have their own insanity hobby horse that gets injected into every conversation.
I agree my friend
They only want your wealth, they have no desire to even be around you, just as a mugger only wants your wallet or purse.
sound like the government.
It is funny how the people of color have run wicked imperialist white people out of their countries but now feel entitled to unfettered access to the countries of those white people.
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3853/5936/original.jpg
Let’s speak the truth, shall we? David Patraeus, resigned into early Mil.Gov retirement on $250,000 a year pension, free Tri-care, and free Space-A travel anywhere he wants to go shopping, fined $100,000 that was paid for by taxpayers, and got two years ‘probation’ with no parole officer, which he ignored as he’s already back on the shill circuit for the NeoLiberals. Nobody is following that story, unlike Snowden or Clinton.
Apparently you aren’t happy with the punishment the General received. But I think you missed the point of the comparison of the consequences for the General and Snowden vs clinton. Are you happy clinton has been punished not at all for her egregious criminal assault on our National Security?
The simple fact is that both generals Patraeus and McChrystal were sacked because they were suspected of having political ambitions – Republican political ambitions. Their “violations” pale into absurd insignificance when compared with Hillary’s handling of TOP SECRET documents, which are now most assuredly in the hands of the KGB/GRU and the Chinese intelligence services, both of which are now licking their chops at having Hillary the Hideous in the White House and under their full control.
“Hey, Hill, this is Vlad. How ya doin’? Hill, we need the exact grid coordinates of all your anti-missile sites, and I mean right down to the last centimeter. That’s right, every one in all the NATO countries and all the US sites. We also need daily updates on the locations of all your missile subs. And Hill, the Chinese are buggin’ me about delivering the stuff to them as soon as I get it.
What? Hey, Hill, I don’t give any s— about your upcoming congressional elections. That’s your problem – what the hell, you’ve got every 120 year-old black and Hispanic voting for you; you can handle it. Now I that need missile information, and I need it right now. Got it?
And the moron wants our guns.
Actually, she’s smart for wanting to confiscate all our guns if she happens to get into office. The likelihood would be that fewer of them would be pointed in her general direction.
She could do bullet control, though there would be major bullet buying.
<< my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj40n:
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj40n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsAuthorityGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj40n….,…..
She can’t have my guns but she sure can have my bullets. At least the front end of said bullets.
They can have all of mine. Bring an oven mitt and a sack lunch. Barrel first and empty and red hot.
I believe your scenario has already happened which would make her a spy and an enemy of the state. That punishment doesn’t come with a fine.
But there is no punishment for Democrats – ever. They are the Chosen Vermin.
I would pay to see her roasted over an open fire but in reality she will be sentenced to a pedicure with a dull clipper by a heterosexual woman…and she will complain bitterly about it. Huma me on this.
The pension you listed is complete BS, the highest ranking General or SES doesn’t come close to that amount.
For his 38 years of service Petraeus receives a $220,000 annual pension.
Wrong. “McHugh’s decision, approved by Defense Secretary Ash Carter, allows Petraeus to retain his full pension estimated at $208,000 per year, based on the military’s formula for calculating retirement pay. If the Army had docked him a star, his pension would have dropped to about $184,000 per year.” per USA Today article dated 2 March 2016.
Well, if it’s in the USA Today it as to be correct…! And rest assured the NY Times will back up the USA Todays figures!
NYT as backup ?
Martin may never sing Soprano a g a i n
the new york times is a fading URL tumbled out of sight – sound Thank-u-GOD
Yes Gary! Thank God these prapaganda newspapers are dying…!
And they will fill his pockets other ways. They all need to hang.
b u t
there are few uses for an untrustworthy general … retired … damn few
And, the way things are going, Hillary is likely to walk away with no punishment, even though what she did was far more egregious than what Gen. Petraeus did. So, what’s your point?
By a factor of at least a thousand!
Yup!
Brace yourself, like it or not…The fix is in…Hillary Clinton… POTUS
DONE DEAL!
The country is too corrupted.
It’s not how many vote, it’s who counts the votes!
Hillary To Obama: If I Go Down, You Go Down – Judge Jeanine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF0Jwbbvqb8
“Hillary To Obama: If I Go Down, You Go Down”
On the same guy at the same time? Ewwwwww.
<< my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj40n:
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj40n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsAuthorityGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj40n….,….,.
i wouldn’t want her to go down on my dog, she would give him some disease, not to mention freak him out as the ugliest bich ever to try to go down on him
Well, the media is indirectly pushing for it with a woman preident in ID4 and the new Supergirl season. They did something similar before the gay marriage vote.
the smell of Democrats … lingers … like a family of skunks left on Highway #10 to dry to become nature itself
time for the clintons to cash in THEIR chips 4 real gold
Shall we, we shall:
Petraeus misdemeanoris really minor compared to Clinton..He confined a secret to someone WITH THE SAME CLEARANCE AS HIM, whom he entirely trusted, and COULD trust.
He also had a striling record of achievement.
Hillary INSTRUCTS other people to shuffle around beyond top secret info on a Mickey Mouse server she set up in order to escape( illegally) scrutiny of her corrupt shennanigans.
Hillary previous achievements is getting away with all her other crimes
Don’t know where you get the $250K pension. Fact is that the max he can be getting from his military retirement is 75% of the statutorily limited base pay of $15,125.10 a month a four star can make. This would be a maximum of $136,125.90 a year. And, Tri-Care is not free — inexpensive perhaps, but not free.
Actually, he retired at over 92% of base pay (new law allows 2.5%/year for time served up to 100% of base pay). Still, that equates to $169k/year, not $250K. Also, Snowden’s breach if FAR more serious than Petraeus. It’s one thing to give you mistress access to secrets (which, OBTW she had the clearance, just not the “need to know”) and dumping millions of pages into the public realm. And Clinton..we don’t know what was mishandled and may never. But TS/SCI photography doesn’t “accidentally” make it’s way from classified systems to a private, commercial server without human intervention.
Didn’t know about the change in the law. And, don’t disagree with anything else you say. Just wanted to point out that peedee is letting his/her fingers type faster than his/her knowledge should let them. Premise of the Tad Gnarly post is pretty much spot on. HRC will get away with everything even if she loses the election. Lots of time for an Obama pardon between 9 Nov 2016 and 20 Jan 2017.
Fix is in, plain and simple. I’ve never been a pessimist about America… Until now.
How does this affect the sunspot cycle?
The pay change was appantly cause by the cycle.
I thought the max retirement was 50%, but I served several solar cycles ago.
50% of base pay at 20 years. An additional 2.5% per year for each year served past 20 years to a maximum of 75% of base pay.
<< my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj40n:
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj40n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsAuthorityGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj40n……,….,.
You’re forgetting the under the table tax free money $$$$$$$$$$$$ that always comes their way after years of loyal service.
And what tax-free under the table money is that? Son of retired military, brother of two other retired military and none of them got tax-free under the table money. Tell me where it comes from so they can get their share.
Patraeus heinous crime was sharing his personal calendar with his girl friend who also had very high security clearance. Clinton’s crimes are much much worse.
Not to mention, she was the war correspondent that was with him in Iraq, and she was working on a book about the time spent there. That’s all this was – book research with an old war buddy.
And he is a Bilderberg
Sorry, but Tri-Care is not free, nor is Space “A”. Shills like you spouting things you no nothing about because you never served makes you look stupid. His fine was NOT paid for by the taxpayer unless you consider EVERY dollar he made as a taxpayer dollar and that his service during that time was for naught. See, he served his country for 20+ years, EARNING every dollar he was paid.. EARNING!! By working 12+ hours a day, sometimes for weeks at a time like the rest of us do and did. And how do you know about his probation rules and whether he followed them? Did SOMEONE else tel you that to repeat like a good little shill???? How much of what you just spouted out was based on researched FACT and how much was just left wing bull-fertilizer hearsay?? What a baffoon you have turned out to be!
Unless the military has drastically upped their pay scales, I don’t think he ever made $250k/year. Maybe he did with housing benefits, combat pay and per diem for working overseas. At thirty years, a military member retires at 70% of their base pay which does not include housing, combat, per-diem or any other type of pay. My guess, without looking it up would put him around 100-150k/year. Feel free to enlighten me. I’m a retired military officer so I have some familiarity with the subject.
General Petraeus and Edward Snowden should not be running for President either…
well that’s hills gravy train the shill ckt! as for his so called crime he handed over just a few classified info about the war to his mistress hillary has over 2100 emails hooked to a unsecure server linked to her foundation! are you so dense or don’t care that she probably sold those secrets for donations or that most of those donations are coming from foreign entities especially china she met up with while running state! as for pratreus he earned his pension what has hillary earned?
and he doesn’t have to be president either. It only took what 5 years for the justice department to close his case file so he could apply for security clearance again.
Go serve in the Army for 20 years and you will get Tri-Care too…its not all that great actually. And space A, lol…..its not worth it…if you have a week to get to Tulsa via Michigan, and stay up for three days, ..hey its great! You are an idiot. Oh, and no Govt worker ever got 250K….are you from Colorado? YOu must be smoking.
As Louie Armstrong sang, “What a wonderful world……”
And never forget what Gore Vidal always said about the USA. The USA of Amnesia. How long til the lights go out and China takes over? Keep up the illegal wars and it will happen sooner rather than later. An empire cannot stand.
I think you’re misdirecting your rage. You’re preaching to the chior as far as I’m concerned, and making alot of assumptions that you’re the only one that cares!
There is also Assange..
In fact you cannot “steal” a document really, you can only copy it which means changing its viewership
Which is what assange did really..he didnt steal any of the cables he just made them visible to the rest of the world..just like Hillary.
Ask Sandy Berger about stealing documents.
Edward Snowden is a hero; and anyone that thinks less, is someone that is willing to give away every right we have as a human being, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney should be put into the photo. Then you would have a complete lineup (taking Snowden out of the picture) to stand before a firing squad for ALL their treason, lies, and terrorism. Obama should be charged as the biggest war criminal in history. He is starting to make daddy Bush look like a choir boy. I know most are either too young or has the standard USA of amnesia syndrome to remember when Daddy Bush ran Iran Contra our of the VP’s office while Reagan slept or stuffed himself on jellybeans.
The issue is handling of classified material. Why don’t you take your “I hate Bush” hobby horse somewhere where that is the topic rather than trying to hijack a thread where the majority of commenters don’t wear tinfoil hats?
The topic is climate change and you’re talking about Clinton…
I guess a CIA official that is put out to the public by Dick Cheney and Robert Novak wasn’t considered REVEALING classified information? Why the hypocrisy? Talk about the tin foil. You need to remove it from your brain and remember past history instead of the BS you are fed by this POS government and media? Why don’t you ask Valerie Plame about classified information being given out by the Bush administration. Call a spade a spade. Mine is based on fact, what is yours based on? Flawed logic?
“Break classification rules for the public’s benefit, and you could be exiled.
Do it for personal benefit, and you could be President.”
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) June1 2016
This makes perfect sense to all the liberals out there who are capable of “cognitive dissonance” (the ability to maintain belief in two or more opposing ideas or concepts simultaneously within the same brain), which turns out to be all of them.
and she still tried to lie about that.
Come on now!
The FBI checked that dress, looked in all the pockets, and all they found was a wad of Bills.
Now that was very good.
No, it was a Wad of Bill’s! Get it right damnit! That was such a very funny post!!! LMAO!
But wait that wasn’t sex, it was an oral whatever.
I’m sure my wife would look at it the same way……
Hmmmm….I thought that was Communist News Network.
I always thought that was C No News
And she blamed it on the vast right wing conspiracy. So apparently Newt forced Bill to come on Monica’s dress then hid the dress for evidence later! Sounds like the right wing conspiracy alright!
I’m sure you tried to say something intelligent, it just didn’t come out that way. Perhaps if you rephrase this I could figure out what side you are taking or what your point is.
Maybe you aren’t old enough to remember this happening, or aren’t intelligent enough to comprehend sarcasm.
Haw!
RayGun. . .
Good Point. . .but I think the article was “Sun Spots” not “Some Spots”. . .LMAO Hehe
But then I recall the immortal words of Crooked Hil-LIAR-Y:
What Difference does it make. . .
Cosmic Rays from Sun Spots or Comic Spray for Some Spots
As for Obama, He blames the lack of spots as George Bush’s fault.
I thought it was the Communist News Newwork.
Hosted by Wolf Blitzkrieg the Israeli shill.
Booo !
Good point though……!
She wiped the sun clean of them clean just like her hard drives.
with a rag?
With a cloth!
She probably just looked up at the sun.
Wait, this must be caused by man made global warming.
Quick! We have to start a Sun-Spot Tax so we can blow holes in the Sun by sending Atomic bombs to it’s surface!
Yes, if “Sol” refuses to pay a fine for its disorderly conduct, it must be punished.
very wise indeed
Man made? Yep, Trump did it. If the libs ever hear about this they’ll be rioting in the streets calling for Trump’s death.
Trump did it testing his own personal nuke arsenal.
because he is a Nazi, of course.
Ironic that a Nazi would support Israel 100% but it’s probably all part of some elaborate con game, then again with Trump you never know…
Well he does want to dismantle large swaths of the Constitution…
Yep, Exxon and Georege Bush are to blame and the only way to counteract this is to transfer billions of dollars to Al Gore and his friends.
I’m sure Brother Al would agree as he has made a fortune saying quite loudly that the world is ” Burning with a FEEEEEEEEEEEver !!
Why do you ignorant right-wingers always have to bring politics into every discussion? This story has absolutely nothing to do with American politics so unless you actually have something intelligent to say, which I highly doubt, buzz off!
Obama is a criminal.
And that has to do with sunspots…how?!? Dumbass!
From Barack Hussein Obama on the topic of sunspots:
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”
-Barack Hussein Obama, in his book, The Audacity of Hope, 2006
“Barack Obama was steeped in Islam. He knew a lot about Islam from his childhood. But he knew very little about Christianity.” — Rev. Jeremiah Wright to author Ed Klein, 2012
“The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
– Barack Hussein Obama, Cairo speech, 2008
“ISIL is not Islamic.”
– Barack Hussein Obama, speech September, 2014
“The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet Of Islam”
– Barack Hussein Obama, United Nations speech, 2012
“We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
– Barack Hussein Obama, speech in Turkey, 2009
“The number of Muslims in the U.S. would make America one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,”
– Barack Hussein Obama, JERUSALEM – 06/03/2009
“Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
– Barack Hussein Obama, June 28, 2006
“We don’t have a strategy (to fight ISIL)…”
-Barack Hussein Obama, remarks to reporters, July 2014
“We have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam”
-Barack Hussein Obama, French TV
20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam and Mohammed
#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world including in my own country.”
#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
#6 “Islam has always been part of America”
#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#10 “I made clear that America is not and never will be at war with Islam.”
#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
#14 “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants, farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
SLAM!! I love comprehensive reviews of the Clueless In Chief…..regardless of the topic at hand. It’s odd the libbies that never tired of dragging either Bush (I or II) or Reagan into any conversation are now suddenly upset.
As I said, they can dish it out but they can’t take it.
I had no idea how brazen Obama’s support for Islam has been. I remember some of these quotes, but seeing them all together is rather telling of where his allegiance lies. I don’t think America is part of that allegiance. I hope Trump can sweep in and end the foolishness that has taken over our country. We have forgotten who we are. I believe Trump can fix the sunspots too! (tie-in to article)
Dear god, I pray you are correct, Amen!
Now I dare you to believe, he’s not the Imposter in Chief!
Obama is right everyone. Quit trying to put down a man of genius. Our founding Fathers all bowed to Mecca 5 times a day 5 TIMES A DAY .Yes cut out of our history books by right wing goose stepping Neanderthal crazies.
Most of my physical science professors, full, associate, adjunct, are politically liberal/ progressive. So the safe presumption is that what we find here is a witches coven of redneck Republicans with more nyah- nyah attitude than space science knowledgability.
Your comment just goes to show that you can’t make someone intelligent just because you give them a piece of paper.
Why let formal education get in the way of learning ?
<<"my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj29nx
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj29n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsExcellenceGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj29n….,…
You say this until they try to levy a sun-spot tax on your Solar Panels. Not in my backyard you will say…
Actually, the vast majority of our math and science profs are center right because they lean toward verifiable data over emotion. But you couldn’t get in here anyway.
Your boast of emotionless center- right cyborgs in numerous positions of academic authority is an unsuportable assertion. The turgid rigidity of politically conservative thinking has blighted many lives, but seldom actually accompanies innovative scientific thought and accomplishment. Of course an admission that this is generally accurate by politically reactionary trolls of the sort on display here is not expected . Would you like to extol the mindless presidential actions of G.W.Bush? I would enjoy further comic relief from the bunkers of conservative trolldom.
Jay, its time to change your pad, you are getting grumpy and on the same cycle as Chris. Aiyiyiyi.
No more feeding of juvenile trolls, I’m done.
No Jay please tell us more of your liberal education. Tell us how your professors extolled the virtues of Che and how buying toilet paper in Venezuela is a grand experiment in humanism. Maybe it is because of rightwing control that the oil rich South American country that had nothing but a bright future with a well educated and a peaceful and healthy population was destroyed by liberal ideology.
Bitch slap!
Wow, yoo are having a little self-pity-party….’better go full-tampon instead of the pad, El Jay-bo.
oh wow, Aunt Flo, ‘really go you down theese month…”better switch to tampons, because the pads aren’t working, El Jay-bro.
It’s ok, go change your pad, we’ll wait.
Says the person that has every aspect of human innovation harnessed and regulated by the leftist elite. The time you spent perfectly wording that post could have been spent learning about how you are being controlled.
Are you crying Jay? Do you need a safe space?
Go puff a fat chalupa, senor.
Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.
Professors are not necessarily doers or accomplishers.
Never mind cdw Chrisy, you go and fly your little rocket ship off the the sun! Maybe there’ll be a few spots left for you before you get there. Be sure to pack a lunch, its a one way trip! Bye bye! Get a life and half a brain!
Oh, no. The common-ists have been beating the “anthropogenic global warming” drum as a foil for a government takeover of energy production and distribution. They are the ones politicizimg the discussion.
And once again, that opinion may or may not be true but in any case it has NOTHING to do with this article. I might as well comment on the danger of high fructose corn syrup. Stick to the topic and stay out of the weeds or go to Fox news to post your stupid comments.
Time to change your pad Chris, you’re getting grumpy.
Lol
Bwahahaha, ding ding ding we have a winner! Awesome, senor!
I knew it was smarty skirt, not that there’s anything wrong with that, not!
Leftists like you just love to politicize science when it seems to go your way. What goes around comes around, so sod off, swampy.
They can dish it out but they can’t take it.
Just like a leftist. All for freedom of speech, as long as it’s yours. Eff you lefty. You don’t get to decide what others talk about so just eff off, eh.
my my Chris is a bit slow in our book, of course this effects the discussion on man made climate change, that is the point. Facts once again are pesky things…
Perhaps if he could see the link between the two, he wouldn’t be a totalitarian commie?
Nah, not likely!
Would that make him a “fellow traveler” or just another “useful idiot”?
Exactly. They’re beginning to get burned more and more each time they try to beat down our brush fires!
Why don’t you just buzz off…
Typical commie totalitarian.
“I may not be right but…..SHUT THE EFF UP!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Y’know, Mussolini, not Hitler……
We rule the airwaves now. It’s not three TV stations to decide what will and won’t be said any more, dude. Welcome to the future!
Somewhere in the Black Forest, a tiny handcarved clock is missing it’s little bird named Chris….cuckoo. Cuckoo!
I love that scenario!
You go to Faux News, if you think it’s so great smarty pants, oops, sorry, I mean smarty skirt, which is it anyway? Oh, whichever!
Since liberals have politicized the climate to no end, when news comes out casting further doubt on AGW, liberals are going to hear about it.
You’re damned right, I mean correct!
And so YOUR “intelligent” contribution to the discussion was…?
Yeah, just as I thought.
What is the significance of reduced sunspot activity on conditions here on Earth? How does that affect human circumstances? Is there a relationship between human circumstances, particularly with respect to the effects of reduced sunspot activity and politics? Educate yourself, Chris, before you call others ignorant.
The sun is covered with elemental silicon, a good conductor of electricity. A sun spot is a hole in the surface that blasts energy and of course electricity into space. Science as usual doesn’t know the cause of the sunspots though they can generalize. The problem for the Global Warming Freaks is that an empty Sun, as this article calls it, is radiating less heat which in theory would cause the earth to cool. Fortunately there is an offsetting mechanism called GCR or Galactic Cosmic Radiation. This radiation increases as the sun weakens as spoken of in this article. The GCR increases the cloud cover on the dark side of the earth helping the earth retain heat. (Cosmic Rays can cause saturated air to form tiny water droplets as in a cloud chamber). Even the UN feels that GCR may be one of the main factors in the fluctuation of the Earth’s temperature. BTW ice ages seem to depend on our position in the galactic spiral arm, and not on CO2 content.
And CO2 lags warming rather than leading it. It’s an effect, not a cause.
GCRs cause clouds, clouds cause cooling.
Global warming is more correlated with sunspots than with CO2.
Agreed, Perry and something Chris, above, clearly doesn’t understand–I was trying to help him/her make these basic logical connections.
We come to the truth in our own way. Some of us are dragged kicking and screaming. 🙂
Since the original argument for CO2 and global warming was based on statistics, the sunspot explanation is particularly delightful. The solar physicists explain it fairly well in the article – less solar flux -> more gamma/cosmic radiation -> more high level cloud nuclei -> higher albedo -> cooler temperatures.
Wouldn’t you say liberals wanting to pass laws to lock people up in jail for disagreeing with man made global warming that isn’t politics? When some sick bastard goes on a killing spree they don’t politicize it for every second they can???
Buzzing causes global warming….
Since you don’t like the comments by right-wingers, what would a wrong-winger like yourself? What sort of comment would you like to leave on an article about sun-spot activity?
Maybe “wow, gee whiz”
Or “will this effect my tan”
How about “what can we blame this on that isn’t true, but we could lie anyway”
I eagerly await your reply
Because it was linked on the front page of Drudge. Drudge readers are a very peculiar bunch. They love to congregate in comment sections and reinforce their far right, conspiratorial, ill informed opinions. Each upvote causes them to pat themselves on the back and makes them think they are right. It’s a lot of fun to watch. They say that liberals are dragging the right wing kicking and screaming into the future. If you want to see the actual kicking and screaming, click on ANY Drudge story and scroll down.
Trump 2016!
Let’s Make America Great Again together, concretetundra!
So why are you here, pendeho?
Get stuffed, you fascist trumpet.
We do it to beat the Leftards to the punch. Every time we do(which is not very often), they start complaining that “right-wingers bring politics into every discussion”. It’s as predictable as clockwork.
Why are you left wingers so ignorant of the 1st amendment?
Read the Bill of Rights once in a while………tool
Did you fail to see the part where it states lower sunspot activity results in cooling of the upper atmosphere? This is contrary to the settled seance of AGW?
There are no ‘wingers’ here Chris, so you can drop the false indignation. Anything that has to do with climate (is the Sun’s activity not responsible in large degree, for Earth’s climate…?), is immediately co-opted by the AGW crowd and used as a weapon to bludgeon both the naive and the stated ‘enemy’ (‘climate deniers’…)
No Chris, AGW has ~Everything~ to do with ‘Politics’ by virtue of the fact that the entire concept was Political at birth to begin with…
She deemed the sunspots of a personal nature and deleted them.
you drudgetards are so obsessed over Hilary and Obama, yet you allow them to rule over your? why don’t you do something about it wwith your second amendment rights
Another violent old hippy….
we will vote for trump our only way to see this through.
We outnumber you. You’re super lucky that “drudgetards” are a peaceful people, but keep pushing until we’re not. We’ll go all Return of the Jedi on your Empire.
Why don’t you go rot in hail! Oh, and Fock U and your 2nd amendment rights, libtard, duhhhh!
You seem to be another “drudgetard” to whom you so affectionately refer. Always happy to have one more sane person who recognizes the criminality and destructiveness of Hillary (it’s spelled with two “L”s) and Ohbongo.
Ordinarily I would say the scientific facts would stand at face value and as the fascist left would say, the reason for climate change is settled. But, in this world today’s democrat leftist often believe facts contrary to their talking point, don’t matter.
You do mean ‘democratic leftists’ right?
The identifier is Democrat. And yes most are fascist. Or at the very least, their leaders are.
Nah. They’re fascists, through and through.
The Grifters have only 208 days left in the White House….then they gotta start paying their own freight…and I doubt that moocher-in-law will be shackin’ with them in Hawaii.
this is on the sun so it was not caused by humanity. your lame politics mean nothing to the sun.
your lame opinion, notwithstanding.
<<"my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj29nx
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj29n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsExcellenceGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj29n….,….
I already know a few girls who make $100 per hour…..it has it’s up’ and down’s but it’s a living.
wow an oldie but a goodie
Geez, that’s pretty low.
What, are they fat and ugly?
What difference does it make where they aren’t? It still is Bush’s fault
Guido, you have to be a liberal asyou have NO sense of humor.
Irony is lacking in all primitive tribes of a shame based nature.
Are you sure he don’t have No sense of humor? He just might….
appalachianHeathen you must have been educated in a liberal school. The correct grammar is “he doesn’t” third person singular.
Nah, I’m just a simple one, not like those complicated liberals! Liberalism is a mental disorder ya know?
Like glow bell warming is not caused by humanity?
Sure it is! Only humanity can make a bell, and only humanity can make make glow!! So there ha ha ha…
Obama’s global warming will force them to tax solar energy.
Look at how some states are doing a pilot on taxing mileage to keep the roads fixed.
This stuff is worse than the tax on tea.
FAR worse!
lol
Quite likely.
She would steal Jesus off the cross.
Good one.
Please understand that AGW is not a scientific fact but instead is a political ruse intended to control your life. Think alcohol in gas, shutting coal so as to force building of solar and wind energy production. Establishment politicians and the rich donor class that finance them is making billions on your back.You are now being asked to give your money from “victim” countries that will suffer from AGW. This is a massive con game.
Wow, very clever response there, how you linked the science article about sun stuff to Obama and Hilary. Amazing.
Oh, they’ll somehow link this to being caused by man made global warming.
She was jealous that they outshone her so she decided to have them eliminated. Funny how a guy could shoot himself twice in the head…
Wow! DAIC
I live in East Tennessee and there is a LOT of coal moving on rails. Both east and west on the Norfolk Southern line.
Yeah, but unlike the other two, Hillary is SUPER-HOT!
Can’t wait to gaze into those sexy eyes for the next four years…
Viva la Stupid American voters!
Spotless does not (necessarily) mean lower heat radiation. I have found nothing that says the UV or IR has decreased, or increased. It just says that it is less active (or) less variant.
In the past I have read that solar flares (especially larger flares) cause more damage to our skin and to our atmosphere – therefor – I can only “GUESS” that no flares and fluctuation means less negative reaction to us here on earth. – – – Maybe?
She would if she could.
So far the dimwit has lived up to her deserved reputation.
I just… what…? Why do you Drudge-Drones have to make everything political. In the name of all that is holy and not, this is an article about sunspots. You people are completely obsessed.
Meanwhile 2016 is set to be the hottest year on record…
weees got 300 years of coal
-that is in ONE wonderful mine … goodbye Hillary … we’ll miss the Mau jakets
Pretty hard to predict a variable star.
Especially when state-funded “scientists” are ordered not to even try.
Daily Caller 2016/06/23
Nearly two decades and $108 million worth of “disturbing” data manipulation with “serious and far ranging” effects forced a federal lab to close, a congressman revealed Thursday.
The inorganic section of the U.S. Geological Survey’s (USGS) Energy Geochemistry Laboratory in Lakewood, Colo. manipulated data on a variety of topics – including many related to the environment – from 1996 to 2014. The manipulation was caught in 2008, but continued another six years.
They heard about the Clinton’s SLUSH FUND! They wanted their own Slush Fund…betcha the whole Congress has their own “charity”. Like that person head of the Food Stamps in her city, made a killing for herself with them. If you don’t have a Gruberment Job…you can get in serious trouble for starting your own Slush Funds.
Perhaps Obama can sign an Executive Order forbidding this type of Sun behavior.
beer summit!!
Rescind the Executive Order sealing his records and vet their POTUS finally
Hillary just asked, What difference, at this point, does it make?
Obama has already saved the planet. Global Warming stopped even before he assumed office. We might even be able to blame it on George W. Bush 🙂
No need to worry. Saint bary obama will save the world ! After all, he walked all the way from Hawaii to the mainland to bless us with his presence.
98 degrees here just outside Atlanta. I think its working well.
let me guess, obongo claims he can fix this by further flooding the us with illegals& terrorist muzzies then blaming Americans for’ driving suvs.
Whether the weather be hot,
Or whether the weather be not,
We weather the weather,
Whatever the weather,
Whether we like it or not.
“As a rule, man’s a fool. When it’s hot, he wants it cool. When it’s cool, he wants it hot. Always wanting what is not.”
Either way we must raise taxes immediately.
Yes, that will fix it.
I think that is the first clean limerick I have ever witnessed…
global warming…….just ask algore
Hilarious no info rwnjs think this story has anything to do with our climate change. Jesus you people justparrot whatever the F foxnoose breitbart and drudge tell you. Its pretty sad how easily you people are controlled.
The hypothesis of man made co2 climate change has never and will never be subjected to the scientific method. It depends on money hungry “scientists” to call it a theory, corrupt politicians to call it a policy, gullible cool-aide drinkers to believe it, and the citizens to pay for it.
It’s all a big government power grab using the faux link between CO² and temperature. Then the regulating of CO² emissions.
IF you look at ALL the data, not just a tiny piece you see that there is ZERO correlation:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/04/dr-vincent-gray-on-historical-carbon-dioxide-levels/
Hey warmers: It’s the orange ball in the sky. The one responsibility for both weather and climate. AGW remains a myth. You really have nothing to hang your empirical hat on. And if you say CO2, I’m going to remind you that the real studies show that CO2 actually lags warming rather than leading it. Translation: It’s an effect, not a cause. But you go ahead and listen to that so-called 97 percent (of whom, 95 percent have no training in the field).
Some expert predicted years ago an ICE AGE was returning amidst all the lying liars at the peak of the phony global warming sh it.
Especially one Al Gored who should be in jail for his DAMNING lies that destroyed a lot of business IMO. I read the ICE AGE report and it made sense to me and after that I always believed that is what is COMING.
Algore predicted the seas would rise 250 ft. in the next few years…then he went out and Bought an Oceanfront Mansion costing over $8 Million near Santa Barbara, Ca. Must not have been too worried. Plus Obama Stopped the Oceans RISING 250 ft. remember? Then He and Moo bought an Ocean Front Mansion In Hawaii right be for he got Re-elected. Theirs cost over $30 Million!
Climate change has finally reached the sun. When oh when will we ever learn?
Yeah. There ought to be a law. One law…and 20,000 pages of regulations.
Plus addendum’s and appendices plus a shelf of indexes to find all the stuff.
Dont worry Obama will blame the GOP for this
Our Grubers in DC figured out that our Weather/Climate is connected to MONEY…TAXES…and Regulations. Now they are having a hard time “selling” their “scientific discoveries” to the American Citizen Tax Payers. They should have just listened to their ole Grannies, like we did. Granny always used to say…”Everybody always Complains about the Weather! But Nobody can do anything about it!”
uh-oh…Can the Grubers send me to the Fema Camps for saying that?
Tell it to the ice…
http://www.businessinsider.com/before-and-after-pictures-of-glaciers-melting-2014-5
They said it would happen, and apparently it did. Pollution from fossil fuels finally reached the sun, diluted the amount of available oxygen in the solarsphere, reducing its ability to produce fire. This is the same exact thing that produced the last ice age. Mark my words, if the general weather patterns turn markedly cooler in the next 4-5 months, we have only ourselves to blame 🙂
Lemme guess, climate is impacted somehow too?
What happened to the Super sized Gargantuan Monster El Nino of all time?
As an amateur radio operator for over 45 years, many of us have studied and understand solar activity because our overseas communications depend on the sun and its activity.
There is something called a Maunder Minimum. It has, in the past, brought on mini ice ages.
Also, these idiots that a predicting numerous power grid outages due to massive solar flares are full of it. (No late night radio talk show hosts need to be mentioned….) We have not had any flares in months! Yes, we have had disruptions due to solar winds. But the flares themselves have died away. So the scare tactic/clickbait in this article isn’t valid.
Actually we’re due for a real ice age, not just a Maunder Minimum type. The present interglacial period is the longest by far in the past ten million years or so.
Golly, could the sun just possibly have a greater impact on global climate than humanity? Don’t expect any rational thought from AGW luddites.
So … all said our star has a profound effect on the weather of all the planets in our solar system. Is that why we call it our “solar system?” Question for you all…. Of Topic … The jet exhaust trails over the last 15 years have visually changed. They persist (do not evaporate) and during the day the sky fills with their expanded “clouds”. We can have a weather forecast of clear skys and by afternoon the sky is anything but clear. Why is it never mentioned the effect on climate this must be making all over the world??
It probably does have some (albeit, small, in comparison to the sun) effect on the environment. Which is a bit ironic considering all the elites of the world flying in their private jets to climate change seminars and lecturing us to give up our own luxuries.
And guns, lest they shoot us dead!
funny, they don’t see it that way…
I, along with others who are experts in solar activity, believe the sun is going nova. The whole “global warming”/climate change fiasco is a cover-up for a dying sun. With the sun going nova, more harmful ultra-violets are going to bombard the Earth. Someone has suggested that the “artificial clouds” created by the jets are to “reflect” ultra-violets away from our surface.
Chem-Trails?
Call them what you will. I really don’t believe they are carrying harmful chemicals, but reflector particles to ward off harmful ultra-violets. Question: Have you ever seen so many cases of skin cancer in your lifetime???
SPF – 30?
If the sun is going nova, it will expand and gobble up the earth before it explodes. There would be nothing we could do to prevent or mitigate that outcome. Jet emissions, in that context, would be irrelevant.
yeah, but it takes millions of years….
In the meantime…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/916d4d343e651f2cdd13ec3e1c01f9837ac6fa0204b5f5764f894100dd9bdd95.jpg
Govt funded, I presume – – –
I ate a Super Star from Carl’s Junior…it was good until it went Super Nova…
It’s obvious this is caused by Earth’s climate change.
Of course, it’s all due to carbon emissions in America.
And a bunch of SUVs. The big luxury ones. Consuming the Sun’s energy…on the Sun’s surface! There also needs to be a ban on corporate Jets. Except for Hillary. She needs to give a speech there. A last one.
Since when do brooms emit CO2? only methane, but it’s not from the broom
NewEnglandPatriot,
The hypothesis of man made co2 climate change has never and will never be subjected to the scientific method. It depends on money hungry “scientists” to call it a theory, corrupt politicians to call it a policy, gullible cool-aide drinkers to believe it, and the citizens to pay for it.
Wait – they forgot to mention that this low activity is a result of global warming, err, or is it making global warming worse, err, or is it what caused Brexit to succeed?
You guys getting this yet? The Sun is on some kind of WTF? activity loop. Whereas before the Earth could get by on large Green house emissions, now we can’t. We need to in all haste change what we are doing in order to mitigate what the Sun might do and is doing to global temperatures. This temperature spike is happening in our solar system.
Short of terraforming you’re not going to be able to counteract the effect solar activity has on our climate. Good luck with that.
Agree, Global warming, climate change is being sold to the peons as a problem we have control on, but must act soon. The reality is this is the Sun, and what was once a logical reason to reduce Green House gasses etc is turning into something else. A dire emergency to reduce anything in our atmosphere that will magnify the problems that our Sun may send our way.
Sun cycles 24-26 bring a new grand minimum…it will be getting colder for the next 20-30 years. Less sunspots more cosmic rays and clouds that cools off the planet.
The Sun is just being racist.
Maunder Minimum, here we come.
Livingston and Penn were right.
Precisely. The principle of “Occam’s razor” at play.
The demonrats could figure out how to tax us for solar radiation, they would.
Or water vapor.
Or they’ll say we have to reduce the population so that there will be more rays of sun per ‘elite’.
Ok. They need to take some for the team. Start with reducing the population of elites.
Yes…send them back to their hot bowls of primordial soup.
Every single day now…We are learning how big a RACKET Gruberment IS. Must be nice. The Tax Payers are fewer and fewer today, and getting soaked with all the Multi Millions of Illegals Obama brings into our country, who hop on his O-Gravy Train. Nearly a Third of our Citizens 95 Million people, are permanently OUT of WORK…QUIT Looking…and never counted among the “Unemployment Numbers!” So the Gov. numbers are made up, kinda like AGW.
No effects on global whastever though. The Warmer Cabal treats solar input as a constant. The sun could go out tomorrow and models would still predict warming and the cabalists would want you to send them all your money.
EU will be in need of massive funding
whether the sun rises tomorrow or not, the EU will be in need of massive funding…
calamity grifters all…
Sun?
What sun?
The pendulum has merely swung and now it’s time to corner the carbon DEBIT market due to anthropogenic global cooling.
LOL
Come to Phoenix. I’ll show you Sun and heat. Grand Minimum sounds like a great idea.
Notice that the author completely ignores the fact that cosmic rays stimulate cloud formation by ionizing particles making them more attractive to water vapor. More rays equals more clouds equals cooler Earth.
all part of the ‘quiet sun – cooler Earth’ totality, we could see a Maunder Minimum and severe cooling right as far as another Little Ice Age… or not
now look what global warming has done!
So that’s why some of my tomaties are slow in blossoming.. it wasnt the chemtrails killing the pollinators after all. 8-
Henny Penny and Chicken Little are a bit flummoxed.
Only one thing to do drill baby drill…
And we are beginning to enter the minimum phase of a 206 year supercycle that will DROP temperatures worldwide, with the minimum temperatures in about 2030. Search GRAND MINIMUM and get the scary truth about what is going to happen to our climate.
What does ol Al, Ol hillarries “Shame an snuff America partner” have to say about this ………and the other climate scare mongers? Should we burn more coal to heat the world back up to a perfect 98.6?
Oh no, the sun’s going out! Now they will try to tax us for global warming and cooling at the same time.
Liberal nirvana!
sun comes up…tax ’em…sun goes down…tax ’em again…
Obama will blame this on “Global Warming.”
The sun operates on a 360 year cycle with three phases: regulation oscillations, followed by a Grand Solar Maximum, followed by a Grand Solar Minimum. The last time there was a Grand Minimum was the Little Ice Age. The present phase began in 2009 with a new Grand Minimum now underway. Prepare for decades of colder winters reaching a bottom around 2040. Along the way there will be increasing fuel shortages, food scarcity, disease and loss of life. Enjoy the warmth while you can. No amount of pithy CO2 increase will change this inevitability.
http://www.windpowerfraud.com
http://www.aconvenientfabrication.com
Nah, that’s bull shit. The sun is 33 miles in diameter and spirals around the north pole at an altitude of no higher than a few hundred miles. In the Summer, it’s making smaller, slower loops, but will gradually expand and speed up until it reaches the furthest distance from the North Pole—the Winter solstice.
The sun is 33 miles in diameter and spirals around the north pole every 24 hours.
I’m sure Al Gore will need a solar tax to keep this from happening again in the future.
C02 now over 400ppm and Global temperature going down. Earth to Houston, I think we have a problem.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. The first five months of 2016 are the hottest in the temperature record by the widest differential ever recorded.
You must be looking at the infamous Tamperature Records.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one.
Obviously this is due to Anthropogenic Sunspot Depletion brought about by all the solar power installations that Obama’s cronies have been setting up to plunder taxpayers.
Somehow, the loony left will try to capitalize on this. Perhaps a solar weakness tax?
We need a global tax rate of 90% before it’s too late!
No worries Obama, the messiah that he is will sign an executive order next week restoring sun spots.
Dalton, meet Maunder. Maunder, Dalton. I’d like you both to take a look at these AGW ‘computer models’.
I’m certain you have never been near a building or institution where climate modelling is successfully executed. If you knew the tiniest bit of information you’d know that computer models refer to hardware such as Dell, HP, etc. Last time I checked the current excess energy in our climate system falls within the 95% confidence interval of the range predicted by current modelling simulations. Obviously you’ll not care, because you don’t understand the models.
I’m certain no one has ever been near a building or institution where climate modelling is successfully executed, because the climate has never been modelled successfully.
If your research was as thorough as you imply, you should be turning up different results. Have any help/links from a scientist or scientifically literate person who knows what they’re doing?
. . . yet not a word about “climate” or “weather” in the whole article. A serious oversight for an article in Climate Depot.
We are peaked now at the warm part of the warm cycle of the 100,000 year Ice age cycles, Its a time when the weather hovers and changes more dramatically in our comfort zone, nothing to worry about except that Canada, Russia and and everything else above the 49th parallel is under a couple of thousands of feet of ice in a mere fifty thousand years from now. These are the good times folks, this report from one of the nations top notch geologists. Read the book “On the Trail of the Ice Age floods” by Bruce Bjournstad. Its fascinating and makes for Great vacation planning! That’s the only way to round out what your imagination cannot stretch itself around. See it with your eyes. tour it from Missoula Montana following the Columbia river and its surrounding flats and canyons down into Oregons wine country in the willamete vally and onto the mighty Pacific. You will know and believe. All else is politics for the minions and idiots. I know thats a bit rough on some people but really, read the factual accounting of this planets ongoing records of climate change and please, turn GORE off when he gets on his global warming rants, they are abusesof reality for abuse of your pocketbooks. Its possible we will survive because of coal and coal alone. A slight possibility but still a real possibility.. Open your eyes, see the real thing, rocks dont lie! Follow the Columbia river from Missoula Montana to the Pacific Ocean for a great family journey.
Courtesy of Great Flood Wines, inc, @ Great Flood Wines dot com, (currently in the shop for design changes).
Winesdotcomm represented soon…… , floods, find the wines, learn the truth!
Complete junk science and nonsense. First, we’re in an interglacial of the current ice-age. Second, the natural warming cycle peaked about 8 ka back and the Earth is in a natural axial nutation cooling orbital phase. d. Third, the planet is warming at unprecedented rates (30x natural) due to human induced CO₂ into the atmosphere. Fourth, we pay some very smart people to observe and research this phenomena.
“Smart” does not mean “correct”. AGW predictions show this very clearly.
30x natural, compared to what?
The present warming trend started over one hundred years before any significant human CO2 output. And as a “warming trend” it is a paltry one degree C per century. The planet has been much warmer than this many times in the past; warm periods are always more stable and more conducive to the proliferation of life and civilization.
They don’t say that they are correct but they do have the best explanation for the evidence. If they weren’t there’d be others publishing better unfalsifiable explanations and I’m sure there’ll be a few tweaks here and there but not the central theme. AGW predictions have all proven to be accurate … care to share which one/one that the theory predicted that didn’t materialize? What do you think 30x natural means … that is as clear as it can be to a scientist when discussing current extant and climate. It usually refers to the current ice-age. Your warming trend is pure vacuity and any glimpse at the ice core data will show you how inaccurate your statement is. The planet is in a natural cooling cycle so the current warming is unnatural. Your last sentence is a non sequitur and basically meaningless.
Somehow it’s either the fault of Trump or conservatives.
Someone forgot to pay the electric bill !
It would be a good time to send some astronauts to the sun.
if Britain can brexit we can UNxit no money for countries that hate us
10000 ^^^^^^^^
If the Sun is a Nuclear furnace like the Main Stream Scientific Community tries to tell us… why does it weigh 1000 X less that what would be necessary for it to function ?
How can Sun spots that are on or near the surface of the Sun be Millions of degrees cooler that what can be measured a million miles away from the surface ?
How can the surface be 5000 degrees and 10 million degrees many miles away from the surface ?
Here’s one for you….
A Shocker: Solar Wind Provokes Lightning on Earth | Space News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wOTlKmeoA
6 more months of the guy putting his thumb in our eye.
That fifteen year pause in sunspots is notable.
This may come as a shock to the green nicks but .. the top of the planet is still frozen and its summer.
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_v3/ims_gif/ARCHIVE/NHem/2016/ims2016176.gif
True but it’s the lowest extent and volume in the record. So what’s your point?
Bull Cr ap
You can take a peek right now at the live results: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
They clearly show you’re FOS with the Arctic extent being the lowest in the record and more than two standard deviations below 1981-2010 mean.
Pure fabrication
You can tell from the idiotic comments this was linked to on Drudge
Summary of “climate change” in a nutshell:
“Show us the money! Show us the money! Shooooow us the money!”
climate change ==
“Let’s scare the living hell out of everyone and gain power, influence and money while pretending to do something about it! First we’ll start with catastrophic predictions in the short term, when those fail utterly we’ll push them back to the year 2100! All Hail Us! Savoirs of the Planet! “
You’re either a pernicious fool or a perfidious charlatan. Pick one.
This is very interesting. Look into the mounder* minimum (mounder is spelled wrong) It suggests that the lack of activity on the sun correlates with global cooling (only speculation) but this lack of activity will solve or at least shed light on the mounder minimum. If you have a reflector scope get a solar filter and you can see the spots for yourself, you walk away with an absolute feeling of something waaaay bigger than yourself
lol drudge links a science story and here comes the politics.
Science has become so dirtied and discredited because of the left that most intelligent people are readily going to point that fact out every time they get the chance.
The new priesthood of a post modern world. Might as well be consulting the astrologers 5000 years ago in Mesopotamia.
Everyone needs to read or view John Casey’s work
” Dark Winter”
and don’t give away your longdrawers
This will be known as the Landscheidt minimum. We are watching his prediction unfold before our eyes.
We’re very political, aren’t we? ice age a’comin! Bundle up!
I’m not 100% sure on the science here but we know that somehow evil white men have done some kind of sh!t to the Sun.
I think they’re trying to take down Farrakhan’s Mothership.
No where does this article speak to the planetary effects (earth is of interest to me) of these solar minimums. Longer winters? Cooler summers? Wetter? Drier? Crop effects? Poor reporting.
This is caused by global warming – Al Gore said so.
This article will only energize the “deniers” and, therefore, the writer should be cast into Hell. Climate change is caused by human activities. The Sun isn’t even on our planet.
This is all because of Global Warming and the excessive use of windmills. The Windmills cool the sun and their vibrations cause earthquakes. When will you people listen??
tell ya what…reading through the comments here makes me want to invite everybody over for a party…
And Obama blames it on global warming and the GOP
Puerile vacuity.
Monty Python
Perhaps. But Cleese and co. at least grasp climate science and speak rather eruditely on the topic. pays to go to good schools and universities even if they didn’t follow a science career.
Now for something entirely different; I would be happy to agree with them, but they are wrong.
Nope. 200 years of physics would need to be overturned if that were true.
Once again, wrong. Science has admitted to the false data. Signing off.
“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little.
Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.” (Psalms 2:1-12)
Another “maunder minimum” coming along with global cooling. Perhaps this one will last more than 70 years. It is a good thing we heated things up otherwise this would be a catastrophe. Thank your industrial revolution kids.
More proof of global warming…lol
This is bad news for the global warming crowd. If the Earth gets noticeably cooler over the next few years, then how can they keep screaming that mankind is overheating the planet? Of course, they can lie about it like they’ve been doing since the beginning of this AGW nonsense.
They will simply pull out and recycle all the ‘New Ice Age’ coming crap from the late 60’s.
If they do that then they may get it right this time, but it won’t be due to anything that humanity is doing.
Oh my gosh! We are all doomed. It is global warming! or Global cooling! or Climate change! Or whatever the daily panic catastrophe from the demoncRAT liars is. We are all finished if we don’t vote demoncRAT. right? LOL Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Hey demoncRAT liars. We get it now. We will NEVER listen to you or the state press again. Get used to it. You better arm up too. Like we are. We are not afraid of you anymore. And We are not afraid to fight like you are.
Blame the Republicans. Signed,,The Great Right Wing Conspiriicy
this couldn’t be correct? it goes against Obunghole and his minions narrative of global man made warming, you know the theory that caught weather scientists falsifying data, making up numbers, and changing climate figures going back 100 years to suit their fraudulent narrative
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. I’m sure you’ll demonstrate that I’m incorrect and cite the peer-reviewed science that you gleaned those pearls of wisdom from, right?
http://realclimatescience.com/2016/07/global-temperatures-are-mostly-fake/
Only an uneducated m0r0n who is obviously neither a scientist nor scientifically literate would be fooled by the fossil fuel shill Tony Heller (realclimatescience) who has never researched nor published one article about climate science using its given name or its pseudonym Steven Goddard. Heller/Goddard has had to issue several written apologies to NASA, NSIDC and NOAA for his pseudo-climate science alleging they were wrong over the years to avoid libel suits as he didn’t have the evidence to support his denier claptrap. The classic was he published an article titled “Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered” in The Register on 8/15/2008. Goddard claimed that the NSIDC plot of the extent of Arctic Sea Ice was wrong. However, on 8/25, Goddard retracted his claim, saying that “… it is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year – just as NSIDC had stated.” Anthony Watts May 17, 2016 at 10:10 am “Goddard has no presence here after he failed to admit to CO2 freezing out of air blunder a few years back.”
they don’t want to admit the sun has effects on Earth’s weather. Just like Muslims don’t have an affect on Gay gun sales. Well everyone’s gun sales for that matter
Obviously caused by global warming.
Let me guess, this was caused by Global Warming cause by Humans.
It doesn’t matter. Democrats think man-made CO2 creates heat.
Nope. They understand thermodynamics and how blocking or making the path for outgoing IR longer causes the surface of the Earth to warm as our planet stays in energy equilibrium with space.
No, they don’t understand that. Any legitimate thermodynamic study of climate would seek to understand the primary source first instead of wasting time looking at secondary effects.
You clearly don’t understand the Earth’s energy balance. I suggest you visit NASA or NOAA websites that have very good lay person explanations. Hint: The moon’s surface temperature doesn’t behave the same as the Earth yet for all intents and purposes both are the same distance from the sun.
The moon has the albedo of an ice cap, for one. It has month-long day and night cycles as well.
But I’m sure what you’re”hinting” at is the moon’s lack of atmosphere, implying this is why Lunar surface temps differ from that of earth, ergo, climate scientists are totally legitimate in their study of earth’s atmosphere as it relates to climate.
First, yes the study of earth’s atmosphere as it relates to climate is legitimate. My point is that, since it is by definition a secondary effect, all the data, knowledge, and understanding of it is worthless without an understanding and accounting of the Primary driver of climate, the Sun.
Back to the moon. It has vast surface temp swings from day to night. This is partly because of the two-week long day, followed by two weeks of night. It is also because, as you hinted, there is no significant atmosphere.
But a Lunar atmosphere would serve to regulate the vast temp changes, by acting as an insulator and causing dispersion. In other words, your “hint” demonstrates that atmospheric effects are dampeners, regulators, of extreme shifts that would be caused by the Primary. This is in direct opposition to the position of AGW proponents’ claims that atmospheric effects will be the cause of devastating shifts.
tl;dr: wrong argument bro
Clearly you have little grasp of AGW theory and the role of the atmosphere. Pretending atmospheric and climate scientists haven’t a grasp of the science is just crass ignorance on your part.
What happened to runaway global warming?
Global warming scientists said winter storms would be a thing of the past and kids won’t ever see snow again.
What about all those predictions that arctic ice would already be all melted and permanently gone?
What happened to the dozens of hurricanes they said would hit the US coastlines every season?
What happened to all the predictions of accelerated rising sea levels?
What happened to all the predictions of increased tornadoes, droughts, floods, disease, starvation, locusts….?
Every prediction has been proven wrong.
Is there anything that would invalidate their hypothesis?
Do you always segue off-topic when schooled or lose a point?
You have a long list of red herrings and straw man fallacies – a great indicator that the writer is a bull$h!tter! An informed person with integrity would state when prediction was made, by whom, and provide the evidence that it failed. So far everything I have reviewed has been coming in worse than predicted. What did the first IPCC report predict … how well has it fared? If you know the Q and A then it will be self-evident to you that you’re FOS.
You can’t respond. Just like all global warming believers. Gotcha! You can only make personal attacks. I’ve played this game with you people many times. I have quotes, sources and you’ll just change the subject, never admitting you’re wrong.
Name something, anything that would invalidate the hypothesis.
I responded fully … what are you struggling with?
Responded with personal attacks, not refuting anything.
Cupcake those were not personal attacks. You segued off-topic and introduced the straw man and red herrings. Am I supposed to pretend that didn’t happen?
It’s really sad so many people like you are so uninformed and brainwashed. They’ve been doing this since the early 1900s, switching between global cooling and global warming every 30-40, using the same language and scare tactics. The solutions are all the same: bigger govt, more taxes, less freedom. You should study history — of politics, not science.
Cupcake you are making up stories again. As to uninformed … it is evident that you have little science knowledge at middle school level. OMG, not this ancient trope again. It was Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster, who advocated calling it “climate change” because it seemed less threatening. And the climate has indeed been changing over time, but not over the last few thousands of years, and never near as fast. And while CO₂ may have been a following indicator in the past, it is the leading cause at this time, as has been understood by atmospheric physicists for decades. I’ll ignore your opinion about taxes as it is not germane to the science.
In about 20 yrs, liberals will change back to global cooling and scare us with the coming Ice Age. It’s the sun, and solar cycles, not man-made CO2.
Science has no ideology. What bothers me more about the real morons who feed you this tripe is that we are launching ourselves into a new planet equilibrium that is unfriendly to our (human) and extant existence. We are in an ice-age. Current warming has nothing to do with sun or solar cycles … if that were true the planet would be in a long-term cooling trend thanks to the current axial nutation forcings and slightly cooling sun. You’re quite good at making up fairy tales. Unfortunately for you we know it’s the external forcing of human-induced CO₂ that’s causing teh unprecedented warming.
We’re in an inter-glacial period. The sudden and temporary emergence from Ice Ages has nothing to do with CO2 or man-made CO2.
Nope … your science is awful. We are in an ice-age, period. We’re either in an interglacial or a glacial. Climate has been studied for two centuries. The full theory of anthropogenic global warming was first formed in 1896. In the past 800k years or so orbital forcing factors (mostly axial nutation) would create shifts in temperature which would be greatly amplified by CO₂ being sequestered (cooling) or released (warming). CO₂ was the feedback on top of nutation, so the both of them were the major forcing factor. Atmospheric CO₂ content is close to 0.041%, a miniscule swing of ±0.01% during the past 800k years with orbital forcing has taken the Earth in and out of glacial periods.
We’re in an ice age? You can believe whatever you want to believe. It’s called summer.
It is winter in the SH, so what’s your point? No belief required … you just need to to a little more reading and pay attention in science class when you get to HS.
This is where you warmists ALWAYS bail:
1) identify something, anything that invalidates their hypothesis (global cooling or no climate change?)
2) what caused all the periods of cooling or lack or warming while CO2 was increasing? (you can’t because it invalidates the hypothesis that CO2 is the main driver of temps.)
I have more, but know it’s a waste of time with you people.
Well glad to know you have more because so far you’re produced nothing but gibberish. I can’t answer (1) because you keep this hypothesis untitled so who knows what you’re rambling on about except you, perhaps? (2) makes no sense at all unless you don’t understand how seasons come and go and that we have two hemispheres, and that there is a dynamic weather system. Maybe your science is so poor you don’t know how to express yourself. The current warming is entirely driven by the external forcing of human-induced CO₂. I’m not sure you will be able to digest this but try Gillett et al (DOI: 10.1029/2011GL050226) who show the human attribution of the warming trend to be 102% of observed warming from 1851 to 2010 and 113% of the observed warming from 1951 to 2000 and 1961 to 2010 (averaged together) .Take a very close look at Figure 1 which in (a) shows all forcings, (b) natural forcing only (declining trend i.e. cooling), (c) GHGs only and (d) aerosols only (also declining i.e. cooling).
The original hypothesis said rising CO2 will warm the polar regions.
———–
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of global warming.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of climate change.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of weather.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of extreme weather.
Now they say CO2 is the biggest, imminent threat to life on the planet.
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
The original hypothesis said rising CO2 will warm the polar regions.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of global warming.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of climate change.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of weather.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of extreme weather.
Now they say CO2 is the biggest, imminent threat to life on the planet.
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
Your hypothesis.
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
The original hypothesis said rising CO2 will warm the polar regions.
How can you not know that? You just repeat what you’re told.
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name? Scroll up and check for the name of the hypothesis I supposedly proposed/used. If you can’t find it, i know you won’t, then you’re just been playing charades … but I’m game.
CO2 cause global warming? Can’t respond?
You’re evading everything. You’re losing big time. What do you mean by denier?
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name? Denier is a person who gainsays science.
Your hypothesis, you know the one where CO2 causes global warming? Cat got your tongue? Not capable of independent thought?
Making up stuff is not going to fly. What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
CO2 causes global warming? Who’s the denier? You’re making warmists look really small.
I’ve done this before and know you can’t answer. It’s why AGW scientists never want to answer direct questions.
If it was true, scientists would present their case to world for scrutiny and everyone would believe it. When people hear opposing viewpoints, most people immediately disbelieve the nonsense. The data doesn’t exist.
What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name? Spell out the hypothesis that I have stated. You can scroll through all our comments and then either point to what I have missed or acquiesce and move on as you’re unable to tell me or anyone else what hypothesis I’m supposed to be answering.
CO2 causes global warming. Ever hear of it?
Nope. Try again!
Everybody reading these comments can see you’re afraid to answer. Are you a liberal college professor or student?
Nope what comes across very clearly is you have an inability to express what you want to discuss. Puerile projection is so passé.
But evidence that challenges the prevailing theory bores Kate Marvel, who brushes it off by declaring: “No serious scientist truly believes that the slowdown in surface warming invalidates greenhouse physics.”
This is utterly superficial. The basic physics of the greenhouse effect are not the issue here. At issue is a whole series of more complex questions: whether the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide is mostly attributable to human beings, whether that increase produces a large enough greenhouse effect to warm the planet, and whether any effect from carbon dioxide (which is actually a very weak greenhouse gas) might be offset by the enormous number of other factors in an extremely complex system. So to cite basic physics—a common trope of the warmists—is a glib and irrelevant answer.
Marvel goes on to assert that the pause in warming can be explained by “a massive increase in ocean heat content.” Well, all right, I suppose this is a plausible theory. But it is also a very new one—and only one of 52 different theories offered to explain the hiatus.
Very weak deflection. Where ever you sourced that from you were duped. What hypothesis … you remain coy … is there a reason you can’t share the name?
Your hypothesis. It sounds like you’re evading because you know you can’t respond.
Do you even know you own hypothesis? I suppose it’s too easy to refute since you’re not answering.
Most recent warming occurred in the first half of the 20th century followed by cooling for about 30 yrs (which triggered the switch to the coming Ice Age in the early 70s) and then some warming beginning in the mid 70s. Of course they changed the historical temps to erase the cooling.
That comment is pure bull$h!t!
You’re uninformed. Did you not know they changed the historical data to create the appearance of global warming?
It wasn’t just changed, it wasn’t done in secret, it is in the public domain with full methodology and reasons. If you think it was nefarious you’d better start assembling your research to rebut what was done. You probably haven’t seen the homogenization plotted against raw data … if you had you’d see that raw has a steeper warming trend. So what’s your point? Other than 1024 – to current showing that warming has probably been underestimated.
The first time was all secret. When it was discovered, they first changed it back without explanation. They also recalibrated many of the surface thermometers in the early 2000s to create the appearance of global warming. Mann wiped out the Medieval warming period and the little ice age to create the appearance of global warming. Did you not know of such things?
Still can’t answer any questions. What would invalidate your hypothesis? (Still too afraid to state one?) (ans. Hint. nothing. CO2 causes everything.)What caused all the historical periods of cooling or lack of warming while CO2 was rising? (hint, it’s not CO2!)
The big difference between you and me is that you only know one side, your side. It’s like you never heard any opposing viewpoints or the science behind it. We skeptics know all sides. You’re gullible, lack curiosity and don’t really care about the truth. Everything you’ve said, we’ve heard it before.
You still can’t answer those two:
What would invalidate the hypothesis (even yours)?
How to explain the periods (many decades) of cooling or lack or warming while CO2 was rising?
You are not a skeptic … you are a science denier. A skeptic understands the science whereas you’re clueless. BTW: true skeptics (scientists) have had 60 years or more to produce an alternate model and/or hypothesis to explain the unprecedented warming. Nothing has appeared in the peer-reviewed publications yet that was unfalsifiable. Your last question is not valid until you can show the data that has many decades of cooling. Your first one is still not clear … could you give the name of the hypothesis you want to discuss? Seems like you just ignored the excellent science paper I cited for you which would have answered your questions.
I think you’re ignorant. I think you people placed all your eggs into one basket (CO2) and are now paying the price trying to hold on to a discredited hypothesis.
You deflect again, why? Can’t find the decades of warming or what? Still can’t name the hypothesis you inconsistently but repetitively prattle on about. This is ignorance on steroids and I quote you:
Do you believe in the hockey stick graph by Michael Mann?
To repeat:
“No serious scientist truly believes that the slowdown in surface warming invalidates greenhouse physics.”
This is utterly superficial. The basic physics of the greenhouse effect are not the issue here. At issue is a whole series of more complex questions: whether the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide is mostly attributable to human beings, whether that increase produces a large enough greenhouse effect to warm the planet, and whether any effect from carbon dioxide (which is actually a very weak greenhouse gas) might be offset by the enormous number of other factors in an extremely complex system. So to cite basic physics—a common trope of the warmists—is a glib and irrelevant answer.
I already gave you the published peer-reviewed science that answered that posit … why are you repeating yourself and not reading the science?
When you use the term ‘denier,’ what do you mean?
You deny or gainsay what is explained by science from ignorance as you have neither education or knowledge..
That’s a child’s answer. Deny what science?
You own it, embrace it.
Why won’t you answer?
1. What would invalidate your hypothesis?
2. What explains all the historical periods of cooling or lack or warming when CO2 was rising?
——-
I’ve done this before with you people and know you people never answer. Never. You can’t, because it exposes all the flaws inn the hypothesis and your thinking.
You got to tell me what hypothesis. I’ve been waiting patiently for you to name the hypothesis but for some strange reason you are unable to say whether it is the Milankovitch hypothesis or gravity according to string theory or Clausius-Clapeyron hypothesis etc.
What would invalidate your global warming hypothesis? You know the one that says CO2 causes global warming?
I’ve done this before and know you’re unable and unwilling to answer and eventually you’ll just go away before you make a larger fool of yourself.
Still waiting. If CO2 causes global warming, but global temps fall or don’t rise with more CO2, doesn’t that invalidate it?
Did you hear about the 18 yrs and 9 months with no warming? It was called the hiatus and AGW scientists offered dozens of explanations, one being aerosols, but they realized it invalidated their hypothesis, so they just changed the historical temps instead, and viola!, global warming was back!
You got to tell me what hypothesis? I’ve been waiting patiently for you to name the hypothesis but for some strange reason you are unable to do so.
Read history. It repeats. It’s full of stories like this:
“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer, and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.” — from an Associated Press report published in The Washington Post on Nov. 2, 1922.
Where was that reported from in the Arctic ocean? You need to be specific as there was no way for the whole Arctic ocean to be incorporated in that statement as humans didn’t have the technology or observation posts.
Here’s just one: “Within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.”
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 20 March 2000
I hate to share this with you but that’s not a climate science prediction but someone’s opinion which is meaningless. Predictions will be found in published peer-reviewed science journals.
The peer-review proves for anything related to global warming has been corrupted. It’s much like Rachel Carson where it was a circular process with her friends and colleagues reviewing each other’s work.
Absolute nonsense. It is quite obvious you are neither a scientist nor scientifically literate but rather obnoxiously nescient. Climate science is the only doubly peer-reviewed science thanks to the IPCC.
The original hypothesis said rising CO2 will warm the polar regions.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of global warming.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of climate change.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of weather.
Then they said CO2 is the main driver of extreme weather.
Now they say CO2 is the biggest, imminent threat to life on the planet.
That makes absolutely no sense. Can you give your source?
Challenge: name something, anything that invalidates the hypothesis.
I haven’t a clue of what you’re trying to express … you have written a load of gibberish. If you’re trying to regurgitate a theory or hypothesis then look it up and reference it and ask your question or pose your posit. Alternatively, is this some hypothesis you’re trying to formulate? If so I haven’t a clue what you’re trying to articulate … it’s a meaningless word salad.
The entire hypothesis is bogus. Since all their predictions have proven wrong, now they say global warming causes everything.
Name something, anything that will invalidate the hypothesis. Higher temps, colder temps, more storms, less storms, … anything?
What hypothesis? Why are you coy … they have titles .. I can’t guess which hypothesis you’re trying to articulate if you don’t spit it out. For example, the Attention Schema Theory (AST), developed over the past five years, suggests that consciousness arises as a solution to one of the most fundamental problems facing any nervous system: Too much information constantly flows in to be fully processed. The brain evolved increasingly sophisticated mechanisms for deeply processing a few select signals at the expense of others, and in the AST, consciousness is the ultimate result of that evolutionary sequence. If the theory is right—and that has yet to be determined—then consciousness evolved gradually over the past half billion years and is present in a range of vertebrate species.
I been studying this since the late 90s. Yes I know all about the absorption properties of CO2 and albedo infrared….
It’s a political issue, not scientific.
If your research was as thorough as you imply, you should be turning up different results. Have any help/links from a scientist or scientifically literate person who knows what they’re doing?
Unprecedented !!!! I am anxious for the Obama crowd to go so I never need to hear that word again.
Warming at 30x natural is unprecedented. Just because you don’t like the language it won’t make that fact disappear.
You do know that the cooling we have experience over the last 16 years corresponds statistically much closer to sun activity than with CO2 emissions right?
Your 2nd grade science teacher was right, the Sun warms the Earth.
4th grade science: when the Earth warms the hydraulic cycle incorporates more moisture to the atmosphere making more rain, reducing desertification, increasing plants, crops and habitat.
6th grade science: CO2 in the atmosphere is part of the great carbon recycling machine that is Earth.
8th grade science: Scientific method. in conducting an experiment or explaining a phenomenon, testing is critical. When a model is based on a hypotheses and it doesn’t work, either the hypotheses is wrong or the theory it is based on is wrong.
9th grade physics: Gasses, which do not posses the surface tension, may cannot retain heat within themselves. Water as gas clouds have special properties see 4th grade science.
10 grade biology: More CO2 along with H2O creates a special organic chemical soup that together with micro organisms and eventually plants leads to regeneration of soft fertile soils on the surface to further promote the phenomenon unique in our solar system known as advanced life.
I would keep going, but it seems you couldn’t get past the 4th grade.
You have a lot of anecdotal stories about your schooling which is a diversion from the topic. Can you stay on topic about unprecedented? And then tackle:
Care to share the peer-reviewed published science?
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fslate%2Fblogs%2Fbad_astronomy%2F2013%2F03%2F12%2Fmarcott_graph.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fbad_astronomy%2F2013%2F03%2F13%2Fglobal_warming_new_study_shows_warming_is_faster_than_it_has_been_in_11.html&docid=AlI35dzLaKuA1M&tbnid=EloCHx6MEAofwM%3A&w=568&h=400&bih=620&biw=1366&ved=0ahUKEwi26NPMoMbNAhVFeCYKHW9YAt0QMwhhKDkwOQ&iact=mrc&uact=8
That doesn’t show your assertion the cooling we have experience over the last 16 years. Have another citation/reference? Your graph shows the current unprecedented warming but as you don’t cite your source I don’t believe that is a global reconstruction, just the NH which would be incomplete without the SH.
Hmm, another comment thread on a scientific, technical article littered with posts from idiots who can’t find anything else to discuss other than their stupid political leanings. This just goes to show how little education most people have. Mark Twain once quipped: “It is far better to remain silent and thought a fool then to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.” Clearly none of these posters has read Mark Twain either, let alone studied the intricate cycles of our sun. Typical.
Scientific research is many times funded by citizen stakeholders who care to have a say in the matter from time-to-time.
To paraphrase; “Shut up peasants.”
No, it shows we know something about politics and history. Some of the public doesn’t know the sun comes up in the east and sets in the west. Everyone knows the sun revolves around the earth. So stick it where the sun don’t shine.
I’m waiting for your on topic comment…….crickets…..
This is not an American Literature article is it?
Twain also said “Lies, damned lies, and statistics” which the IPCC apparently made into its motto.
Even the weather services are already predicting a cold winter coming up for much of the U.S. Get ready for a doozy, especially in places like the Midwest and Appalachians. Prolonged below zero temps are coming; say goodbye to your crepe myrtle and photinia.
It’s better to have sub zero temps for 90 days than to suffer through south Florida broilers for close to 187 days.
If you live in Central Fla. it can be pretty uncomfortable….
Not so much on either coast !
My friend’s ask as to why I want to retire in Florida. They say that it is too hot. Yet I can pull up the temperature on my phone and show them that it is 92° here right now with 72% humidity but only 89° in Florida with 60% humidity. Yet it was just snowing here 4 weeks ago.
The winters are long and brutal. Your nose literally seals shut from the sub zero temps and it feels as if someone is whipping you in the face as soon as you walk out the door.
Northern states should be deemed unfit for human occupancy from December to April.
I wish that we could hibernate.
I refer to the nose sealing shut as “booger-freezing-cold” and experiencing should be on everyone’s bucket list
Maybe I will not sell my Michigan home and just rent it out for winter “booger-freezing-cold” tours?
You apparently are unfamiliar with temps in the north in the winter.
That is why I am retiring to my Lake Davenport home from my Michigan home.
You do not understand what grey dreary days are like for months on end, and what -28° with 30 mph wind feels like. It will kill you within 15 minutes if you are left stranded.
I will take Florida with its yearly temperature swing of about 70° versus my present 120° swing.
The good news is that greenhouse gases will keep us toasty warm through it all.
I think I heard on Headline News that climatologists are blaming President George Bush for the lack of sunspot activity.
The scientific press often repeats that dark matter makes up “25% of the Universe” or that dark energy makes up “70% of the rest of the Universe.” To anyone familiar with plasma physics, it is well known that plasma makes up 99.99% of the Universe. It is a fascinating convergence that the amount of gravitational mass invented to save conventional theories is the same as the ionized plasma that is overlooked.
Wal Thronhill
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/daily-tpod/
Why…that sounds like an Electric Universe.
I prefer Elastic Universe. Snap!
God Bless Global Warming !
God Bless President Trump !
God Bless America !
Global Warming is a terrible phenomenon. It now causes sun-spotless days. Obama told us he was the One the world was waiting for. He is here to tame the seas, the cause the tides to recede to to lower the sea levels. The Messiah act in strange ways that country folks like me cannot even contemplate. DC, NYC and coastal Elites, 93% Blacks, MSM know this messiah like no other.
Thank God! For a minute there I thought they were going to tell me this means the sun is shutting down!
Global warming? Yeah it gets hot in the summer.
America 2.0 coming soon. All Whites, Montana Idaho is a good start. Every American city is pathetic with black, hispanic gangs, must be cleaned up ASAP. The Donald can’t start soon enough. I will volunteer for free to help the round up.
You sound like a liberal trying too hard. They old smarmy Cole-Bert thing.
Yeah, not much of an effort.
The Commissar will not be putting an extra turnip in his lunch packet today!
It’s Bush Fault
He destroyed the sun from 2001-2008. Obama has been trying to fix it for 71/2 years.
Obozo did say he would part the seas or something.
Is this why I am still wearing a jacket in summer?
Up here in Maine, it’s 5-10 degrees above the normal average.
Maine is just a weird place, that’s all. Ya’ll like it thar?
Maine is on the way to being like W. Virginia. All those hard working fisherman put out on the streets to beg for their lively hoods because of the econut DemRats. In the mean time all the lib elites walk on in.
Thank God for AGW.
Great. How long before a Liberal politician will demand a tax for this?
And the Earth cools. Global Cooling is a danger as a result. We need to subsidize carbon usage if we follow the logic of the global warmers. Ah but they are wrong so let’s not.
Well, we won’t need the sun when the world ends.
The sun will be what causes the world to end when the sun swells up.
Oh, great! Now global warming is affecting the sun!
Caused by my suv and bovine flatulence
Bovine flatulence is not a problem … you should have paid more attention from grade 3 science classes onwards and you’d know that bovine eructation is the cause not flatulence.
I knew it. Vegans are destroying the planet by not eating cows.
That is not what they say now, I read the articles. Thought it was comical, but some “scientists” don’t think so.
Don’t know what you were reading but flatulence was never cited in science. Eructation yes and the dung itself to a lesser degree.
Trying to fix it for the wet backs?
This MUST be caused by Anthropogenic Global Warming… mustn’t it? We humans are just so awesome, so powerful! In fact, we’re about to blow ourselves out of existence with nuclear weapons…
a thicket of magnetic fields AND ELECTRIC fields you freekin morons
It’s clear we humans are responsible for this. We must take action now! The future of our solar system lies in balance. Contact your senator and congressman today !
May the Force be with you!
The only hope is a massive tax on sun usage.
We are about 10 years into a Grand Solar Minimum. Happens every 179 years. Google Dalton Minimum or Maunder Minimum.
Capt. Ron
Can any one out their contact al gore and ask to put up a rainbow
That would prove that he has been put in charge of the climate makers, and I will buy him a beer for happy hour when he shows up
It’s doing this because of climate change… (-:
Bill and HRC want to keep their greedy hands in the global warming bucket of gold.
<<"my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj29nx
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj29n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsExcellenceGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj29n….,…
A disease free prostitute should be making more than that….oh…wait…disease free….
Carry on…
There are solar cycles? Why didn’t all the Global Warming fanatics mention that? Couldn’t it be that cycles in sunspot activity might have something to do with cycles in global temperatures?
I used to think sunspots were cooler regions of the sun (because they’re dark, see?). But after reading The Real Global Warming Disaster by Christopher Booker, I learned that sunspots are regions of GREATER sun activity. And that sunspots and cosmic ray activity have caused cycles in earth temperatures from time immemorial.
Democrats will now switch to “global cooling” as a big threat. Populated areas will freeze requiring mass migration or, more likely, mass immigration from the warm countries in the middle east, think Islam. Democrats will start taxing citizens for not driving enough and not driving fossil fueled cars because they are contributing to global cooling. Democrats will insist that coal be burned everywhere to stop the horror of global cooling. They will claim that global cooling will contribute to “hail stone” hurricanes and will propose taxes to erect large umbrellas over our cities to deflect the hail. No matter what the weather or climate democrats will tax it.
Must be the SUV pollution. Now the sun has a carbon dioxide problem! Global warming is now Solar System Warming! Must produce more carbon credits!
They only drive Priuses on the Sun.
I heard solar energy is the hottest thing going on the sun.
“This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow, and our planet began to heal, and the Sun’s acne cleared up.”
Somehow, someway by some pixie dust and mental gymnastics the Walking Left (Hillary, Pelosi, Reid, et al) will try to exploit this for their political advantage. Let’s see how many days this takes. They’ll probably just end up blaming Christians when they have nothing to come up with.
I bet they blame it on sunscreen manufacturing. We will need a tax to address the crisis…
They will blame it on guns and the NRA.
They are Anti-sun violence
The Sun, man’s oldest enemy…
From the Scientific Journal Nature. Not qualified to explain the Theory. But can give you the gist of it. An Astrophysics theory was recently confirmed by actual observation. It was peer reviewed, and accepted. The Sun is expected to exhibit unusual activity cumulating in about a decade. It is expected to last for three decades. Of course, the Sun may have other plans. Anyway, if the Sun performs as expected the Earth will experience a three decade cooling cycle. However, nothing to presage an ice age.
The Climate Change people will love the consequences. These changes will not be predictable. They will impact on Regional Areas. As they progress prior changes will change again. The idea of Four Seasons will be in constant flux.
When the Sun ends this cycle things will settle back down over a fairly short but unknown time period. They don’t say but would assume the changes to be somewhat permanent or at least gradual.
From the Governments point of view this is great. Can Tax every change, blame it on the worlds people. If not that then on Bush. Perhaps too Sarcastic?
This will sure put a dent in the Global Warming scenario.
I don’t believe you understood the paper. Care to share the citation?
When first coming across it made notes. That was about six months past. No longer have a subscription to Nature nor Scientific America. Google Astrophysics – newly confirmed theory. Most likely will find a reference without having to pay for it. Bring up “Quora Digest” and pose the question.
By formal training an electrical engineer. Know enough to translate the mathematics into common language.
Weak deflection … just provide the paper or admit you made up crapola and wrote a load of piffle.
Don’t be so damn lazy. If really concerned do something about it, look it up.
Anyway, what does it matter. You have but three choices; It occurs, It does not occur, or some modification. Due to my age could care less, just found the Theory mildly interesting.
Read the Democrat Party platform. Looks like they will be involved with climate change and global warming. Those opposing them will surely raise this Theory as a defense. So just have patience.
I do find it amusing that people will produce and argue for results using opinion and hearsay, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the primary science sources. Quote and cite the primary source or STFU.
Have a short memory do you? It came from the Journal Nature.
Don’t know why you even pursue this line? It is of little importance as there is nothing you can do about it. You do have a way with adjectives, give you that.
Hearsay is meaningless. Care to cite the paper.
First it was short memory, now lack of comprehension. Are you going to just fade away?
Well, looked up the notes. Sure enough wrote down the particulars. But guess what… not going to give it to you. Pick up the phone, call them, tell them what you are looking, ask for a reprint and pay for it just as I had to pay for the subscription. You are not only lazy but cheap. What other negative attributes do you have; sure there are many. You have got to be one of those inapt democrats! You have my condolences.
OK. I’ll take that as your admission and concession that you have no citation for your fabricated junk science. Time for you to acquiesce and move on. Your humiliation was firmly established several comments back.
Now you accuse me of junk science? Engineers do not do junk science, nor any science for that matter.
Want junk science? Look to the Global Warming and Climate Change idiots. Never a citation, never list qualifications, Never published in a Peer Reviewed Journal. Not one Astrophysicist among the lot. Even the Farmers Almanack employs two and have a forecasting accuracy of 87 percent.
Who denies Climate Change? Nobody. Any fool knows it will change with every breath.
Who denies Global Warming? Nobody. Been going in cycles for many millions of years.
Who denies Global Cooling? Nobody with more than two brain cells. It also cycles.
So what is denied? The idiotic conclusions is a good place to start. A complaint is made against too much CO2. Well guess what? It is real good for growing plants to feed a growing world population. The plants put off Oxygen which bind with other gases to help clean the air.
People are blamed for Global Warming and Climate Change? Why? Because governments can tax them. Can’t tax the real villains; The Sun. The Inclination of the Planet to the Sun. The eccentric wobble of the Planet. Volcanic eruptions, Periodic changes in Ocean Currents. These are primary. Mans activity is but a pinprick in comparison.
I do concede I have been responding to someone border line retarded.
Nice deflection to avoid a simple science citation. Your jejune, pleonastic, truculent jeremiad of junk science shows why engineers are not scientists and very poor at research. When will engineers realize that they are not automatically scientific polymaths? Anyone in a physics department will tell you that an alarmingly large fraction of the relativity-disprovers, climate-deniers and other cranks submitting unsolicited manuscripts with bizarre theories-of-everything describe themselves as “retired engineers”. And to confirm your ignorance and leave no doubt as to your scientific illiteracy you make a classic science blunder about plants and CO₂. Obviously, you’re clueless to the biogeochemical, energy, landuse and temperature autotrophic drivers necessary for photosynthesis to occur. CO₂ alone does squat and too much decreases nutrient and protein yields in C3 and C4 vegetation. Ever studied the PNL hypothesis? Obviously not … here’s some science now go educated yourself:
“Increasing CO₂ threatens human nutrition,” Samuel S. Myers et al, Nature, May 7, 2014, DOI: 10.1038/nature13179
Projections for conditions under increased atmospheric CO₂ (drought) make this problematic for crops. In addition, research is showing that rice will not germinate at 35°C or above, and that many important crops become less nutritious when grown in elevated CO₂ levels. Consider the effect on agricultural productivity of the 2003 European or 2010 Ukraine/Russian heat wave. Then there is the problem of pest migration due to warmer temperatures. It all adds up to a very murky picture for agriculture in the later part of this century. That should make you less sanguine.
I’m sure this is either Bush’s, Trump’s or all the Republican’s fault somehow.
I blame global warming….oh…wait…you can’t blame global warming on global warming, can you?
global warming has more to do with the suns activity than scientist will admit. Seems cooling is on for this year and for the next few.
No, please google “Hottest years on record”. The Earth is getting warmer, but the sun is getting cooler? What are you talking about?
Google ‘temperature adjustment’
Or ‘satellite record’
UAH and RSS satellite record shows 0.12°C/decade warming trend which is an unprecedented 30x faster than last four natural warming cycles. Observations and measurements show that human-induced CO₂ into the atmosphere is the external forcing responsible for this warming. Gillett et al (DOI: 10.1029/2011GL050226) show the human attribution of the warming trend to be 102% of observed warming from 1851 to 2010 and 113% of the observed warming from 1951 to 2000 and 1961 to 2010 (averaged together)
Wow!
I guess someone will have to explain to you how long satellites have been up there, and how short a time that is in geological terms.
And as they keep tampering with the surface records…..
It was you suggestion to Google satellite record … so what was your motive then to recommend that and now disown it? Your hearsay about tampering surface records is meaningless without verifiable evidence from authoritative sources which excludes the denierosphere.
The satellite data does not confirm the surface record adjustments.
I’m not disowning the satellite data, simply pointing out that it is the most accurate, but the period it covers is far too short to extrapolate any trends from.
It can be both, accurate, and the period can be to short to predict any significant trend.
You should learn a bit about science and logic.
The satellite data covers 35 years, and the surface data is a massaged joke.
Neither proves AGW in any way.
You’re either delusional or a liar or grossly ignorant. Pick one. The satellite data measures the mid-troposphere through microwave radiometers, and is actually significantly more difficult to interpret than the ground-based observations. The idea that the satellites are some kind of truth-o-meter is really not correct at all. The differences between satellites and the surface are limited to those regions of the earth that have variable land cover – like SNOW covered areas. The satellite algorithms assume a constant emissivity and well … that’s just wrong. The satellite data are the MOST adjusted data we have. It is such an indirect measurement (more calculations) and a relatively new science, so it became and remains the most fudged. Manipulated. Or are you going to call it massaged? If massaged, then you’re going to have to admit that other data sets are correctly adjusted or homogenized and stop using denier terms.
The rest of your comment is just pure bull$h!t and I must presume it is for the same reason you select to answer the above vacuity.
So now you don’t understand temperature or geology.
That’s too bad.
Mercifully you have escaped the ravages of intelligence due to suffering from cranium intra réctum since your youth. When you lose the argument do you always pretend that you have some knowledge when clearly you have squat as you so ably demonstrate repetitively.
Why are you so hate filled?
Is it because you finally understand the idea that 30 years of data does not confirm any long term trends?
I know math is hard for you drama types….
We have data going back millions of years from many sources. The satellite data track well with the better datasets … so your argument is moot.
Millions of years from many sources?
How about 13 trees?
That’s how many they used to produce the hockey stick graph, which was bogus.
Confirmation of the hockey stick (through 2013):
1. 1998: K. R. Briffa, et al., Influence of volcanic eruptions on Northern Hemisphere summer temperature over the past 600 years, Nature, 393, 450-455, 4 June 1998
2. 2000: T. J. Crowley, Causes of Climate Change over the Past 1000 Years, Science, 289, 270
3. 2000: S. Huang, H. N. Pollack, P. Y. Shen, Temperature trends over the past five centuries reconstructed from borehole temperatures, Nature Letts., 403, 756-758
4. 2002: C. Bertrand, et al., Climate of the last millennium: a sensitivity study, Tellus, 54,3,2210244, May
5. 2002: J. Esper, Cook, Schweingruber, Low-Frequency Signals in Long Tree-Ring Chronologies for Reconstructing Past Temperature Variability, Science, 295, 5563, pp.2250-2253, Mar. 22, 2002
6. T. M. Cronin et al., MWP, LIA, and 20th century temperature variability from Chesapeake Bay, Global Planetary Change, 36, 2003, 17-29
7. 2004: H. N. Pollack, J. E. Smerdon, Borehole climate reconstructions: Spatial structure and hemispheric averages, J. Geophys. Res., 109, D11106, 9pp, 2004
8. 2005: E. Jansen, et al., “Extracting a Climate Signal from 169 Glacier Records”, Science, 308,5722,675-677, Apr
9. 2005: A. Moberg et al. Northern Hemisphere 2,000 year Temperature Reconstruction using low and high-res proxy data
10. 2005: S. Rutherford, et al., “Proxy-Based Northern Hemisphere Temperature Reconstructions”, J.Clim,18, 2308-2329,2005
11. 2005: R. Wilson, et al., “Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low/high-resolution proxy data”, Nature,433,7026,613-617,Feb2005
12. 2006: R. D’Arrigo, et al., On the long-term context for late twentieth century warming”. J.Geophys.Res.,111(D3)
13. 2006: T. J. Osborn, K.R. Briffa, “The Spatial Extent of 20th-Century Warmth in the Context of the Past 1200 Years”.Science311(5762):841-844,2006
14. 2007: A. Moberg, et al., Ch 6: Palaeoclimate, IPCC 4th Assessment Report, 2007
15. 2007: R. Wilson, et al., “A matter of divergence:Tracking recent warming at hemispheric scales using tree ring data”, J.Geophys.Res.,112,D17103,Sept2007
16. 2007: J. Jouzel, et al., “Orbital and Millennial Antarctic Climate Variability over the Past 800,000 Years”, Science, 317,5839,793-797,Aug2007.
17. 2007: M. Ammann and E. Wahl, Climatic Change, 85, 1-2 , 71-88
18. 2007: M. N. Juckes, Millennial temperature reconstruction intercomparison and evaluation, Clim. Past, 3, 591-609, 2007
19. 2007: Wilson et al. N. Hemisphere Tree-Ring-Based Temperature Reconstruction 1750-2005, J. Geophys. Res., 112, D17103, 11 Sept.
20. 2007: E. R. Wahl, C. M. Ammann, Robustness of the Mann, Bradley, Hughes reconstruction of Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures: Examination of criticisms based on the nature and processing of proxy climate evidence, Climatic Change, 85:33-69, 2007
21. 2008: A. Moberg, R. Mohammad, T. Mauritsen, Analysis of the Moberg et al. (2005)hemispheric temperature reconstruction, Clim. Dyn. 31, 7-8, 957-971, Dec. 2008
22. 2009: D. S. Kaufman, et al., Recent Warming Reverses Long-Term Arctic Cooling, Science, 325, 1236 (2009)
23. 2009: H. von Storch, Zorita, Gonzalez-Rouco, Assessment of three Temperature Reconstruction Methods in the Virtual Reality of a Climate Simulation, Int. J. Earth Sci. , 98, 1, 2009
24/25. 2010: M.P. Tingley, P. Huybers, “A Bayesian Algorithm for Reconstructing Climate Anomalies in Space and Time. Part I: Development and Applications to Paleoclimate Reconstruction Problems”; Part II: Comparison with the Regularized Expectation-Maximization Algorithm”. J.Clim.23 (10):2759-2800,2010
26. 2010: D. Frank, et al., A noodle, hockey stick, and spaghetti plate: a perspective on high-resolution paleoclimatology, WIREs, Climate Change, 1, 4, 507-516, July/Aug. 2010
27. 2011: J. Martin-Chivelet, et al., Land surface temperature changes in Northern Iberia since 4000yrBP, based on δ13C of speleothems, Global and Planetary Change, 77,1-2, pp 1-12, 2011
28. 2011: R. F. Spielhagen, et al., Enhanced Modern Heat Transfer to the Arctic by Warm Atlantic Water, Science, 331, 6016, pp. 450-453, 2011
29. 2011: J. Oerlemans, Jan2011,Science Express Index “2500 Years of European Climate Variability and Human Susceptibility”
30. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist. et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227-240, 2012
31. 2012: R. Rohde, et al., A New Estimate of the Average Earth Surface Land Temperature Spanning 1753 to 2011, J. Geophys. Res.
32. 2012:J. Gergis, et al., “Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an AUSTRALASIAN temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium”, J. Climate
33. 2012: T. Melvin, H. Grudd, K. R. Briffa, Potential bias in ‘updating’ tree-ring chronologies using regional curve standardisation: Re-processing 1500 years of Torneträsk density and ring-width data, Holocene, Oct. 26, 2012
34. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist, et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227,240, 2012
35. 2013: N. J. Abram, et al., Acceleration of snow melt in an Antarctic Peninsula ice core during the twentieth century, Nature Geosci., 6, 404-411 (see figs. 4 and 5)
36. 2013: S. A. Marcott, et al., A Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years, Science, 8, 339, 6124, 1198-1201
Read and learn:
https://www.amazon.ca/22A-Disgrace-Profession-22-Steyn-editor/dp/0986398330
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/403256/global-warming-bombshell/
I know admitting you have wasted your life on this scam is going to take some time to adjust too, but when you are in a hole, quit digging.
You lost the argument and the science when you have to go to non-scientific science-denier sites. What are you going to do when Steyn loses and has to file bankruptcy to pay the damages. Pro tip: Steyn hasn’t been able to get one scientist climate expert or skeptic to join his defense team.
Sun has been in a cooling trend for 25 years and axial nutation forcings are also in a cooling trend… so why is the planet experiencing unprecedented warming?
Yes, the sun has been very unactive recently, which is partially why it’s so disturbing that 2016 is on pace to become the warmest year on record, (2015 was the previous record). Global warming is real. Climate change is real. Ocean acidification is real. Wake up.
go drink some more kool aid
Go inform yourself about science.
like the scientist who created the fake hockey stick graph. Right I’ll stick with the sun
Google “Hottest years on record”.
all coincide with high sun spot and solar wind activity. Cosmic waves are now active in causing high altitude clouds that are cooling the earth at this time.
“Google” most liberals on payroll!
google coolest years on record
The hottest years on record occurred LONG before any humans existed. Or any animals at all, for that matter.
You global cooling deniers really crack me up.
How much does Big Stupid pay you to post that drivel?
Climate has always changed.
Who would deny that?
Let me be more specific: dangerous climate destabilization created by human consumption.
go live in the woods in Alaska and leave the rest of the world alone with your nonsense.
That sounds lovely. Unfortunately I won’t stop telling people about this shit, because it’s terrifying and it’s real.
go stand in your safe zone you perv.
Go ahead, ignore the facts. Watch your Fox News, regurgitating opinions handed down from corporate America. Witless idiot.
Speaking of regurgitated opinions….
BTW, how are you going to save the planet from plant food?
Any suggestions?
CO₂is not a food as it is not a source of energy. Again you fail at grasping grade 3 science. Were you home or bible schooled?
So now you need a lesson in simple plant biology too?
I don’t think that is likely or possible from you especially as you made a grade 3 science error about CO₂. CO₂ is not food as it has zero joules or calories. When you’re finished coloring in your science books ask your mom or another adult to read to you how plants turn biogeochemical nutrients (fertilizers) using energy to form proteins and carbohydrates and the importance of water, sunlight, and temperature.
You don’t understand that plants require CO2?
That’s just sad, but what is even more sad you are trying to base your argument on it.
And it you’re going to get nasty I’m burning another old tractor tire at the farm.
That’s not what I wrote … there you go straight for the red herring/straw man fallacy. CO₂ fertilization does not work in isolation.
So you are just totally lost in other words.
Your war on plant food has become a quagmire…..
Sign up for summer remedial reading and comprehension classes. If there’s not any published research that states exactly what you’re claiming, CO₂ is plant food, then there are two possibilities. (a) No one has shown this in the research, and there’s an opportunity to publish an important paper, or (b) no one else working in the field agrees with your conclusions.
Your inability to understand simple concepts like plant biology is not my concern.
Your ignorance is your problem, not mine.
Tell me about that plant food mechanism that only you know about in biology … don’t be coy … share … I’m always up for learning other science fields. Please proceed …
“In a process called “photosynthesis,” plants use the energy in sunlight to convert CO2 and water to sugar and oxygen. The plants use the sugar for food—food that we use, too, when we eat plants or animals that have eaten plants — and they release the oxygen into the atmosphere.”
Get it yet?
The part about you being a delusional SJW?
Pleased that I was able to teach you that CO₂ is not plant food. Took awhile but you eventually got to grade 3 level knowledge.
So you have a reading comprehension problem.
My condolences.
What do you watch? MSNBC?
yawn
You really need to consume 100 ml of Thorazine and take a nap!
That’s pretty psychologically revealing. If something is harming the planet, just take a sedative and relax, right? Unfortunately I’d like to do something to change the world in a positive direction.
Incorrect interpretation, I was stating that you are mentally ill and need to be medicated and restrained before you injure yourself or others!
Take yourself out of the equation, save the Earth from your CO2 exhalations.
Simple grade 3 science has escaped you. The exhalation from living animals is carbon neutral to very slightly negative.
Take a cue from Ms O’Connor!
i.e., massive tax increases ftw!
Is it wise to mix Thorazine and that much AGW Koolaid?
I believe it is exactly the therapy needed!
If some is good, more might be better…
Good idea, lets do 500 ml iv push!
Why worry about your fantasies?
Climate has always changed, and there is nothing unusual about the recent changes.
Try reality!
Climate destabilization? lol.
There have been massive “climate destabilization” events all through earth’s long geological history. No one is agreed on what caused them, except for the KT event and now, the Younger Dryas, which were caused by impacts of cometary fragments.
Saying human activities are causing climate destabilization is blatant fearmongering, since humanity is clearly not hurling a 4 mile diameter slushball at earth at 40k mph, and that is the only known cause of such destabilization.
Your straw man is as illy as ‘The Black Death in the middle ages is estimated to have killed more of Europe’s population than World War 2. This means that deaths during World War 2 were not unusual, and hence must be due to natural causes, not man-made’
And WWII ended, and human population is doing fine, whats your point?
Inactive?
Global warmi…wait, what?
2016 is on par to become the hottest year on record. (2015 was the hottest year before that) Jesus, you guys, read! Think, for even a second. If the sun’s on a cooling cycle, why is the Earth getting so much warmer? Why are droughts becoming more severe, wildfires raging in the entire western coast? Coral reefs dying? Oceans acidifying?
Stop using the Internet, television, and your air conditioner then if you want to make a difference.
He already turned off his brain…
There wasn’t much thermal output there to begin with
Sorry, you lost me at blah blah blah..
Think, if only for a second: why do they keep adjusting the temperature record to make the latest year appear to be the hottest?
Because it’s the tamperature record, obviously
Dogs humping cats, oh my!
Probably because then he would have two of them up there.
I blame Brexit and Farage..
We are in a cooling trend. So when are the clowns gonna stop spraying the sky to block out the sun?
Did you buy up all the tin foil and duct tape at Walmart or did you leave some for others?
Bah! Tin foil sucks. Go aluminum, it has a bigger carbon footprint.
look up
Look Up
Gore will claim that the lack of sunspots is caused by global warming.
Exactly!
Send money.
I blame the racism of the cis-normal white European male patriarchy.
And George Bush.
Pay no attention to that large ball of fusing hydrogen up in the sky, it has no effect on the Earth’s temperature.
2016 is set to become the warmest year on record. Google “Hottest years on record”.
Been there, done that.
Google ‘temperature adjustments.’
If your research was as thorough as you imply, you should be turning up different results. Have any links from a scientist or scientifically literate person who knows what they’re doing?
What are you doing to save the planet, other than bombarding us with your bullshit?
Depends on when, where and how doesn’t it. You like the cooked books?
Invest in winter gear suppliers.
And insulation manufacturers, and lawyers that specialize in suing climate change hoaxers.
The sun is cooling, and yet the Earth is getting…warmer. How do you explain that?
Thumb on the scale, in other words, temperature record adjustments.
Yes.
The earth has not warmed for more than 18 years.
But you would only know that if you did not allow the legacy mainstream media; the activists; and the bought and paid for grant and publicity seeking “scientists” be your only source for information.
There is a 97% consensus amongst climate scientist. That would constitute the biggest conspiracy in the history of science.
No there isnt, and consensus means jack in science anyway. The whole point of the scientific endeavor was to provide a way to break through consensus. That’s why they’re called “scientific breakthroughs”.
Oh!
My!
God!
That BS was debunked years ago.
97% of the tiny fraction of “climate scientists” that were asked to respond to a survey that actually responded, agreed.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/30/the-myth-of-the-97-climate-change-consensus/
And even a lot of them have changed their minds.
That means that the vast majority have not even weighed in.
AND: Science IS NOT CONSENSUS! It is PROOF and Replication of Results.
They have um, vested interest in promoting their religion since it butters their bread
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. Exactly what is your source for information as it definitely isn’t peer-reviewed science.
Neither.
But you do a great job of projecting.
Perhaps you should actually educate yourself.
Start with wattsupwiththat.com
or http://www.science20.com/
or junkscience.com
The data is the SAME data used by the people that lie to you.
They just tell you that statistical noise is warming.
I do find it amusing that people will produce and argue for results using data from non-scientific sources, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the primary sources. Why on earth wouldn’t you start with the primary sources in the first place? Because they don’t support your false assertion? There’s a plethora of published peer-reviewed science on the topic!
Pro tip #1: Wattsupwiththat isn’t a science site. It’s a propaganda site trying to look like a science site, and failing more and more as it falls deeper and deeper into conspiracy theories and general crapola. Watts. Let that sink in for awhile. The guy who has no science background and has been wrong about just about everything he ever published. BEST ran his “grade A” station at his request, and they show the exact same warming. Watts slinked away without honoring his declaration that he’s conceded defeat if they showed the same warming. Watts has been wrong about ALL of his predictions, because he said the earth was cooling. And he was wrong about the stations and their overall reporting accuracy. He has no background in what he’s writing about, and it shows. BTW: he is also fed up with you deniers not understanding basic science.
There you go folks.
The left wing brain is impenetrable.
The religious zealots of “Sciencism” will accept no facts that are not church doctrine.
So certain are the willfully ignorant that they are “amused” as they ignore the truth.
Have fun with your flat earth friends, luddite.
Interesting but you deflect very weakly and avoid explaining why go to secondary or tertiary non-scientific sites for science? Your last sentence is pure projection and describes you succinctly as you are apparently afraid of science … why?
Wow!
All those 11 cent words have just taken me down in defeat (not).
And it is proof of one of the left’s favorite dodges.
A flurry of words that essentially say nothing, prove nothing, but just allow you to get another post in.
Why?
Because you believe he who posts the most wins.
Climate theory as spouted by the hoaxers has failed to predict anything, but has been adjusted to explain everything.
We have not warmed since 1998, yet the claims every year are that we just had the hottest (fill in the blank ) ever.
Being the energizer bunny of posters only makes you sad.
And now you will insist upon the last word.
Do you always deflect with weak off-topic nonsense when you lose the point? Your disdain and ineptitude for English is because it is your second language or a lack of education? So back to the original crap you sprouted that you have yet to support with evidence from science:
The sun. You mean that big yellow thing in the sky? No. You don’t understand. Surely you jest. All climate on earth is controlled by man-made CO2!!!
2016 is set to beat 2015 for the Hottest Year on Record. The sun is cooling. How could the sun cooling explain the extreme heat, increased droughts, and wildfires raging across the Western U.S.?
What increased droughts?
Wildfires?
There are many causes of wildfires, chief among them deranged Global Warming fanatics.
Extreme heat?
You mean it hasn’t been this hot since the last time it was this hot?
Take your Thorazine and give us all a break from your bullshit.
Did you Google Hottest Year on Record? Yes, hot air absorbs moisture from plants (making them tinder) and decreases relative humidity, thereby increasing the duration and frequency of droughts, and wildfires. It’s a game of statistics. That alone won’t kill us, but we are approaching the tipping points of Arctic Amplification (when the ocean absorbs more heat because it is a black body, compared to ice, which reflects heat), and the melting of the Arctic Permafrost (which is a HUGE reserve of C02)
Ever been to Montana? In 5 years, Glacier National Park will be gone. When this happens, and you you see a link on Drudge, maybe you’ll remember this moment and open your eyes.
You are clearly delusional.
We’ve always had wildfires, and climate is only one small factor in how many and how severe they are.
Get a brain.
I work in the Arctic, btw, and your horror stories are just another AGW fantasy.
And you still haven’t answered what you are doing to save the planet, other than blowassing your AGW bullshit all over the place.
Yawns is spot on and you’re so far removed from reality that I must conclude that mercifully you have escaped the ravages of intelligence due to suffering from cranium intra réctum since your youth.
No one knows what reality is, exactly. Anyone who thinks they do know is philosophically and scientifically illiterate. And delusional.
Have a nice day.
You are being pedantic and obtuse. We know many things because they are repeatable such as acid +base will give salt +water without loss of mass.
Yes, but those things can only be accepted as “real” after making certain metaphysical assumptions about the nature of reality.
Because, as I said….we don’t actually know what reality is, or even if there is such a thing. Descartes illustrated this very well. “I think, therefore I am” is as far as one can get in determining what is “real”. After that, it’s all stacks of assumptions and guesswork.
And yes, I was being pedantic. I find that the best response to obnoxious elitism is a bit of calculated pedantry.
That jejune jeremiad fails as it is almost as weak as the god of the gaps fallacy.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one.
Nice refutation, lol.
Arson?
Cooler weather is sure too follow and we head too the solar minimum 2020 or so !
Our magnetic field will shrink and weaken even more !
Dire global warming folks will be saddened by the lack of accuracy of there computer models of C02 making it hotter again !
Since that theory came out it CO2 has not been a reliable indicator so why not ?
The basis of Global warming is C02 but it has failed to track too the models consistently.
Bad Science is when politics involved , it appears the truth has been B.S.
Sun was in their eyes, the dog ate their global warming, the car had a flat tire….
Absolutely nothing in your silly jejune comment is found in published science. Why make up crapola it just makes you look like an imbecile?
There was a scientific paper released a coupe of years ago predicting a solar minimum. Unlike long term global temperature science, which is in its infancy, solar correlations has much better data correlations.
Prediction? A mini ice age is coming.
Simple science is not your friend. We’re in an ice-age and the interglacial cycle. The glacial cycle is not due for tens of thousands of years.
You can take it up with the scientists.
As for being in an ice age now. yes, technically we are, since the strictest definition requires only that there be some year round ice.
Yes, we are still in an ice age for the anally retentive folks like yourself.
Thank you for confirming that you are neither a scientist nor scientifically literate but rather obnoxiously nescient and a cretin to boot.
Obviously you are not one either. You are anal retentive however. No one talks about us being in an ice age today. Except you.
Hmmm … I guess with your snark you just confirmed that science is like Sanskrit to you! Personal incredulity is meaningless. i always get a kick out of dumb uneducated science-deniers trying to make fun of scientists. If you don’t know the basics you won’t understand the problem.
Yes, I should already realize that anal retentive people like you can’t just pull out of the condition.
Now anthropogenic global warming is ruining the sun too.
Yup, it’s been going downhill ever since Louis Armstrong was the first man to walk on the Sun.
He should have waited until after dark to do that.
Is that Yawns dummy going to explain what he is doing to save the planet, other than bombarding us with his AGW bullshit?
Another bad day for the Global Cooling Deniers.
Oh, fine… so the Sun went out. The critical question is, how did Bush manage to accomplish it?
Algore went to all the trouble of flying his private jet around the world to warn you about your SUV, but did you listen? No, and see what you’ve done.
Al Gore is not a great spokesman for the issue. The solution is not carbon offsets, it’s a scaling back to the level of consumerism and pre-global market mindset to the level it was approximately in during the 1970’s.
So what are you doing on a computer?
Weakest Solar Cycle in a century? What a joke! Almost fell out of my chair. In case you haven’t been watching, this “11 Year Solar Cycle” theory is gone! Yep bye bye theory…. In fact the past 2 “Cycles” have been completely out of sync. There are no Solar Models able to predict Solar Activity with any level of certainty? The solar cycle was discovered in 1843… So tell me, what Scientist given the 4.5 billion years the Sun has existed would deem a cycle that has been tracked for 173 years to be immutable? The Sun has become unpredictable, and there is nothing they can do but let the press continue to report the existence of a Cycle that has dissolved before their eyes. To do otherwise would be to admit they lack the ability to predict solar output, thus they cannot say whether the Sun sill heat up for 10,000 years, or cool down for a thousand years. So why give money to attempt to do something about Climate Change when you have no idea what to do?
When you look at the chart in the article and then don’t believe your lying eyes, you’ve gone past the tipping point into full delusion.
Wow, you are hopeless how about monitoring Solar Activity daily for the past 30 years. I guess you recognize the letters S O H O. Didn’t think so. You are listening to idiots. Tell me why didn’t they predict the 500 year flood? Tell me why if you study ACTUAL SOLAR SCIENCE you find that they have stated that the past two cycles DID NOT OCCUR at the 11 year period. So I roll out a chart that shows your a complete moron that means it is true.
Unless you are doing the study, you are collecting the date, you are monitoring sunspot activity, you would not know that these stories are complete lies. It is all to keep you locked into the Globalist plan to take over based upon Climate Change. They ABSOLUTELY have no ability to predict the weather beyond a couple of days even then they are mostly wrong. They likewise lack the ability to predict Solar output… FACT! Prove me wrong with actual data. You cannot, that data does not exist. the Real data proves that the Cycle has disappeared…
Global Cooling … ???
Nah. Nobody to blame or taxes to pay
when there’s no more credit by 2020, and the whole world can’t borrow another rubble, will the illegal aliens walk back home?
In fact, the famous “shitstorm” known as the Monika Lewinski Event occurred during a heavy menstrual cycle.
what is the correlation, if any, to climate change. if none, does this cycle mitigate climate change or make it worse. or is everything just a big ass guess?
Since we can’t tax what happens on the sun, I think they will stick with the man made theory.
It’s Bush’ fault! Manmade global warming did this!
Do you really need the /sarc tag?
Yes, had he signed the Kyoto agreement, we would all be shivering right now. 😉
La Nina and a quiet star. I’d bet on a wet, cold rest of 2016.
It does not matter. Minimum, Maximum ‘0’ will keep trying to figure out some way to redistribute whatever is left that isn’t nailed down. Fortunately, we have only five more months to endure his plundering ways. Then, like water on Oz’s wicked witch, he will melt away into infamy. His legacy not to be as fondly remembered as he had hoped.
I always thought it was sunspots that turned the American public in Birther-Whitewater ranting ratbags.
But after reading the puerile, juvenile comments below, I realize you’re just crazy and you deserve the hell that will befall you all if you ever elect your new hero Donald Trump.
With all your help we can make America great again in no time. I always wished I was so enlightened myself.
https://youtu.be/r7e6gLht6OQ
Von Drumpf is going to make America Great Again by getting Hillary and Dems elected. He has no policies other than slogans of “make America segregate again” which is popular among our bottom feeders or you might remember Donald for such classics as, “I have the world’s best memory,” “There’s nobody bigger or better at the military than I am,” and “Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest—and you all know it!” How is he going to get Mexico to pay for the wall when he can’t even get supporters to pay for his campaign?
<—————————————————————————-
PROOF this is man made global warming caused by Bush due to fracking!
END FRACKING ON THE SUN NOW!
I remember back in 1362 the sun was doing the same thing. It was hotter than a sum bitch in the summer , but colder than a witches tit in the winter. My sister had a few 100 rats to play with, so she was happy. My father came home from the potato field one day, and told us the sun was asleep again.
There were no potato fields in 1362.
The Federal Gov. will soon be putting into place a “Sunspot Activity Or Lack Of Tax.”
It’s global warming and the sun spots have been stolen by the estrogen free hag, the spots can be retrieved on her e-mail server.
The Sun clearly needs to come to the Hill and testify before Congress. It needs to stop its shenanigans and support of climate change. It might be contributing to a cooling period right now, but just wait! It will come back stronger than ever.
The sun has been in a slight decline for the past 25 years and axial orbital nutation forcings put Earth in a natural cooling cycle … yet the planet is warming at unprecedented 30x faster than the last four natural interglacial warming cycles due to human induced CO₂ into the atmosphere.
Yes that tiny fractional increase of 0.04% of the atmosphere really changes things huh? Temperature recordings have been manipulated and are relative to your point of reference. There is no evidence that the slight changes in CO2 levels have anything to do with anything except produce bigger crop yields. For my money, I’d go try to salvage the remainder of the rain forest which cannot be easily replaced rather than institute a misguided and corrupt carbon tax system.
First sentence correct. Second and third vacuity. I’ll ignore the balance as meaningless prejudiced feelings.
Deflect and deny but can’t prove anything. Typical of the left.
No defection cupcake. I answered seriatim. One can not be more direct than that.
No you didn’t sweetie. You just dismissed them with no evidence to support your hypothesis.
Math and science weren’t your strongest in HS were they?
Argue you all you want but I answered seriatim. First, they weren’t my assertions (not hypothesis as you misuse so I wonder if you did science at school?). Second, the burden of proof is on you. Third, as to math there was none involved so I must conclude you didn’t do that at school either.
Your “hypothesis” is that global warming exists. You haven’t proven it. Thus you deflect yet again. If there really was hard evidence to support your assertion, I’d consider it.
A tiny fraction increase of a small percentage is MATH. Obviously you exaggerate the importance of this gas. You believe that a loose association exists between CO2 levels and global climate events. Maybe but correlations do not mean causation.
Anytime you want to discuss science I’d be happy to oblige.
I made no such assertion.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one.
Nope. It is volume. And it is a very simple physics exercise to calculate it’s impact on the surface of the Earth plus we have paleoclimatological and geological records records that clearly show it’s the planet’s thermostat. That “tiny fraction” of gas if it were H₂S would be fatal for you.
Notice how the ignorant leftist trash always ‘ignore’ anything that contradicts their beliefs. Real ‘sciency’ stuff there!!!
I didn’t ignore anything. I answered every part of the junk science and ignored the commentators vacuous opinions.
You’re a comment section troll on the internet – and clearly a legend in your own mind. Too stupid to ever understand or admit that you were wrong. Try to get a real education somewhere or some psychiatric help.
Please, don’t make me laugh. The ice caps have increased in size. We are in danger of a mini ice age.
You can go and look at them in real time and see what an idiotic statement you just made. Do you always segue off-topic when you don’t know how to answer the evidence?
You’re stupid, man. It’s in plain sight for any idiot to see. I’m not looking at the cooked books. I’m reading actual data, from real scientists. Google map it, idiot.
Real time is not found in books. If your research was as thorough as you imply, you should be turning up different results. Have any help/links from a scientist or scientifically literate person who knows what they’re doing?
A majority of scientists disagree with global warming. Proven fact. Didn’t Gore say we’d be underwater by this time? HA.
You’re segueing off-topic into bull$h!t. You need to provide evidence for your ice-cap vacuity or concede that you were wrong.
No I don’t, actually. You need to go do some research. If you’ve ever been to college or graduate school, you should know how to be independent and, well, do your own research.
Clearly you haven’t been to college let alone graduate school. My grand kids in elementary school know how to find the polar ice data in real time … why can’t you? Here let me help you http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/. You’ll notice that it shows you were/are FOS.
You mean they know where to find doctored data? Good for them, I’m happy for their early indoctrination.
You’re a nescient git who is either a pernicious fool, a perfidious charlatan or mendacious obscurantist. Pick one.
You are just an idiot. That’s it.
Just like with all articles related to the climate change scam we have one fanatic/idiot on here spamming every comment with their lies and propaganda. Only two possibilities here; he’s a troll paid pennies to spend all day spamming -or- he’s actually so stupid that he thinks he’s fighting to ‘save the planet’. I actually think Leftwithnobrain is one of those laughable pieces of human trash who bought into the whole climate change scam because it gives meaning to his otherwise worthless and insignificant life.. .
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and a scam?A. Because they are uneducated, nescient, science-deniers, of course and are those kids that always lose, and rather than getting better, they just claim everyone else cheats or it’s a conspiracy to fool them.
The really laughable point is that when this idiot types his drivel like that above, think about the fact that he is saying these ridiculous pathetic statements about people like Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen – and thousands of other scientists who are accomplished and respected leaders and visionaries in their fields. YOU on the other hand are nobody. A worthless pathetic comment section troll on the internet.
Scroll up to see how your hero Lindzen actually fares in the real scientific world.
“The
common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to
unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of
global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit
the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and
it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be
overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
–
Club of Rome,
premier environmental
think-tank,
consultants to the United
Nations
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“We
need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public’s
imagination…
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make
simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any
doubts…
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is
between being effective and being honest.”
– Prof.
Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead
author of many IPCC
reports
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“We’ve
got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of
global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms
of
economic and environmental policy.”
– Timothy
Wirth,
President of the UN Foundation
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“No
matter if the science of global warming is all phony…
climate
change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice
and equality in the world.”
– Christine
Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the
Environment
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“The
data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations
on the
data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
– Prof.
Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and
Research
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“The
models are convenient fictions
that provide something very
useful.”
– Dr David Frame,
climate modeler,
Oxford
University
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“I
believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the
facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the
audience.”
–
Al Gore,
Climate Change
activist
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“It
doesn’t matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe
is true.”
– Paul Watson,
co-founder of
Greenpeace
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“The
only way to get our society to truly change is to
frighten people
with the possibility of a catastrophe.”
– emeritus
professor Daniel
Botkin
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“The
climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and
spiritual
challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest
opportunity
to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level.”
–
Al Gore,
Nobel
Peace Prize acceptance
speech
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“We
are on the verge of a global transformation.
All we need is the
right major crisis…”
– David Rockefeller,
Club
of Rome executive
member
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The planet is not warming at unprecedented rate – until the criminals in the climate division of NASA/NOAA alter the data to fit the agenda of their sole source of funding – the zealots in the Obama administration.
I’d wager you have no evidence from published science sources for your vacuity and hearsay.
Actually you’re a liar and an idiot because there is plenty of documented scientific evidence of the data manipulation. Very easy for anybody to find, except for you anti-science fools who joined a cult and will never admit you were wrong – or read anything that conflicts with your new religion.
I’m always suspicious of scientifically illiterate people who make broad claims but never provide any evidence from published peer-reviewed science sources. So do you have any citations?
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and religion?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
The really laughable point is that when this idiot types his drivel like that above, think about the fact that he is saying these ridiculous pathetic statements about people like Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen – and thousands of other scientists who are accomplished and respected leaders and visionaries in their fields. YOU on the other hand are nobody. A worthless pathetic comment section troll on the internet…
Are you referring to the old codger Lindzen that decided to ruin his stellar career by becoming a fossil fuel paid shill and a laughing stock who had to resign his Emeritus professorship and got soundly trashed in court in April 2016 along with his fellow shills Spencer and Happer? Your eminent team relying extensively on non-peer-reviewed reports, WUWT, Think Tank Mumbo Jumbo (Cato, Heartland, etc.) got their butts handed to them such that cost of carbon pollution per ton will increase from $0.44 – 4.53 to $11 – 57. The salient points from the judicial conclusions are:22. The Administrative Law Judge concludes that Peabody failed to demonstrate that an equilibrium climate sensitivity of 1 or 1.5°C is correct.23. The Administrative Law Judge concludes that the climate sensitivity is reasonably considered to be in the 2-4.5°C range.47. The Administrative Law Judge concludes that Peabody failed to demonstrate that the relied upon process is neither peer-reviewed nor transparent.Share that with your fellow science-denier proselytizers. I bet Peabody is not only hurting from the exorbitant fees charged by your high priests but the long-term concomitant 1250% hike in carbon pollution per ton will be exacerbated as this spreads to other States. Science prevails over religious superstitions yet again!
It’s really too bad that you’re just a worthless internet troll, otherwise Lindzen could sue you for slander. But you’re just ignorant anti-science human trash that will never accomplish anything except annoying other people with your cult beliefs and slandering people with much greater minds and accomplishments than you could even dream of!
Can’t sue for truth cupcake. You can use the link and read the documents and proceedings for yourself.
Ohhh…’cupcake’! Notice the common arrogance just dripping from every one of these propaganda tantrums thrown by the climate change believers. Keep these pieces of arrogant human trash as far away from the wealth and power they seek as possible. You will not like the world we live in if they succeed!
Your jejune, pleonastic, truculent jeremiads are embarrassing for Team Science Denial.
Somebody’s mommy bought them a thesaurus app for their birthday!!!
Your disdain and ineptitude for science also covers English. I am assuming your parents are every bit as stupid, ignorant, superstitious and uneducated as you are and, therefore, are proud of their little bundle of rétard?
Ahhh…the Alamo of the warmist cult…”you’re a stupid-head”!
Oh NOES! Are we all going to freeze to death NOW?
Nope. Solar has been cooling for the past 25 years. We know why it won’t cool.
Just like with all articles related to the climate change scam we have
one fanatic/idiot on here spamming every comment with their lies and
propaganda. Only two possibilities here; he’s a troll paid pennies to
spend all day spamming -or- he’s actually so stupid that he thinks he’s
fighting to ‘save the planet’. I actually think Leftwithnobrain is one
of those laughable pieces of human trash who bought into the whole
climate change scam because it gives meaning to his otherwise worthless
and insignificant life..
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and a scam?A. Because they are uneducated, nescient, science-deniers, of course and are those kids that always lose, and rather than getting better, they just claim everyone else cheats or it’s a conspiracy to fool them.
..The really laughable point is that when this idiot types his drivel like that above, think about the fact that he is saying these ridiculous pathetic statements about people like Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen – and thousands of other scientists who are accomplished and respected leaders and visionaries in their fields. YOU on the other hand are nobody. A worthless pathetic comment section troll on the internet.
Projection of personal fault is puerile.
Notice how the internet troll has no intelligent response, typical when they lose an argument.
You can have the highest IQ on the planet … without education, knowledge and experience you will remain ignorant as you so perfectly demonstrate.
Imagine this piece of anti-science internet trash calling Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen and the thousands of other scientists who have debunked the climate change scam ‘ignorant’! Seems like every one of these climate change dolts has the same superman complex with a healthy dose of narcissism throw in the make them truly repulsive!
I don’t see either of those two up for a Nobel prize that would be awarded for the greatest discovery in modern physics that would overturn 200 years of science. So where to you act out your deluded fantasies besides the internet? Richard Lindzen the climate science denier has been shown to be fraud. He accepts money from the fossil fuel industry despite lying about it for years. You’ll be surprised to find out that he supports AGW theory, too.
~~~
“My life as a climate lukewarmer”
http://bit.ly/1DcP7Nd
~~~
“Critical Thinking on Climate Change”
http://1.usa.gov/1PqAEWo
~~~
“The origins of the corruption of science: Climate Science: Is it
currently designed to answer questions?”
http://bit.ly/1GFzC1y
~~~
“The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse: Save the Earth, Punish Human
Beings”
http://amzn.to/1OuUY9U
~~~
“Tell me why”
http://bit.ly/1k14BjX
~~~
“Global Warming ‘Fabricated’ by NASA and NOAA”
http://bit.ly/1pDQkbx
~~~
“Massive Alteration Of NASA Temperature Data Since 1999”
http://bit.ly/1OuV0hQ
~~~
“The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal
ever”
http://bit.ly/1EPYB5d
~~~
“NASA Data Tampering Has Destroyed The Global Temperature Record”
http://bit.ly/1NDSBBs
~~~
“1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW
Alarmism” http://bit.ly/1ghTKuv
~~~
“The Great American Bubble Machine” (BUBBLE #6 Global Warming):
http://rol.st/1aFG9Pu
~~~
“Chain of Environmental Command: How a Club of Billionaires and Their
Foundations Control the Environmental Movement and Obama’s EPA”
http://1.usa.gov/1LimNwc
~~~
“United Nations Admits Climate Change Is About Undoing Capitalism”
http://bit.ly/1L92h3h
~~~
“We should all want to be wise and careful stewards of the beautiful
planet we call home. But…”
http://green-agenda.com/
So you are gullible and easily duped and can’t figure out why their is no Nobel (or any physics or climate science awards/prizes) in their future. You’re either very afraid of reality or your pugnacious disdain and ineptitude for science turns you into a garrulous and truculent wimp.
Partial list of scientists who do NOT support the Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change Scam…look at all the Nobel Prize winners…
A.J.
Tom van Loon, PhD
Aaron Klug, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Abdus Salam, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Adolph Butenandt, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Al Pekarek, PhD
Alan Moran, PhD
Albrecht Glatzle, PhD
Alex Robson, PhD
Alister McFarquhar, PhD
Amo A. Penzias, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Andrei Illarionov, PhD
Anthony Jewish, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Anthony R. Lupo, PhD
Antonino Zichichi, President of the World Federation of Scientists.
Arthur L. Schawlow, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Arthur Rorsch, PhD
Asmunn Moene, PhD
Baruj Benacerraf, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Bert Sakmann, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Bjarne Andresen, PhD
Boris Winterhalter, PhD
Brian G Valentine, PhD
Brian Pratt, PhD
Bryan Leyland, International Climate Science Coalition
Cesar Milstein, Nobel Prize (Physiology)
Charles H. Townes, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Chris C. Borel, PhD
Chris Schoneveld, MSc (Structural Geology)
Christian de Duve, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Christopher Essex, PhD
Cliff Ollier, PhD
Daniel Nathans, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
David Deming, PhD (Geophysics)
David E. Wojick, PhD
David Evans, PhD (EE)
David Kear, PhD
David R. Legates, PhD
Dick Thoenes, PhD
Don Aitkin, PhD
Don J. Easterbrook, PhD
Donald A. Glaser, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Donald Parkes, PhD
Douglas Leahey, PhD
Dudley R. Herschbach, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Edwin G. Krebs, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Erwin Neher, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Frank Milne, PhD
Fred Goldberg, PhD
Fred Michel, PhD
Freeman J. Dyson, PhD
Garth W. Paltridge, PhD
Gary D. Sharp, PhD
Geoff L. Austin, PhD
George E. Palade, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Gerald Debreu, Nobel Prize (Economy)
Gerhard Herzberg, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD
Hans Albrecht Bethe, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Hans H.J. Labohm, PhD
Harold E. Varmus, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Harry M. Markowitz, Nobel Prize (Economics)
Harry N.A. Priem, PhD
Heinrich Rohrer, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Hendrik Tennekes, PhD
Henrik Svensmark, physicist
Herbert A. Hauptman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Horst Malberg, PhD
Howard Hayden, PhD
I. Prigogine, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Ian D. Clark, PhD
Ian Plimer, PhD
Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize (Physics)
James J. O’Brien, PhD
Jean Dausset, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Jean-Marie Lehn, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Jennifer Marohasy, PhD
Jerome Karle, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Joel M. Kauffman, PhD
Johan Deisenhofer, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
John Charles Polanyi, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
John Maunder, PhD
John Nicol, PhD
Jon Jenkins, PhD
Joseph Murray, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Julius Axelrod, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Kai Siegbahn, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian
Academy of Sciences
Klaus Von Klitzing, Nobel Prize (Physics)
L. Graham Smith, PhD
Lee C. Gerhard, PhD
Len Walker, PhD
Leon Lederman, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Linus Pauling, Nobel Prize (Chemistry
Lord Alexander Todd, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Lord George Porter, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Louis Neel, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Lubos Motl, PhD
Madhav Khandekar, PhD
Manfred Eigen, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Marcel Leroux, PhD
Marshall W. Nirenberg, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Max Ferdinand Perutz, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Nils-Axel Morner, PhD
Olavi Kärner, Ph.D.
Owen Chamberlain, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Pierre Lelong, Professor
Pierre-Gilles de Gennes, Nobel Prize (Physics)
R. Timothy Patterson, PhD
R. W. Gauldie, PhD
R.G. Roper, PhD
Raphael Wust, PhD
Reid A. Bryson, Ph.D. D.Sc. D.Engr.
Richard Laurence Millington Synge, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Richard Mackey, PhD
Richard R. Ernst, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Richard S. Courtney, PhD
Richard S. Lindzen, PhD
Rita Levi-Montalcini, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Roald Hoffman, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Robert H. Essenhigh, PhD
Robert Huber, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Robert M. Carter, PhD
Robert W. Wilson, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Roger Guillemin, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Ross McKitrick, PhD
Roy W. Spencer, PhD
S. Fred Singer, PhD
Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist Harvard
Salomon Kroonenberg, PhD
Sherwood B. Idso, PhD
Simon van der Meer, Nobel Prize (Physics)
Sir Andrew Fielding Huxley, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Sir James W. Black, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Sir John Kendrew, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Sir John R. Vane , Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Sir John Warcup Cornforth, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Sir. Nevil F. Mott, Nobel Prize Winner (Physics)
Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD
Stanley Cohen, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Stephan Wilksch, PhD
Stewart Franks, PhD
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, PhD
Tadeus Reichstein, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Thomas Huckle Weller, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Thomas R. Cech, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Timothy F. Ball, PhD
Tom V. Segalstad, PhD
Torsten N. Wiesel, Nobel Prize (Medicine)
Vincent Gray, PhD
Walter Starck, PhD (marine science; specialization in coral reefs and
fisheries)
Wibjorn Karlen, PhD
Willem de Lange, PhD
William Evans, PhD
William Happer, physicist Princeton
William J.R. Alexander, PhD
William Kininmonth M.Sc., Head of Australia’s National Climate Centre and a
consultant to the World Meteorological organization’s Commission for
Climatology
William Lindqvist, PhD
William N. Lipscomb, Nobel Prize Winner (Chemistry)
Willie Soon, astrophysicist Harvard
Yuan T. Lee, Nobel Prize (Chemistry)
Zbigniew Jaworowski, PhD
Zichichi, PhD
Nice list … useless without their peer-reviewed climate science papers. Did you copy that from the phone book?
Freeman Dyson: a brilliant physicist who many regard as
Einstein’s successor:
http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2013/04/climatologists_are_no_einstein.html
Harrison H. Schmitt and william happer: Mr. Schmitt, an adjunct
professor of engineering at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, was an Apollo
17 astronaut and a former U.S. senator from New Mexico. Mr. Happer is a
professor of physics at Princeton University and a former director of the
office of energy research at the U.S. Department of Energy:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323528404578452483656067190
*49 Former NASA Scientists Send A Letter Disputing Climate
Change
http://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-scientists-dispute-climate-change-2012-4#ixzz35gYussx7
*60 Scientists call on Harper to revisit the science of global
warming
Open Kyoto to debate
http://www.nationalpost.com/story.html?id=3711460e-bd5a-475d-a6be-4db87559d605
Open letter to UN Secretary-General: Current scientific
knowledge does not substantiate Ban Ki-Moon assertions on weather and climate,
say 125-plus scientists:
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/11/29/open-climate-letter-to-un-secretary-general-current-scientific-knowledge-does-not-substantiate-ban-ki-moon-assertions-on-weather-and-climate-say-125-scientists/
‘Consensus’ Takes Another Hit! More than 60 German Scientists
Dissent Over Global Warming Claims! Call Climate Fears ‘Pseudo ‘Religion’; Urge
Chancellor to ‘reconsider’ views [Update: August 9, 2009: Organizers released
the names of 64 more scientists who endorse the Open Letter. This brings the
total number of skeptical German scientists who signed the letter to over 130.]
http://testclimate.wpengine.com/2009/08/04/update-consensus-takes-another-hit-more-than-60-german-scientists-dissent-over-global-warming-claims-call-climate-fears-pseudo-religion-urge-chancellor-to-reconsider-views/
SPECIAL REPORT: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent
Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore ::: The well
over 1,000 dissenting scientists are almost 20 times the number of UN
scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for
Policymakers:
http://testclimate.wpengine.com/2010/12/08/special-report-more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-manmade-global-warming-claims-challenge-un-ipcc-gore-2/
http://cfact.org/pdf/2010_Senate_Minority_Report.pdf
Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change
“Global warming” is not a global crisis
http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?Itemid=54
CLIMATE EXPERTS WHO SIGNED MANHATTAN DECLARATION
The following 206 Manhattan Declaration endorsers are climate science
specialists or scientists in closely related fields (this is a subset extracted
from the other lists):
http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=66&Itemid=1
*4000 Scientists sign ‘The Heidelberg Appeal’
The Heidelberg Appeal was signed by 425 members of the scientific and intellectual
community skeptical of the claims of the global warming alarmists that warming
was a scientifically verifiable event. A version of the Heidelberg Appeal was
published in the June 1, 1992 Wall Street Journal over the signatures of 46
prominent scientists and other intellectuals. It has subsequently been endorsed
by some 4,000 scientists, including 72 Nobel Prize winners
http://heartland.org/sites/default/files/sjmc24e00.pdf
*105 Scientists sign The Leipzig Declaration on Global Climate
Change
http://sovereigntyonline.org/p/clim/leipzig97.htm
The Cornwall Alliance
An Evangelical Declaration on Global Warming
http://www.cornwallalliance.org/2009/05/01/evangelical-declaration-on-global-warming/
http://www.cornwallalliance.org/2009/05/01/signers-of-an-evangelical-declaration-on-global-warming/
Alarmists Got it Wrong, Humans Not Responsible for Climate
Change: CERN
http://www.ibtimes.com/alarmists-got-it-wrong-humans-not-responsible-climate-change-cern-307636
*116 Scientists Rebuke Obama as ‘Simply Incorrect’ on Global
Warming
http://www.cato.org/special/climatechange/cato_climate.pdf
Over 100 Prominent Scientists Warn UN Against ‘Futile’ Climate
Control Efforts
“Significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the
hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming.”
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=d4b5fd23-802a-23ad-4565-3dce4095c360
Nice list … useless without their peer-reviewed climate science papers. Which science denier site duped you into copying that BS? You see Happer on your list … he’s never published in climate science and lost big time in Minnesota court that I gave you earlier? You’re one sad pathetic nescient cretin and sure know how to pick losers.
Is Al Gore your buddy?
BTW: Has anyone seen Al lately???
Your fascination with Al Gore (who is not a climate scientist but somehow owns you on the topic) does exactly nothing to address the core physical basis for global warming. The simple fact that CO₂ traps radiant heat close to the planet’s surface, and more CO₂ means more trapped heat.The greenhouse effect was discovered in 1824, well over a century before Al Gore was even born. Do a little research sometime. It’s all a long nearly 200 year con by science started by scientists demonstrating that increased atmospheric CO₂ causes the global temperature to increase. Among them, Joseph Fourier in 1824 and 1827; Eunice Foote 1856; John Tyndall in 1859; Svante Arrhenius in 1896; C.J. Fox in 1909; A. Ångström in 1918; Chamberlain and Fowle in 1916; E.O. Hulburt in 1931; S.G. Callendar in 1937; Professor Gilbert Plass in 1956; Stephen Hawking in 1960; Isaac Asimov in 1968; Carl Sagan in 1972; Wally Broecker in 1975; Richard Feynman and “The Jasons” in 1980; and over 660 science organizations in more than 35 countries without even one successful challenge or dissent or alternate hypothesis or model using the mountain of available consilient evidence.
I have NO fascination with the Fool Gore who didn’t even carry his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election.Why should I do research when all you leffterd pseudo genisus’s can rant and rave . L00K UP what the climate guy in the UN said about Global warming, if you know how>?<
Oh no, that dang Global Climate Change has affected the sun too. Will those pesky humans creating tiny fraction increase of a gas that makes up 0.04% of the earths’ atmosphere never cease? Now they have damaged the sun as well.
Gorebull Warming………not so much.
Wasn’t our planet supposed to explode a few months ago? God really does have a sense of humor.
i think this is the Maunder Minimum and if it lasts 3-5 solar cycles, it’s going to get a lot colder.
Last time we had a 3 solar cycle minimum was 1950-1980.
In Maryland 179 out of 365 days the total record daily low temperature was recorded between 1950 and 1980; with an additional 12 record lows 2 years on either side of the 1950-1980 span.
Coincidently, the IPCC and the US Government use thsi same 30 year period for their baseline of average temperatures. Of course it’s hotter now; Time Magazine announced we were entering a new ice age in 1978.
Where do you get the information that we’re entering a “Maunder Minimum” and it will get colder? Paleoclimatology shows that Maunder summers didn’t differ from previous years and it wasn’t of global scale and started about 50 years into the LIA.
Just like with all articles related to the climate change scam we have one fanatic/idiot on here spamming every comment with their lies and propaganda. Only two possibilities here; he’s a troll paid pennies to spend all day spamming -or- he’s actually so stupid that he thinks he’s fighting to ‘save the planet’. I actually think Leftwithnobrain is one of those laughable pieces of human trash who bought into the whole climate change scam because it gives meaning to his otherwise worthless and insignificant life.
It is nescient cretin gainsayers like you who chose to read and find malice intent in my comments rather than the knowledge they contain. Suck my balls I am who I am.
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and a scam?A. Because they are uneducated, nescient, science-deniers, of course and are those kids that always lose, and rather than getting better, they just claim everyone else cheats or it’s a conspiracy to fool them.
-The really laughable point is that when this idiot types his drivel like that above, think about the fact that he is saying these ridiculous pathetic statements about people like Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen – and thousands of other scientists who are accomplished and respected leaders and visionaries in their fields. YOU on the other hand are nobody. A worthless pathetic comment section troll on the internet.-
Puerile projection is so passé.
Notice how the warmist trash fails to counter my point. Nothing but a pathetic anti-science internet narcissist who fell in love with himself because he is ‘fighting to save the world’. No hope for this piece of garbage!
More projection. You’re very good at this but I don’t think you should add it to expand that one-liner résumé of yours. It won’t impress anyone but your insecure self.
-Imagine this piece of anti-science internet trash calling Freeman Dyson and Richard Lindzen and the thousands of other scientists who have debunked the climate change scam ‘ignorant’! Seems like every one of these climate change dolts has the same superman complex with a healthy dose of narcissism throw in the make them truly repulsive!!!
If there’s not any published research that states exactly what you’re claiming, climate change debunked as a scam, then there are two possibilities. (a) No one has shown this in the research, and there’s an opportunity to publish an important paper, or (b) no one else working in the field agrees with your conclusions.
There is plenty of scientific research that has debunked every single aspect of the climate change scam. It’s just that the dangerous fanatics and criminals worshiping this new climate change religion refuse to read anything that contradicts (blasphemy) their beliefs.
1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html
Before accepting any criticisms of this list, please read the detailed rebuttals.
~
Criticism: The list has been debunked, discredited or refuted.
Rebuttal: The list has never been debunked, discredited or refuted, as all known criticisms of this list have been rebutted or a change made to correct the issue. The existence of a criticism does not make it true, as invalid criticisms of the list have been repeatedly shown to be based on lies, misinformation or strawman arguments. In most cases these long rebutted criticisms are now years old and have no relation to the current version of the list. Changes include; clarifications and corrections made to the list when necessary. All corrections made have been insignificant and have never affected the list count.
Criticism: The list has not been peer-reviewed.
Rebuttal: The list is a resource not a scholarly paper. Bibliographic resources are not peer-reviewed but curated by an editor. They are used as aids in locating information, in this case peer-reviewed papers supporting skeptic arguments.
Criticism: The list has been cherry picked.
Rebuttal: This is absolutely false, as the list does not discriminate between competing skeptical viewpoints and the purpose of the list is clearly stated, “To provide a resource for peer-reviewed papers that support skeptic arguments against ACC/AGW or Alarmism and to prove that these papers exist contrary to claims otherwise.” Using this logic the IPCC reports are “cherry picked” because they failed to included most of these papers.
Criticism: The list does not present a scientific argument.
Rebuttal: The list is a resource not a scientific argument. The purpose of the list is to show that peer-reviewed papers exist that support skeptic arguments and to be used as a resource to locate these papers.
Criticism: 97% of the climate science literature disagrees with the list.
Rebuttal: No 97% study exists that shows 43,950 peer-reviewed papers explicitly endorsing AGW. The largest study to date, Cook et al. (2013) attempted to categorize 11,944 abstracts (not entire papers) to their level of endorsement of AGW and found 7930 papers (66%) held no position. While only 65 papers (0.5%) explicitly endorsed and quantified AGW as +50% (Humans are the primary cause). Their methodology was so fatally flawed that they falsely classified skeptic papers as endorsing AGW, apparently believing to know more about the papers than their authors. Cook et al.’s author self-ratings simply confirmed the worthlessness of their methodology, as they were not representative of the sample since only 4% of the authors (1189 of 29,083) rated their own papers and of these 63% disagreed with their abstract ratings. All the other “97% consensus” studies: Doran & Zimmerman (2009), Anderegg et al. (2010) and Oreskes (2004) have been refuted by peer-review.
Criticism: All climate related papers not on the list endorse AGW.
Rebuttal: While there are thousands of climate related papers, only a small percentage of these even mention “Anthropogenic Global Warming”.
Criticism: Every major scientific organization disagrees with the list.
Rebuttal: Policy statements release by a handful of council members or signed by just the president of a scientific organization can speak for no one other than these few scientists. It is disingenuous to imply that the membership bodies (hundreds of thousands of members) of these scientific organizations (which never voted to approve such statements) can be used in support of these statements. Many members join scientific organizations for free access to organizational resources or discounts on journals and meetings. They may have little to no interest in the organization’s policy positions. Without a comprehensive survey or poll of every member’s position in relation to the organization’s policy statements no meaningful conclusions can be drawn.
Criticism: Some papers on the list have been debunked, discredited or refuted.
Rebuttal: The existence of a criticism does not make it true. Rebuttals to published peer-reviewed criticisms of a paper are included on the list as supplemental papers following the original. These rebuttals either completely refute the original criticism or correct for legitimate errors and show that these do not affect their original conclusions. It is not reasonable to expect these authors to waste their time responding to every alarmist blog post or comment made against their paper(s) on the Internet. Yet, according to AGW proponents peer-reviewed papers that do not agree with their alarmist position on climate change are either wrong or do not exist. This resource was created to correct this myth.
….continued below…
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html#Rebuttals
The poptech list is by now a very old, tired joke. You were duped again! Many of the authors indignantly wrote to the compiler to complain that their work was being grossly misrepresented. Many of the publications on the list are non peer reviewed nonsense. Most tellingly, not a single paper on the list offers any argument against the consensus that has not since been thoroughly discredited. That’s why it’s a consensus. Nine of the ten most cited authors on the list have links to ExonMobil-funded organizations. The tenth has co-authored several papers with Exxon-funded contributors. When you really crunch the numbers, all you really find is a small echochamber of the same individuals who pop up on every denier list and petition around. Another red flag is not one of the journals is a prestigious academic journal in it’s field. And finally your argument fails on the fallacies of reductio ad absurdum and argumentum ad numerum. Long lists might look convincing, but they’re no substitute for research that is free of fossil fuel industry bias and is taken seriously by the scientific community. BTW: there is no such science as ACC, the rebuttals are BS and none debunk every single aspect of the climate change scam!
Simple minds like yours are so easy to predict, which is why I included the rebuttals to your laughable arguments right along with the Poptech list. You are a liar, a fool and clearly a budding sociopath! I’ve been dealing with you pieces of human trash long enough to know that none of you have any ethics and quite a few of you are actually sociopaths who believe that any conduct or action is justified when you are fighting to “save the planet”.
“…Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning.
You cannot reason with a sociopath. Attempting to do so only wastes your time and annoys the sociopath…”
I care not a jot that you write what you spew. I only post to deny your ignorance for others. Suck my balls I am who I am. You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. Then seek professional help to find a cure or palliative treatment. Thanks for sharing that despite having one of the best free education systems in the world we still manage to turn out nescient cretins like you.
… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3bd173a8e131edd42ca6dc6cf63e212931b2a2dde4b7cb375dc3f62a2ad5757.jpg
.. … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b317420f54dc80dbe1312197d782a5bdab191944e2e47312fdc8899f00bde2e.jpg
Spot on
.. .. …. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de5787ab5e3c5bf704ebd7752ed62b5269aeb727fe642fdbd982296ff5a01871.jpg
.. .. .. .. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/007f66d711e1cbccddd9317fcefd27c0a8a2b60e4e526fb53c64b66f2dc99fe4.jpg
Gee whiz, does that mean that GLOBAL WARMING isn’t gonna happen, on-cue like the lefties insist?!
Don’t tell AlGore; he’s still recovering at the Funny Farm and this bad new would just set him off again, into one of his mindless, rants ‘n raves.
Of course, Hilly could use some of Al’s antics on stage . . . would liven up her brain-dead, dummy-prompter reading sessions.
I kept looking for information on the actual effect this period of calm has on earth and its inhabitants. What does it mean for us in our daily lives? I have no idea.
Lokking forward to a “Democrat Minimum” in November, 2016
The sun is wearing out.
That the sun will go completely dark has been promised in scripture. That when it relights it will even hotter for a while is promised in scripture. That God has promised a New Heaven and a New Earth is promised in God’s Word. The Creator of all that is is in control of all that is. It would do no good to escape to Mars when the sun wears out. It is the same sun that lights and warms earth.
Revelation 21:1 – “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
Psalms 115:3 – But our God [is] in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
Isaiah 45:7 – I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
1 Chronicles 29:11 – Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
Isaiah 45:6 – That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else.
For humans who decide to be part of God’s Family by being born again, he will rescue you and give you a new body not subject to death, for death will be wiped away.
1 Corinthians 10:13 – There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
Revelation 21:4 – “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
Interesting on how the sun mitigates cosmic rays.
Not too unlike a the Sun building a wall to keep out invaders.
Interesting.
Hmmm, looks like 1876, 1878, an 1879; and 1911, 1912, and 1913 are all on the same chart. How does 2007, 2008, and 2009 differ from those other sets of years so close together?!?
One comment relating to the topic. What a surprise and what a bunch of morons posting.
Lou, you read all of these comments? Wow I stand in awe of your perseverance and attention to detail.
Get a grip friendo
THE SUN IS OBVIOUSLY BEING CHANGED BY MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING AND PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR SUVs ON THE SUN. IF OBAMA HAS HIS WAY, THE SUN WILL STOP ITS NUCLEAR GENERATION OF HEAT AND BUILD WIND FARMS.
Solar wind farms
The answer is obvious: global warming. The answer is obvious: cow emissions. The answer is obvious: Donald Trump. The answer is obvious: we don’t know why the hell it does what it does, when it does, it just does.
Man like did this! Totally! Let’s all ride a bike, comrade!
There was science fiction novel some years (decades?) back about the sun reaching the end of its life, which will go out with a super-nova, ending all life on our planet and reducing the earth to a charred cinder. We’re doomed, DOOMED!
Not enough mass for that. Just a regular nova. Bad for us carbon polluters though.
I bow to your superior knowledge on this topic – thanks for the info.
Well, thank God for that, Randy. I’ll be able to sleep tonight!
I think it is a disgrace that Algore’s Chicken Little’s warnings are disregarded! After all, look what happened in Florida…OK, look what happened to the Antarctic ice cap…well, it’s likely that Conservatives are taking all of this out of context. Let’s be patient, SOMETHING Algore might come true! The world waits…
Under consequences of a solar minimum they fail to mention a cooing climate. Conversely, during periods of high sun activity, repetitive strong solar cycles, as were experienced for a century prior to the recent less active cycles, the climate would have warmed. This solar variability and its impact to the climate must be removed, along with other variables, such as ocean cycles, which have a strong effect on warming and cooling, as do volcanic aerosols, where extended episodes of clear atmosphere can have a significant warming effect just as surely as high levels of volcanic ash cools the climate, these non-Carbon climate drivers are not insignificant, and must be accounted for if we are to isolate the climate impact of CO2 alone. The reality is these non-Carbon climate variables are not modeled and warming that has occurred during the past decades is attributed solely to CO2 increase. This is simply not true.
Global Cooling to follow.
Throw another load of coal on the fire.
Clearly a case of man made global sun spot inactivity. We must quickly get off of carbon based energy to start the sun back up or we’ll all die a terrible death.
The suns output doesn’t have a perfect correlation with surface temperatures. It isn’t how much radiation the sun puts out, it is how much radiation reaches the earth, especially the oceans that matters. A hot sun and extreme cloud cover or a volcano could result in a cooling earth, much like pulling the shade can cool a room on a hot summer day.
There is an error in your posit. You can’t have extreme cloud cover and cooling and particulate in the atmosphere simultaneously … that’s not possible scientifically.
Says who? Just look up year w/o a summer, Mt Tamboura? Cosmic rays are also thought to seed clouds.
So did the year w/o summer have extreme cloud cover? Particulate causes moisture to condense out of the atmosphere. When temperatures fall there is less WV and it’s a very short residency and condensing GHG. Less WV means less clouds. Physics works against your posit.
The thought that the white American middle class is going to pay that sorry communist community chain smoking bolshavick baboon 400,000 a year in retirement for wrecking the industrial economy in Ohio river valley make my ass hurt. This globalist shill has destroyed the coal and rail industry . Let the Chinese gut our steel industry , while that monkey faced Queen of Sheba has troll the planet rubbing here ape ass all over 5star hotels ? They will have shovel the DIPPIDY DOO out the White House , what a screwed up mess.
“And there will be signs in the heavens.”
Yes prophesy is great for edification. We all know where fear originates.
It’s all those damn SUVs driving around on the Sun. Hillary will fix it – she just needs to add about $10 Trillion in taxes to do it. (Oops. Forgot to take my sarcasm pills today. Nurse!)
With the effect CO2 has on farming one would almost think global warming was designed to make sure Earth could sustain a continuously growing population? Naw, none of that metaphysical foil hat wearing.
What is this secret information that you have about the effect of farming? I can’t find that in the peer-reviewed science.
Let me educate you real quick, plants require CO2 in order to survive. If the level of CO2 is too low plants will die. If this level is raised it will cause the plants to grow faster, allowing for more harvests per season. I know millennial socialists have a tough time understanding science that is not directly related to sociology, but you can trust me, CO2 makes plants grow.
I understand your first two sentences. But the rest of your comment is pure junk science and fabrication, so I can’t trust you. If you want me to trust you … you will have to point to the peer-reviewed science that supports your assertions. Please proceed …
Lol, whatever you say kiddo <3
You just go sit in your echo chamber and feel safe while the world spins around you.
I’ll take that as your admission and concession that you cannot point to the peer-reviewed science to support your fabrications.
A concession that CO2 does not affect plants? you’re an idiot. I feel bad for you, a mentally weak person who thinks he’s smart….
You have conceded by default by not providing the evidence to support your false assertions. So until you can muster up the courage to do so … you’re conceded that you’re wrong. There’s a plethora of published science on the topic so I am very suspicious why you are shying away.
I realize by now most people know that Global Warming is a myth, (which this article helps explain). I cannot wait until everyone realizes its idiot cousin, Climate Change, is also a myth – though in a different way.
Man Made Global Warming is like 7 Up, ‘Never had it, never will.’ Climate Change is ‘Always had it, Always will.’ It is a natural phenomena that has been occurring ever since we have had a climate that could change. Climate Change is constant. The climate changes every second of every day. Needless to say, this is not man’s fault.
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and myth?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
BTW: the climate doesn’t change every second of every day … that’s weather and you learned the difference in grade 3 if you were educated in the USA.
—The really laughable point is that when this idiot types his drivel
like that above, think about the fact that he is saying these
ridiculous pathetic statements about people like Freeman Dyson and
Richard Lindzen – and thousands of other scientists who are accomplished
and respected leaders and visionaries in their fields. YOU on the other
hand are nobody. A worthless pathetic comment section troll on the
internet.—
Lindzen the disgraced fossil fuel shill?
Only disgraced to cult members like you who slander anybody who disagrees with your anti-science beliefs. Richard Lindzen is more respected and accomplished that you ever will be – and you just hate that don’t you!!!
So why did he resign his emeritus professorship … an almost unheard of action in the halls of academia unless gross fraud or negligence or felony?
I suspect that since academia is addicted to government research grants that Richard Lindzen’s role in debunking the climate change scam was viewed as incompatible with the strategy of getting more taxpayer $$$ to try and prop up the collapsing climate change scam. Either he left because his ethics would not allow him to participate in the scheme or they came to a mutual agreement to allow him to leave under a restrictive confidentiality clause.
He resigned to prevent being fired. The faculty and his peers spoke loudly and clearly. He left a long career like a rabid dog with it’s tail between its legs and slunk off in shame. Almost as big a disgrace when he lost so badly in Court in April this year. And this is your hero.
That really puts things into perspective
Is the weather part of the climate? Yes, of course it is. Does the weather change every second of every day? Yes of course it does. Does the earth as a whole go through periods of warm, cold, rain, drought, wind, calm, you name it? Yes, of course it does. Do plants (or animals, for that matter) effect the climate? Yes, of course they do, yet plants are constantly morphing into new plants, creating new ecologies.
To repeat to the the science-propagandists, the Climate changes every second of every day. This, of course, means that it is not man’s fault. To say otherwise does not make you a science denier, it makes you a science liar.
Is the weather part of the climate? False. You may want to use that Google search tool before you keep making grade 3 science errors.
Science liars will do or say anything, no matter how stupid, but still, keep it up. Using invective to try to prove your point doesn’t help. (But it will make all your friends think you are super cool and you will get more likes on FB, so please, please, continue.)
Weather is not climate and vice versa. Sorry cupcake you were taught that from the 3rd grade onwards if you went to school in the USA. You have broadband … stop letting Team Denial down with stupid and dumb comments that are so easily refuted. At least try and put more effort in and conjure up BS that is a challenge.
I realize reading and comprehension is difficult, but please show me where I said Weather is Climate, or vice versa?
Is the weather part of the climate? Yes, of course it is. The climate changes every second of every day/weather change every second of every day
Correct, weather is part of the climate.
To repeat from a recent post, ‘Climate: the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region…’
Really, you should just delete all of your posts on this. You are embarrassing yourself and all of your Leftist kin.
weather is part of the climate False. Weather will give you a 1:100 or 1,000 year storm climate can’t tell you anything about that. Climate changes slowly over decades … weather can go from storm to clear in minutes. Climate can only give the average of all physical properties whereas weather gives the actual. Climate can’t tell you the temperature in NYC next year but it can tell you the mean.
Why am I arguing with this idiot? He is a far Left troll who fancies himself intelligent. I notice that he does not get many likes, probably because the things he says are so stupid. Maybe if I like his post he will go away and bother someone else… Hope springs eternal.
The idiot is the one who says science is a myth and that wasn’t me. Or that climate and weather are the same. Or the one who denies reality and says global warming is a myth when we spend billions of dollars on satellites and other technology that tells us a different story to what you sprout. Only an idiot could write “Do plants (or animals, for that matter) effect the climate? Yes, of course they do” When only one animal (humans) are impacting climate and no others or plants are involved in changing the climate. Extant adapts to climate not vice versa. Your knowledge of science is worse than pitiful. Did you even graduate middle school or are you just another red state idiot running your mouth?
Science is a myth? Is the half-wit now a half squared wit, or is that even too complimentary? Dear Half Squared Wit. I ‘liked’ your post, but that is all I am going to do. You got one like.
On the other hand, you are a warning beacon to all. Do not drink the Leftish Kool-aid, else you too will face brain rot. I withdraw my request. Dear Left without a brain, please keep posting me. You are a gift that keeps on giving.
Science has no ideology. What bothers me more about the real morons who feed you this tripe is that we are launching ourselves into a new planet equilibrium that is unfriendly to our (human) and most of extant existence.
Global Warming didn’t work. Climate Change is proving to be a bust. Now it’s a ‘new equilibrium’.
That is going to fail as well because, like Climate Change which is constant, everyday finds us in a ‘new equilibrium’. It will also fail because it sounds even more vacuous than Climate Change.
Yet, again, please, please continue. It is one of the funnier things I’ve heard Earth Mothers say. I can see it now, Chicken Littles running around crying, ‘The Equilibrium is falling! The Equilibrium is falling!’
God, not this ancient trope again. It was Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster, who advocated calling it “climate change” because it seemed less threatening. And the climate has indeed been changing over time, but not over the last few thousands of years, and never near as fast. And while CO₂ may have been a following indicator in the past, it is the leading cause at this time, as has been understood by atmospheric physicists for decades.
No, we never called it Climate Change. We still call it Global Warming. Or is it New Equilibrium? You are awesome. Your complete denial of history is as self defeating as your denial of the definition of climate, as your belief that using invective helps your argument. We know because CO2 is an indicator of it. (It being Climate Change? Global Warming? A falling Equilibrium?)
PS: Wrong. You went to Climate Change when the sun quieted and Global Warming stopped. You needed to call it something else. Something to strike terror in the hearts and minds of unthinking Liberals everywhere.
This is fun.
Take it up with Frank Luntz cupcake. Science has always referred to global warming and cooling as those natural cycles have been known for over 200 years. Everyone now knows CC implies the current unprecedented and unnatural warming.
Everyone know Global Warming is a fantasy cooked up by Liberals to scare other Liberals into voting to give Liberals more power and money. Ditto of Climate Change. Ditto for Black Lives Matter and Code Pink. Emotionally unstable Liberals scaring other emotionally unstable Liberals.
Morons know that if you add external CO₂ to the atmosphere it causes the surface of the Earth to warm. Are you suggesting that you’re not smarter than a moron?
As you seem an expert on being a moron, I shall defer to your expertise.
Projection of personal fault is puerile.
Seriously? You start going on about what morons do and don’t know and then you want to deny such knowledge. I accept that you are less than a half squared wit, but apparently you also have dementia. Liberals around Disqus are crying in their light beer tonight reading your posts.
Let me help with a definition of Climate from Dictionary.com: “the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.”
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/climate
Feel the burn. I hope it sustains you.
The definition counters everything you have been writing and confirms what I pointed out. The salient part is ” averaged over a series of years.” Now if you had gone to science for your definition you would have found it explained that it was the mean pattern over 30 years. Climate projects, weather predicts. Climate is that straight line you see on temperature, rainfall, etc graphs. Weather is the noise that you see on either of the straight line. Weather is what you experience. Climate is the pattern.
There continued employment depends on sustaining the scam.
…
~~~
“My life as a climate lukewarmer”
http://bit.ly/1DcP7Nd
~~~
“Critical Thinking on Climate Change”
http://1.usa.gov/1PqAEWo
~~~
“The origins of the corruption of science: Climate Science: Is it
currently designed to answer questions?”
http://bit.ly/1GFzC1y
~~~
“The Fanaticism of the Apocalypse: Save the Earth, Punish Human
Beings”
http://amzn.to/1OuUY9U
~~~
“Tell me why”
http://bit.ly/1k14BjX
~~~
“Global Warming ‘Fabricated’ by NASA and NOAA”
http://bit.ly/1pDQkbx
~~~
“Massive Alteration Of NASA Temperature Data Since 1999”
http://bit.ly/1OuV0hQ
~~~
“The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal
ever”
http://bit.ly/1EPYB5d
~~~
“NASA Data Tampering Has Destroyed The Global Temperature Record”
http://bit.ly/1NDSBBs
~~~
“1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW
Alarmism” http://bit.ly/1ghTKuv
~~~
“The Great American Bubble Machine” (BUBBLE #6 Global Warming):
http://rol.st/1aFG9Pu
~~~
“Chain of Environmental Command: How a Club of Billionaires and Their
Foundations Control the Environmental Movement and Obama’s EPA”
http://1.usa.gov/1LimNwc
~~~
“United Nations Admits Climate Change Is About Undoing Capitalism”
http://bit.ly/1L92h3h
~~~
“We should all want to be wise and careful stewards of the beautiful
planet we call home. But…”
http://green-agenda.com/
Yes it is. Agenda 21
why would people use a scientific article to bring politics in to it? Like Obama has control of sun spots!
Like humans have control of the planet’s climate! Absurd, isn’t it?
You know that it is written in Scripture that we would see signs in the heavens that the return of the Lord would be imminent. Perhaps the lack of sunspots is one of these signs?
Fairy tales have meaning?
Only four types of people are still pushing this collapsing climate change scam; liars, thieves, fanatics and the ignorant (vast majority). The liars crave power and drastic societal/economic change, the thieves seek wealth, the fanatics have fallen for another “the end of the world as we know it” scam and live in a fantasy world where they are heroes fighting to save the planet, and the ignorant are mostly just misguided and misinformed average citizens who think they are being environmentally responsible by believing in this horrific and destructive criminal scam.
Off-topic as usual.
Butt-hurt sociopath…as usual.
You should go back to HuffMyPost and ThinkNothing.org where they think you’re smart!!!
Projection of personal fault is puerile.
An article about solar activity = lots of childish anti-Clinton comments??? OH…..Drudge!
The Clintons are the perfect foil for jokes about solar inactivity. Maybe she sold the sunspots for cash money?
Shut up Neegro, vote for Hillary and watch ISIS take over, that B wants to bring 500,000 more of those dirty Muslims into the country. Everyone gets all upset when terrorists attack, but everyone ignores this fact when supporting that B and we’ll likely be fighting them with our hands, cause you know that B going for the guns snd our freedoms. But go on ahead, follow the trend and be stupid.
What is the effect on weather &/or global warming/cooling?
Impossible to tell since Obama classified archived NWS data claiming national security.
He can’t allow those pesky facts to get out, now can he?
That is curious? Why is NWS data classified?
For our own good, now go to sleep children. It is because climate agenda 21 is a massive fraud.
The department of energy, under the guidance of Nurmberg educated physicist dr. Ernest Moniz, has made it quite clear that agenda 2030 will be implemented.
I would assume a physicist like dr Ernest Moniz would know that ” global dimming” is an endothermic event, it traps heat. I also suspect the good doctor is aware that metal aerosols injected into the atmosphere cause stratification and reduce natural rainfall.
We must be headed for an ICE AGE. (Global Warming religious nuts… you are so wrong!)
Global warming on earth is causing this. I just read the report from Chicken Little.
petty insignificant humans…..The SUN is your climate……”whose your Daddy”
. . . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/017470961e460e45fb40c9fc771a6f0ad018ee1d29dad18075bf9304adc249e2.jpg
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6140691eaa702c4eaea2e98ffcdf6dfddcb68f05da7c5f159ea0facef7f1c8b6.jpg
That’s interesting about the lower sunspot activity being responsible for a cooling atmosphere, in turn making it easier for satellites to stay up. That means it will take less fuel to get and keep Hillary in orbit. I’m all for saving gas whenever I can.
I’m a racist! Unconsciously, if not consciously, we are all racists. We live in a racist culture. The goofy ones are those who don’t get this yet.
There’s only one race friend, human.
Maybe its our green house gases that are saving us from an impending ice age.
We are in an ice-age.
I thought we were continuing to come out the so-called ‘little ice age.’
We are in an interglacial period and came out the glacial period about 20 ka ago.
20 ka?? what is ka?
20,000 years.
Of course. Seems like you are not aware of the little ice age. That ended about 200 years ago.
LIA was neither global nor geosynchronous.
So what? It still happened.
Gross ignorance on steroids.
The LIA, as you call it, did occur. Like real ice ages (and like the warming since the end of the LIA) it was due to the Sun’s general emission of warming energy. What ignorance are you referring to?
I was making a small joke that maybe man made greenhouse gases might end up saving the planet by holding in heat as the Sun heads into another low energy phase. I say small joke because it may be correct.
Bush did it?!
I’m loving this. It’s like somebody picked up the rock that all of the people that watch Fox and listen to Rush lived under. They’ve all come running out and are following the Dear Leader. This is actually quite a bit of fun.
Hail Obama !
for he means well (we have complete insight of that) and he has the okay skin color
What the hael are you talking about? More left wing liberal nonsense.
Dear leader is Obama. Enjoy your delusions.
Wtf are you people talking about? This is an article about the sun and in a half a dozen comments it became about political bs that is irrelevant. Take the political view to your respected forums who give a rats ass. Keep science science.
Obama is the winer pushing the global warming scam as recently as yesterday. It’s the Sun that’s effecting the temperature. We’re likely heading into a mini ice age (Maunder minimum).
Jesus H…. your reading comprehension…. I’m so sorry
Do you actually know anything about solar cycles?
I know enough about them to know that Obama or any other being, as far as we know, can physically manipulate the atmosphere of an entire planet, or solar system for that matter, in the span of 8 years. Shit humans have been trying it for a hundred plus, I.e. industrial revolution and beyond, and we’ve raised the global temp a few degrees. A few critical degrees, but a few non the less. So do I know solar cycles? No. But i know, from actual scientist, that global warming is MOSTLY caused by humans. Not an agenda. Again, now upgraded, #keepsciencescience
Edit, changed can to can’t. (Line 3, word 2.) Apologize for the confusion.
We are in an ice-age and your Maunder information is spurious at best especially as it started 50 years after the LIA cycle started.
Exactly! Science, true science shows that AGWCC is a totally political driven agenda, not science.
Your second sentence is a non sequitur compounded by a straw man as there is no such science as AGWCC.
To say that the sun is “quiet,” are scientists observing the complete circumference of it? The photos appear to be showing only the hemisphere facing earth. Or is that the only side that matters in this phenomenon?
Yes they see the entire circumference in all wavelengths with various solar satellites.
Funny how nature smacks liberals down when it continues to do what it will and ignore their rants. Put some spots on the sun folks and I will bow down to your power to control the climate. This is a very heavily studied cycle that Gore and the troglodytes have never acknowledged. Deep breaths and center yourselves, it will all be OK or it won’t but please keep the volume down on the senseless bleating.
Science has no ideology. What bothers me more about the real morons who feed you this tripe, is that we are launching ourselves into a new planet equilibrium that is unfriendly to our (human) and most of extant existence.
Warmer is better, btw.
False. Current extant did not evolve in warmer and you have no published science showing your prejudiced opinion is valid. Most current research is showing that it will be long term negative.
Actually I do,
Bjorn Lomberg did the math for you.
Warmer is better, read the book Cool It.
Fewer people die from heat events than from cold events, agriculture does better when it is warmer, and there are fewer violent weather events.
Try reality, your fake little social justice warrior world is making you look like a fool.
The Medieval Warm Period was a time of great advancement.
Oh, wait, you guys wrote that out of the record….
Why do you never have any science to back your vacuity? Because it is pure unadulterated BS! Perhaps someone in conversation should try responding and staying on topic instead of constant puerile and overt deflection and obfuscation or start a new thread. BTW: The MCA was neither global nor geosynchronous so when you view the global data it disappears from the record or maybe you believe the planet only has one hemisphere.
Read a book.
Cool It by Bjorn Lomberg details how warmer is better.
And he’s a global warming believer…
A book is not peer reviewed science an is just someone’s opinion. Lomberg doesn’t have a sterling climate science track record because he lacks two major components … no education in climate science and a lousy track record based on fluff.
More people die from cold weather events than from warm weather events.
It’s as simple as that.
As for peer review, Mann’s bogus hockey stick was peer reviewed, and wrong.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. Most of the world’s population is centered just north of the equator and as published science and data show …. warm events kill orders of magnitude more people than anywhere else on the planet.
Published science again disagrees with you. Confirmation of the hockey stick (through 2013):
1. 1998: K. R. Briffa, et al., Influence of volcanic eruptions on Northern Hemisphere summer temperature over the past 600 years, Nature, 393, 450-455, 4 June 1998
2. 2000: T. J. Crowley, Causes of Climate Change over the Past 1000 Years, Science, 289, 270
3. 2000: S. Huang, H. N. Pollack, P. Y. Shen, Temperature trends over the past five centuries reconstructed from borehole temperatures, Nature Letts., 403, 756-758
4. 2002: C. Bertrand, et al., Climate of the last millennium: a sensitivity study, Tellus, 54,3,2210244, May
5. 2002: J. Esper, Cook, Schweingruber, Low-Frequency Signals in Long Tree-Ring Chronologies for Reconstructing Past Temperature Variability, Science, 295, 5563, pp.2250-2253, Mar. 22, 2002
6. T. M. Cronin et al., MWP, LIA, and 20th century temperature variability from Chesapeake Bay, Global Planetary Change, 36, 2003, 17-29
7. 2004: H. N. Pollack, J. E. Smerdon, Borehole climate reconstructions: Spatial structure and hemispheric averages, J. Geophys. Res., 109, D11106, 9pp, 2004
8. 2005: E. Jansen, et al., “Extracting a Climate Signal from 169 Glacier Records”, Science, 308,5722,675-677, Apr
9. 2005: A. Moberg et al. Northern Hemisphere 2,000 year Temperature Reconstruction using low and high-res proxy data
10. 2005: S. Rutherford, et al., “Proxy-Based Northern Hemisphere Temperature Reconstructions”, J.Clim,18, 2308-2329,2005
11. 2005: R. Wilson, et al., “Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low/high-resolution proxy data”, Nature,433,7026,613-617,Feb2005
12. 2006: R. D’Arrigo, et al., On the long-term context for late twentieth century warming”. J.Geophys.Res.,111(D3)
13. 2006: T. J. Osborn, K.R. Briffa, “The Spatial Extent of 20th-Century Warmth in the Context of the Past 1200 Years”.Science311(5762):841-844,2006
14. 2007: A. Moberg, et al., Ch 6: Palaeoclimate, IPCC 4th Assessment Report, 2007
15. 2007: R. Wilson, et al., “A matter of divergence:Tracking recent warming at hemispheric scales using tree ring data”, J.Geophys.Res.,112,D17103,Sept2007
16. 2007: J. Jouzel, et al., “Orbital and Millennial Antarctic Climate Variability over the Past 800,000 Years”, Science, 317,5839,793-797,Aug2007.
17. 2007: M. Ammann and E. Wahl, Climatic Change, 85, 1-2 , 71-88
18. 2007: M. N. Juckes, Millennial temperature reconstruction intercomparison and evaluation, Clim. Past, 3, 591-609, 2007
19. 2007: Wilson et al. N. Hemisphere Tree-Ring-Based Temperature Reconstruction 1750-2005, J. Geophys. Res., 112, D17103, 11 Sept.
20. 2007: E. R. Wahl, C. M. Ammann, Robustness of the Mann, Bradley, Hughes reconstruction of Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures: Examination of criticisms based on the nature and processing of proxy climate evidence, Climatic Change, 85:33-69, 2007
21. 2008: A. Moberg, R. Mohammad, T. Mauritsen, Analysis of the Moberg et al. (2005)hemispheric temperature reconstruction, Clim. Dyn. 31, 7-8, 957-971, Dec. 2008
22. 2009: D. S. Kaufman, et al., Recent Warming Reverses Long-Term Arctic Cooling, Science, 325, 1236 (2009)
23. 2009: H. von Storch, Zorita, Gonzalez-Rouco, Assessment of three Temperature Reconstruction Methods in the Virtual Reality of a Climate Simulation, Int. J. Earth Sci. , 98, 1, 2009
24/25. 2010: M.P. Tingley, P. Huybers, “A Bayesian Algorithm for Reconstructing Climate Anomalies in Space and Time. Part I: Development and Applications to Paleoclimate Reconstruction Problems”; Part II: Comparison with the Regularized Expectation-Maximization Algorithm”. J.Clim.23 (10):2759-2800,2010
26. 2010: D. Frank, et al., A noodle, hockey stick, and spaghetti plate: a perspective on high-resolution paleoclimatology, WIREs, Climate Change, 1, 4, 507-516, July/Aug. 2010
27. 2011: J. Martin-Chivelet, et al., Land surface temperature changes in Northern Iberia since 4000yrBP, based on δ13C of speleothems, Global and Planetary Change, 77,1-2, pp 1-12, 2011
28. 2011: R. F. Spielhagen, et al., Enhanced Modern Heat Transfer to the Arctic by Warm Atlantic Water, Science, 331, 6016, pp. 450-453, 2011
29. 2011: J. Oerlemans, Jan2011,Science Express Index “2500 Years of European Climate Variability and Human Susceptibility”
30. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist. et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227-240, 2012
31. 2012: R. Rohde, et al., A New Estimate of the Average Earth Surface Land Temperature Spanning 1753 to 2011, J. Geophys. Res.
32. 2012:J. Gergis, et al., “Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an AUSTRALASIAN temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium”, J. Climate
33. 2012: T. Melvin, H. Grudd, K. R. Briffa, Potential bias in ‘updating’ tree-ring chronologies using regional curve standardisation: Re-processing 1500 years of Torneträsk density and ring-width data, Holocene, Oct. 26, 2012
34. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist, et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227,240, 2012
35. 2013: N. J. Abram, et al., Acceleration of snow melt in an Antarctic Peninsula ice core during the twentieth century, Nature Geosci., 6, 404-411 (see figs. 4 and 5)
36. 2013: S. A. Marcott, et al., A Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years, Science, 8, 339, 6124, 1198-1201
Missed all the deaths in Europe?
Why are yo so fearful of facts?
Do you have such a deep psychological investment that you can only look at stuff that supports your delusions?
Increasing the temperature will result in fewer additional deaths because it will be offset by a larger reduction in cold weather deaths.
Read a book, don’t be afraid of facts.
Buffoon you haven’t a clue what you’re mumbling on about. You would be wise to look up the primary sources and do the math. Mn order of magnitude more people die in heat affected areas. it’s simple … read all the books you want but that won’t change the data. You are the most gullible dumb ill-informed science-denyingcretin I have seen in quite awhile.
Global cooling could starve a billion people off of this planet. It has already begun. Now that El Nino has passed, the next 30-50 years are going to suck. Hopefully its just a 1950 to 1970’s kind of cool down, and not a mini ice age or full blown ice age. Warm was never a threat. Cold always way and we are woefully underprepared thanks to radical anti capitalists.
“They” say the sun is about 5 billion years old. The readings “they” may have taken over the past hundred years or so give or take ain’t worth a pinch of puppy sheet as and indicator of what’ going on.
The sun is more or less the same age as the earth. The Earth is a little younger but the sun has etched a fair amount of evidence over those billions of years for us to review .. it’s called geological history.
Wow, only a couple hundred billion years left. Pass a tax to save the sun…….also pass gun control and LGBT protection laws since we know climate change affects those too!
How does Hilary Clinton, General Petreaus and Snowden wind up in a comment section about an article on the sun?
People we just need to give it up. There is only punishment for We the People. Government has a Teflon ass that lets them skate on everything. Face it we are F**KED in the USA and not a damn thing we can say or do about. Continue supporting a corrupt system until you are handing government a dollar bill for a piece of toilet paper to wipe your ass on. Since when did we let our government turn us into slaves and them start being our masters? Time for term limits or just let government have the whole country and tape our mouths shut permanently. Very sad state of affairs in the USA. Feinstein is the worst mistake that CA has ever made. When this Hillary twin bitch dies I am going to jump up and down. She should be in front of a firing squad for her own corruption. How many millions has she and her husband made off their pillow talk creating wars? Don’t talk to any of the above people about global warming, that is all a figment of our imaginations.
THIS MEANS A DECREASE IN OZONE PRODUCTION THE PROTECTS LIFE ON EARTH FROM DEADLY UV.
High levels of UV light cause skin cancer and the death of plants which means no food.
SCIENCE, WHO NEEDS IT
Screw the truth.
This must be the fault of Exxon and George Bush.
Obama is full of hot air, lies, lies and more lies.
Not that any of this will affect our weather. Ask any liberal and they will tell you that the sun is the size of a quarter, so it clearly has no affect on us here on our big planet.
Science has no ideology. What bothers me more about the real morons who feed you this tripe is that we are launching ourselves into a new planet equilibrium that is unfriendly to our (human) and most of extant existence.
We’re being punished for not giving Al Gore $10 billion to stop GlobalClimateWarmingChange.
Nothing causes CO2 reduction better than a big cash donation to the nearest snake oil salesman!
I’m wondering if a sacrifice to the sun god…. let’s say Al Gore…. might bring it back.
Obama invited the Sun to the Whitehouse for a beer.
So, what are all you AGW meatballs doing to save the planet, other than nagging us like a future ex-wife?
Got your air conditioning turned off?
Sold your car?
Turned off your computer?
Your argument is a logical fallacy known as an ad hominem tu quoque. Whether one used zero fossil fuels, or burned 14 tons of coal just for fun every day would have no impact on whether or not AGW was real. Individual actions will not solve this global problem. Ameliorating the external forcing worldwide will be needed to transition from fossil fuels to other energy producing sources. Humans should be smart enough to find workable solutions but time is of the essence.
In other words, nothing.
You nag like a petulant old shrew, but do nothing.
Your AGW theory cannot make accurate predictions, therefore the theory is garbage.
Nope. Your argument is a logical fallacy known as an ad hominem tu quoque. Here’s a challenge cupcake, AGW theory makes six predictions based on Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis that he postulated in 1896. Which one/s of the six that he made are “not accurate”. I must assume that you’re ignorant about the order of theory and hypothesis in science. If what you assert was true then AGW couldn’t be theory by definition whereas it has been accepted as such in climate science for at least 45 years. Please proceed …
Sorry, there is nothing wrong with my argument.
You missed the hundreds of doom predictions based on your theory that came up bust?
I feel sorry for you.
Seriously.
You’ve been brainwashed.
Learn to think for yourself.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/02/the-big-list-of-failed-climate-predictions/
You’re a nescient git who is either a pernicious fool, a perfidious charlatan or mendacious obscurantist. Pick one. The theory only makes six predictions. So instead of puerile deflection, as usual, please share your vast albeit very illusive knowledge …
Pro tip: Wattsupwiththat isn’t a science site. It’s a propaganda site trying to look like a science site, and failing more and more as it falls deeper and deeper into conspiracy theories and general crapola. Watts. Let that sink in for awhile. The guy who has no science background and has been wrong about just about everything he ever published. BEST ran his “grade A” station at his request, and they show the exact same warming. Watts slinked away without honoring his declaration that he’s conceded defeat if they showed the same warming. Watts has been wrong about ALL of his predictions, because he said the earth was cooling. And he was wrong about the stations and their overall reporting accuracy. He has no background in what he’s writing about, and it shows.
I feel sorry for you.
Some day you will realize, like Virginia did, that there is no Santa Claus for her, and no global warming crisis for you.
When that day comes you will have to admit you were wrong, and a patsy, and a fool, and that all your brave little social justice warrior efforts were all for nothing.
We can pile the evidence a mile high, but until you get over your pathetic little ego trip and look at that evidence, nothing will come of it.
Seriously, I do feel sorry for you and your poor gullible comrades.
You had the best intentions, but you just aren’t very smart.
As for Watts, he listed the predictions, he didn’t make them.
Your guys did.
And they are almost all dead wrong.
Which means the theory they are based on is wrong.
Weak pleonastic deflection of of off-topic vacuity. Here’s the original challenge you’re obfuscating, cupcake. AGW theory makes six predictions based on Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis that he postulated in 1896. Which one/s of the six that he made are “not accurate”. I must assume that you’re ignorant about the order of theory and hypothesis in science. If what you assert was true then AGW couldn’t be theory by definition whereas it has been accepted as such in climate science for at least 45 years. Please proceed …
I’m still waiting to see what YOU are doing to fight global warming.
Have you ripped the AC out of your house yet?
Walking to work?
No trips or holidays on airplanes?
Perhaps someone in conversation should try responding and staying on topic instead of constant puerile and overt deflection and obfuscation or start a new thread. But judging from the sparseness and lack of robustness of your science heft and sources, I’m not confidant it would amount to a compelling one.
So nothing.
All you do is nag like a shrill and ugly old ex-wife, and you make no sacrifices to save the planet.
I’m doing my bit to sequester carbon by throwing all my old newspapers in the landfill where the carbon in them will be sequestered.
Poor old disqus, they have to protect you from the truth.
Watts posted the predictions, he didn’t make them.
Your guys made them based on your theory, and they are all wrong, so your theory is wrong.
More deflection. You don’t need Watt’s to know what Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis was that he postulated in 1896. Which one/s of the six that he made are “not accurate”. It is very simple plus you have broadband and now you feign lack of knowledge. I’d wager you don’t have a clue where to begin. All hate no cattle. Please proceed …
You should take a basic science class, and learn something about the scientific process.
When your theory’s predictions are all garbage, your theory is garbage.
Why do all temperature predictions based on your theory turn out to be very very wrong?
More deflection. You shouldn’t project your lack of science on to me … I taught you that CO₂ was not plant food … something you learn from grade 3 on wards. Now you have repetitively been unable to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis? Why? You also incorrectly state that climate science made incorrect temperature predictions when climate science doesn’t predict … if you have any science knowledge you’d know that.
So all those climate scientists making climate predictions are not basing the predictions on their climate theories?
Yeah, we kinda knew that….
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection.
You are totally lost, and out of your depth.
Any theory that cannot make accurate predictions is garbage.
Do I need to show the list of failed predictions again?
Did you figure out how many trees Mann actually used to determine the temperature of the entire planet?
LOL!
I am truly amazed you do not understand just how far out to lunch that was!
Why don’t you look at all the evidence, not just what confirms your biases?
Is it a ego protection strategy?
The longer you wait to admit you have been a gigantic patsy the longer you can pretend and preen as a social justice warrior saving the world?
At some point you need to look at the science.
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. As you have failed to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
So you still can’t account for why the predictions based on the AGW theory turn out to be wrong?
I’ll give you a hint, the theory is wrong.
Why are you deflecting?
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/25-years-of-predicting-the-global-warming-tipping-point/
http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
I understand that your SJW psyche is too delicate to process contradictory evidence, but someday when you get the mental strength you should have a look….
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection. You have failed to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
I see you are having a hard time processing reality.
Your delicate mind cannot handle any evidence that does not reinforce your spoon fed climate cult dogma.
Warmer is still better.
See that?
The basic assumptions of your AGW doomsday cult are wrong.
And all the predictions and assumptions derived from that false premise are wrong too.
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection. You’ve already asked these silly questions and we are waiting for your answers and evidence to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis that have failed in your mental dwarf mind … we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
I’ve asked the questions and you are waiting for my answers?
HUH?
Nope you made false assertions and have not been able to provide evidence to support your fabrications. In fact you don’t even know what predictions were made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis and which one/s failed according to you. You’d win a Nobel if that were true so we know why you are avoiding stating the theory as all predictions are not falsifiable. Hence your proclivity for jejune deflection.
Your AGW doomsday cult is pretty cool, but the moonies had better uniforms!
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and religion/cult?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
Your AGW cult is not science based.
If it was, you would be able to explain why all of the predictions it makes are WRONG!
Science changes in the face of new evidence, your doomsday cult is stuck on stupid, and stuck with it’s record of failed predictions.
Thank you for confirming that you are neither a scientist nor scientifically literate but rather grossly and obnoxiously nescient about climate science..
Sorry, I didn’t confirm that, in fact I use science every day.
Physics and chemistry mostly.
Still waiting for you to explain all those failed predictions, and to explain that whole arctic ice thing!
Or are you walking back that tipping point nonsense?
There was absolutely no need to confirm that you are neither a scientist nor scientifically literate but rather grossly and obnoxiously nescient about climate science, as that was self-evident from the beginning.
You’re either a pernicious fool or a perfidious charlatan. Pick one. I have made no such assertion. You’re an insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity displaying rampant inferiority complexes with a very low response dopamine reward center for a great ape. Seek professional help before you do yourself or others an injury.
Yeah you did.
Denier.
What tipping point … care to share where I made that assertion? making up $h!t just confirms that you’re an insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity.
Why don’t you explain why all the predictions made by your AGW doomsday cult are wrong?
Sun was in your eyes?
Dog ate your hockey stick?
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection. You have failed to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
Tell me more about the arctic ice disappearing, that was hilarious!
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection.
Your AGW doomsday cult seems to have not provided you with enough song sheets.
Or is this descent into madness a result of you finally shedding your brave social justice warrior persona and finally admitting you have been duped by the scam artists in the AGW cult.
How much money and time did you give them anyway?
Stop deflecting and we can move on. You’re stuck on the answers to a hypothesis that grade 3 kids can answer. We can move on once you can answer your silliness. Your knowledge of science is worse than pitiful. Did you even graduate middle school or are you just another red state idiot running your mouth?
A grade three kid might be able to answer, but you can’t.
Why have all the AGW doomdsay cult predictions turned out to be wrong?
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection. We can move on to school you on other topics when you’re done with the first one that has you you stumped:
Give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Then tell us which ones were falsifiable as everyone else who has done science knows that they’re unfalsifiable and why AGW is now one of the strongest and most solid theories in physics.
Where is the latest ‘tipping point’ fairy tale to scare the children with?
Stop deflecting and we can move on. You’re stuck on the answers to a hypothesis that grade 3 kids can answer. We can move on once you can answer your silliness. Your knowledge of science is worse than pitiful. Did you even graduate middle school or are you just another red state idiot running your mouth?
I see you are completely lost, and desperately trying to avoid answering why all the AGW predictions are wrong.
Stop deflecting, man up, and face reality.
There are invertebrates with more backbone than you. There is only one deflector here and it’s you. We’re waiting. Please proceed …
My backbone is fine, unlike yours.
I think for myself, you are a parrot who knows not what he parrots.
More deflection. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection.
More deflection.
You still won’t answer why all the predictions about doom and gloom are wrong.
Warmer is better, get used to it.
More pathetic deflection. Mimicry is a sure sign that you know I have wiped the floor with your dumb a$$ … instead of wasting time flattering me why don’t you man up and provide the evidence for the crapola you spew … it’s running into days now that you’re displaying your stupidity and incompetence.
You’rehaving a bad, day: I’ve asked you several simple questions about your pathetic doomsday cult and you can’t answer any of them.
A theory that results in wrong predictions is wrong.
More deflection. There are invertebrates with more backbone than you. This insidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity can never answer a question with out deflection. Give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Then tell us which ones were falsifiable as everyone else who has done science knows that they’re unfalsifiable and why AGW is now one of the strongest and most solid theories in physics.
Shhhhhhhh
Shush there, don’t cry, you’ll find some other wild scam or cult to join.
Why are all the predictions based on your theory so wildly wrong?
Where are all the doomsday scenarios your cult predicted?
And warmer is still better.
You’re the guy desperately trying to avoid the question of why your theory’s predictions are all wrong.
Still deflecting. You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. As you have failed to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
You’ve gone totally down the rabbit hole.
Why are all those AGW temperature predictions WRONG?
Still deflecting. You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. As you have failed to give the predictions made by Arhennius’ AGW hypothesis …we’re still waiting. Do you think no one else can read your stupid comments of vacuity?
The one major effect the writer pointedly chose to not mention was the possibility of a global cooling such as what occurred during the last minimum period.
If he mentioned that he could lose his membership in the Better
Understanding of Liberal Logic and Scientific Hysteria Incontinence
Team.
BULLSHIT for short..
False. The last minimum cycle started 50 years after the LIA had started.
If he mentioned that he could lose his membership in the Better Understanding of Liberal Logic and Scientific Hysteria Incontinence Team.
BULLSHIT for short..
Seeing the headline of this article immediately struck a chord… Something tells me that the AGW hysteria that has swept (the gullible) and empowered (the Tyrannical), is about to be turned on its head…
Obama and the alarmists have robbed our citizens of billions to stop AGW. I’d love to see the lawsuits when global cooling begins in earnest.
Neither you, nor your succeeding 160 generations will be around to collect assuming your grandchildren’s generation have figured out a way to survive in a habitat that they and extant didn’t evolve in.
I’m selling “solar offset credits”, Gore, Obama and Soros are lining up to buy them.
Fascinating. Even something as simple as a ball of fire is filled with mysteries.
Get out your woolly knickers, I think we are being lied too…………….again!
No problem. All we have to do is pay more taxes for our masters to turn up the thermostat.
Must be all those fossils fuels we use causing this.
The sun’s light is what heats the earth. The solar wind and sun spots only have an effect on the outer atmosphere, which changes the strength of the Aurora, and has no effect on our climate.
But, it is, it is caused by global warming.
Looks like another little ice age is upon us..
i wonder what new ploy the Goracle will pull for money. Calling bill nye .. calling bill nye (because when I want cosmological information, i ask a guy with a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering)
Back before Nat Geo and the History Channel started to global warmify their documentaries they let one very interesting historical fact slip. The documentary on Krakatoa stated during the eruption that destroyed that island and caused a year without a summer it released more pollutants into the atmosphere than all humanity has since the beginning of history combined. Is there climate change? I recognize things are a bit warmer than they used to be. But islands haven’t disappeared (don’t even think about the Maldives, they are coral islets and they have never been over 8 feet above sea level, that’s not an island, that’s a sandbar with palm trees), the coasts haven’t flooded, the ice caps are growing thicker if not wider, and if anything it appears our own Sun is to blame.
Global Warming! Global Cooling. Climate Change. Aw, screw it-they are just going to tax the living crap out of us anyway so what difference does the excuse make?
Because letting world civilization and most of extant end, that’ll definitely save some bucks.
I guess then the environazis have the fitting name “climate change” so when it cools, they can say it is just a fluke… We are still DOOOOOMED!
Climate stagnation will be the Next Big Thing!
Can you stop with the spraying now?
Someone was predicting this in 2010
http://theweatherforums.com/archive/index.php?/topic/30500-spotless-sun-by-2016/
Im sorry for the sun thing….its my fault for being a human walking around on planet earth.
the true cause of heating cooling and climate change staring at us every day!
Homo sapiens sapiens have been around for at least 250 ka. We lived alongside and bred with Neanderthals if you have ancestors from Europe/Asia you have Neanderthal and Denisovan genes. We nearly went extinct in one of the glacials.
Wrong Homo sapiens are modern man ha be been around for just over 20,000 years while the cro magnon was around for 40,000 years where did you learn science! Boobs farm
We might be writing at cross purposes as the anatomical modern human is first found in the fossil record about 200 ka ago.
Note that Dr. Hathaway hasn’t updated his predictions since January of this year. The graph is sorely out of date. I wonder why…
Solar system change is a result of our earthly climate change activities. When are we going to learn that we are endangering the entire universe. Vote Hillary, vote Democrat!
Heh. You have no idea how many would buy that.
Would I have said it were it not so?
Happy you’re smart enough not to have. I’ll drink to you on our next full moon if it isn’t first obliterated by our solar system polluters.
The global warming alarmists will tell us the weak solar cycle is due to global warming. Sad thing is the moonbats will believe it.
we must stop this paucity of sunspots quickly before it triggers even more catastrophic climate change.I recommend a manned mission to the surface of the sun to replace missing spots. Al Gore, Obama, and Hilary ( first women on manned solar mission!!) for the crew.
My g-d will this AGW disaster never end!? It’s ELE TEOTWAWKI! This is what happens when you drive an SUV and leave your air conditioning on. Will we ever learn!?
My work is done here.
Carry on.
Not only that but red algae are running wild up on the polar ice caps according to Tech Times.If you combine that with the rising tides from melting ice caps and the sun going blank causing sea levels to rise dangerously, very soon flooding all our major coastal cities, well it’s self evident that global warming will soon cause the global destruction of the earth.
That’s above most folks pay grade here.
Well, maybe not for all of them. A lot of the brighter ones are unable to find a job.
Goodbye to “Global Warming.” Hello to “Mini Ice Age.”
Why? Care to explicate?
During the period from 1600 through 1800, dubbed the “Maunder Minimum” or “Mini Ice Age”, there were no sun spots at all to be found on the Sun, and the world experienced significantly cooler temperatures than normal. It wasn’t that people weren’t looking for them. Gallileo had discovered spots on the Sun in the 16th Century.
Something is wrong with your data … the Maunder minimum started 50 years after the LIA which in itself was not global? There is no correlation between the Maunder minimum and cooling.
Never were truer words spoken Wiley.The sun going blank means less heat. Less heat means colder weather on earth more than likely ( and I’m sure well-respected scientists differ on this ) causing as you say so eloquently a Mini Ice Age .Well this is not good. What are we going to do ? Wring our hands ? Look to Obama Hillary or Trump for answers ? No No No. Think about it. What is our God today ? Our leader ? The Computer !! Merely put all the relevant climate change material into the computer press the button and like magic the answer is there. Do as the Computer says and all will be fine. All will be fine. All will be fine. All will be fine…………………….we will avoid the anvil of death crushing us into the ground.
Actually, the great science fiction writer Isaac Asimov wrote a short story in the late 1940’s something like that entitled “The Last Question.” From time to time people throughout the ages keep asking their computers, from the earliest vacuum tube models through the later transistorized ones of the 1950’s up through mainframes of the 1970’s through PC’s of the 1990’s through hand held computers “the Last Question.” The Question is simply stated, “Can entropy be reversed?” According to Isaac Newton’s Second Law of Thermodynamics, entropy cannot be reversed. Entropy is the quality or property of energy flowing out of things or of more complicated structures being rendered over time as more simplified ones. All the computers in the story over the course of decades, centuries, millennia, ages and epochs always answer with the same reply “Too little data for a meaningful response.” Until, finally …. Oops! I almost gave away the ending!
it’s ok just keep it between you and me
The heat from the earth burns off sunspots. 99% of scientists agree so there can be no arguments. Settled science. Its obvious. No more comments will be allowed on this subject. Move on.
That statement certainly makes about as much sense as anything else about the doctrine of Anthropogenic Global Warming.
No question at all . . . this is OBAMA’S FAULT. Worst president ever!
If The Lord becomes sufficiently irked, it’s lights-out altogether…
Luckily public-spirited citizens like me are burning old tires and disconnecting our catalytic converters to help keep you Warmunist hippies from freezing.
Tell Obama to tax the sun to get it to work like he wants it?
Can’t his NASA Muslim outreach program do something to fix this?
No problem. We have a second sun to take up the slack.
https://owlcation.com/stem/Nemesis-Is-there-a-Second-Sun-in-the-Solar-System
Watch
Following Wolf’s numbering scheme, the 1755–1766 cycle is traditionally numbered “1”. Wolf created a standard sunspot number index, the Wolf index, which continues to be used today.
17:55 = 5:55
1755/5 = 351
3 x 51 = 153 = The archangel michael
153 reverse is 351
with
1 = A
26 = Z
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26 = 351
Vowels = AEIOU
1+5+9+15+21 = 51 = Michael…the angel of revelation
126
30th prime = 113 = 4th prime that adds to 5
32nd prime = 131 = 5th prime that adds to 5
64th prime = 311 = 6th prime that adds to 5
30+32+64 = 126
113+131+311 = 555
456+654 = 1110
1110/2 = 555
1110+555+126 = 1791 reverse is 1971
The year I was born
1971-1755 = 216
6 x 6 x 6 = 216
216 = Saint michael the archangel
25th and 26th solar cycles
25+26 = 51 = Michael
1941 to 1971 = spring = 3
1971 to 2001 = summer = 6
2001 to 2031 = Fall = 9
2031 = beginning of winter
20+31 = 51 = Michael or Mars which is cold
1941-30 = 1911
2031+30 = 2061
20+61 = 81 = Venus which is warm like spring in relation to winter
This is what the tool called the Internet I helped to put into your hands shows me when I use it to show me further out…
“In 2015, a new model of the solar cycle was published. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its Convection zone. Model predictions suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘Little ice age’ that began in 1645. Prior models included only the deeper dynamo.[84]
The model features paired magnetic wave components. Both components have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although their frequencies are slightly different and temporally offset. Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the Sun’s northern and southern hemispheres.[84]
The model used principal component analysis of the Magnetic field observations from the Wilcox Solar Observatory. They examined magnetic field activity from solar cycles 21-23, covering 1976-2008. They also compared their predictions to average Sunspot numbers. The model was 97% accurate in predicting solar activity fluctuations.”[84]
play time is ending…work time is beginning…
2017 there is a total eclipse in the USA…
2017-1755 = 262
262/2 = 131
131 = Hypertiger
131 = paradigm shift
A paradigm shift, as identified by American physicist and philosopher Thomas Kuhn, is a fundamental change in the basic concepts and experimental practices of a scientific discipline. Kuhn contrasted these shifts, which characterize a scientific revolution, to the activity of normal science, which he described as scientific work done within a prevailing framework (or paradigm). In this context, the word “paradigm” is used in its original meaning, as “example” (Greek: παράδειγμα).
The nature of scientific revolutions has been a question posed by modern philosophy since Immanuel Kant used the phrase in the preface to his Critique of Pure Reason (1781), referring to Greek mathematics and Newtonian physics. In the 20th century, new crises in the basic concepts of mathematics, physics, and biology, revitalized interest in the question among scholars.
The only way out of this is to pay Al Gore the $10 billion he wants to end GlobalClimateCoolingWarmingChange.
Large cash donations cause global cooling!
It’s sad (and tedious) to realize how many people view everything in the world (and apparently beyond) through their narrow, twisted, politically ideological prism.
I’m interested in the dog that’s not barking here…specifically Marc Moron and idiot minions commenting here about everything else besides the fact that severe drop in sunspot activity blows up that bullshit claim a few years back that global warming increases and decreases with solar activity!
The dog ate my global warming!
The dog should eat irrelevant stuff like Clinton vs Trump.
Hey, the dog ate her emails then Barry ate the dog.
Aw geez, another excuse for Obama’s crappy economy.
So the spots on Obama’s half white ass… wait… wrong story
Those evil non-liberal whites! Now they are blotting out the sun! We need more immigrants–such as terrorists, lesbians, and headhunters–to get us straightened out. Yeah, that’s the ticket…..
Guess there goes nibilus
Time for some new government regulations. We need to fix this.
Here is one forecast of future sunspot numbers based on multiple oscillations identified in the historic data as being highly probably. Looks to me like some cold coming later in this century if this works out as forecast..
Short version:
http://i.imgur.com/HyLJ4Hf.gif
Longer version:
http://i.imgur.com/Cna8az2.gif
All of a sudden we know everything there is to know about the sun’s most subtle sunspot cycles, but we can’t quite figure out how the sun interacts with the earth’s climate causing, dare I say, climate change!
That is a classic non sequitur. What is it do you think that is missing from our toolbox of evidence that we are unsure about or don’t know that would revise 200 years of physics?
Toolbox? You wouldn’t happen to be a government shill working for the NOAA would you?
Perhaps someone in conversation should try responding and staying on topic or start a new thread.
What topic would you like to discuss, Mr. science guy? Is it not NASA’s and the government’s official position that global warming is due to anthropogenic climate change and not that of our sun? Since we know so much about the sun, as displayed in this well-written article, why is it ignored when discussing climate change? But I digress. Let’s all talk about space junk. That’s pretty cool!
No need to deflect … just stay on topic … explicate your sun/solar/climate remark.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. Especially when it is acknowledged as a fundamental in climate science that axial orbital nutation is the prime forcing for natural internal climate change.
What a jacka$$…Thanks DISQUS for user block.
Projection of personal fault is puerile.
What good are laws if when broken the system ignores them. Clinton is but one example. Obama has misused Executive Mandates but only one has made it to the supreme court once because everyone is afraid of being called a racist to challenge it. When he tells border agents to stand down he breaks the law. When he allows sanctuary cities without penalty he ignores the law. When he fails to enforce the constitution he breaks law but only if charged. As long as charges are not brought the law is mute. The example we have set for our children is that laws are only enforced if it benefits one party otherwise just ignore it.
Wrong thread … I believe you want to to losers.com and post there. This is supposed to be for conservatives to learn about science. They’re struggling enough as it is without distraction from you.
ya’ll need to shut up. Hillary is running for president. Do you want to commit suicide against your will?
Hey you goofy “sun worshipping” liberals.
The sun DIRECTLY affects ALL WEATHER on this planet.
Now……take your carbon footprints and “shove em” where the sun don’t shine.
Science has no ideology. What bothers me more about the real morons who feed you this tripe is that we are launching ourselves into a new planet equilibrium that is unfriendly to our (human) and most of extant existence. This may come as a surprise to you but solar input is a fundamental of climate science that causes natural change due mainly to axial orbital nutation forcings.
Well, REAL science has no ideology, but what we are repeatedly seeing is JUNK science from a political agenda, namely Global Warming. It was suspicious from day one, when there was a worldwide suppression of scientists who said the facts do not show it. There was never a discussion. We only heard one side because the opposing side was silenced. That makes it JUNK science when there’s no open honest debate.
Thank you for confirming that you are neither a scientist nor scientifically literate but rather obnoxiously nescient about climate science. When you can provide some peer-reviewed science rather than fabricated denier talking points you may get somewhere.
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. Science started talking about it 200 years ago and reached consensus about 45 years ago. Sorry you didn’t get to partake but the entrance fee requires smarts, education and knowledge..
Gee…..according to my analysis of the graph, sun spot activity has reduced by about 40% in the last 100 years.
…….and this info has ZERO to do with “computer models”
What are you concluding … the planet has warmed while sunspot activity has declined … so sunspots don’t cause the current unprecedented warming?
I guess you are the last to hear it. There’s been no global warming for the last 17 years or so.
Where do you go to get duped? I can’t find what you write in published science.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/08/07/global-warming-pause-puts-crisis-in-perspective/#30bc1aca3737
You DO realize global warming has nothing to do with the science. I knew it was a scam from day one when every scientist who knew it wasn’t real, was silenced. Anything there are no facts backing up some theory, they NEVER want an open and honest debate. They did the same thing with evolution. It’s not science and has to be legislated by law instead of by facts.
Your respose is the most juvenile load of unadulterated horseSh!t I’ve seen in awhile.
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and a scam/hoax?A. Because they are uneducated, nescient, science-deniers, of course and are those kids that always lose, and rather than getting better, they just claim everyone else cheats or it’s a conspiracy to fool them.
You are the one denying the science.
Did Albert Einstein whine about relativity deniers, or did he present his theory for all to see, and for all to examine?
And when presented with a book called 100 Scientists Against Einstein he simply asked, “Why 100, all it takes is one to prove my theory wrong.”
Anyone using the term ‘global warming denier’ or ‘climate change denier’ is not familiar with science in any way.
It’s a cult.
You can’t even quote Einstein correctly how do you expect to know any science?
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and a cult?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
Yes, Einstein did understand that science is not a show of hands.
You don’t, but he did.
You are the science denier, there are over 100 climate scientists listed that explain how Mann’s work is garbage, yet you still spout it like it is gospel.
Well, to you and your cult, it is gospel.
It’s a shame to see you waste all that effort defending your bizarre cult.
To paraphrase Einstein … it only takes one to publish and show his hypothesis is false … strange that not one of your “100” have published successfully and rebutted or refuted Mann … yet there are now 42 papers and counting that validate his original paper.
Now you’re just in complete denial.
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-and-hidden-data/
Pro tip: joannenova.com isn’t a science site. It’s a propaganda site masquerading as a science site designed to dupe the gullible, uneducated and ill-informed. It falls deeper and deeper into conspiracy theories and general crapola as the unprecedented warming continues unabated driven by human-induced CO₂. Being scientifically illiterate and gullible you were successfully duped by them.
Always attacking the messenger.
She quotes Mann, and the IPPC retractions, but you are too invested in your SJW cult to notice.
Hearsay and opinion are meaningless. FYI: you were solidly duped if you believe IPCC makes retractions … care to cite the evidence from verifiable authoritative sources outside your science-denying bubble?
Well, you are right in not considering the IPCC to be a reliable source, but they have retracted their dire predictions and re-issued less dire predictions.
Or haven’t you been paying attention to current events?
Try to keep up.
IPCC is the most reliable source for interpreting climate science research. Obviously you’re clueless and ignorant to how it functions and once again present nothing but hearsay and your prejudiced feelings and opinion.
Mother Nature is paid by Big Oil….
Oh my…..this is too easy.
YOUR analysis that the planet is warming is complete, unadulterated
All this Blather has something to do with sunspots in what way?
And in other news, Algore is still a flaming dildo.
<< my room mate Mary Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr"…..!kj40n:
two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month's payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it's realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here
!kj40n:
➽:➽:.
➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsAuthorityGetPay$98Hour…..
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!kj40n….,….
For those who missed it, there was an arctic expedition to gather proof that the ice caps were vanishing. The ship got stuck in the massive amount of ice.
Also, NASA reported that the Antarctic ice reached record highs in 2012-2014. https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum
Too bad, Al.
The ice is in the pay of Big Oil….
“Global warming believers are like a hysterical ‘cult’: MIT scientist compares ‘climate alarmists’ to religious fanatics
Comments were made by professor of meteorology, Richard Lindzen”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2922553/Global-warming-believers-like-hysterical-cult-MIT-scientist-compares-climate-alarmists-religious-fanatics.html#ixzz4CpQ2mpTn
Are you referring to the disgraced former MIT professor emeritus who resigned to avoid being fired for scientific fraud and becoming a paid fossil-fuel propagandist?
No.
Any luck with that arctic ice tipping point yet, or are you publicly admitting you were wrong?
You’re either delusional or a liar. Pick one. There is only one ex-prof. Lindzen from MIT, so being gullible and uneducated you are easily duped by his nonsense? What tipping point … care to share where I made that assertion?
Ahh, so no tipping point now?
Is that your newest position?
What tipping point … care to share where I made that assertion?
Your memory is going too.
Don’t be coy or shy … share and valid your comment with evidence or remain a liar for all to see.
Warmer is better:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/10/carry-on-warming/
“There are many likely effects of climate change: positive and
negative, economic and ecological, humanitarian and financial. And if
you aggregate them all, the overall effect is positive today — and
likely to stay positive until around 2080. That was the conclusion of
Professor Richard Tol of Sussex University after he reviewed 14
different studies of the effects of future climate trends.
To be precise, Prof Tol calculated that climate change would be
beneficial up to 2.2˚C of warming from 2009 (when he wrote his paper).”
Prof. Tol who failed to pass peer-review in the prestigious climate journals is your source from secondary non-scientific sources. Wow, you must be a snake oil salesman’s dream customer!
Peer review?
I guess you never heard of retractionwatch.
Or pal review.
Having a parrot ape your paper in exchange for you aping his is not review.
Nor is it scientific.
Typical uneducated necient git who has never published let alone having passed HS science thinks it is competent to comment on peer-reviewed science. It is the best and most thorough method in which knowledge is shared and debated … doesn’t mean there could be some errors etc. but those are all soon discovered and ejected or refuted. You have no clue how science works.
If you think peer review is some gold standard you are a lot further gone than I thought.
It is absolutely the gold standard for science. If you had taken a science class in HS or knew of something better you wouldn’t be so keen to make a fool of yourself.
You’ve totally lost it now!
Do you even know what peer review is?
Good God man, quit making such a fool of yourself.
Peer review, LOL!
Why is science as foreign as Sanskrit for you?
It’s not.
Why are you gullible enough to suggest that peer review isn’t a joke?
Mann’s fake hockey stick was peer reviewed.
Confirmation of the hockey stick (through 2013):
1. 1998: K. R. Briffa, et al., Influence of volcanic eruptions on Northern Hemisphere summer temperature over the past 600 years, Nature, 393, 450-455, 4 June 1998
2. 2000: T. J. Crowley, Causes of Climate Change over the Past 1000 Years, Science, 289, 270
3. 2000: S. Huang, H. N. Pollack, P. Y. Shen, Temperature trends over the past five centuries reconstructed from borehole temperatures, Nature Letts., 403, 756-758
4. 2002: C. Bertrand, et al., Climate of the last millennium: a sensitivity study, Tellus, 54,3,2210244, May
5. 2002: J. Esper, Cook, Schweingruber, Low-Frequency Signals in Long Tree-Ring Chronologies for Reconstructing Past Temperature Variability, Science, 295, 5563, pp.2250-2253, Mar. 22, 2002
6. T. M. Cronin et al., MWP, LIA, and 20th century temperature variability from Chesapeake Bay, Global Planetary Change, 36, 2003, 17-29
7. 2004: H. N. Pollack, J. E. Smerdon, Borehole climate reconstructions: Spatial structure and hemispheric averages, J. Geophys. Res., 109, D11106, 9pp, 2004
8. 2005: E. Jansen, et al., “Extracting a Climate Signal from 169 Glacier Records”, Science, 308,5722,675-677, Apr
9. 2005: A. Moberg et al. Northern Hemisphere 2,000 year Temperature Reconstruction using low and high-res proxy data
10. 2005: S. Rutherford, et al., “Proxy-Based Northern Hemisphere Temperature Reconstructions”, J.Clim,18, 2308-2329,2005
11. 2005: R. Wilson, et al., “Highly variable Northern Hemisphere temperatures reconstructed from low/high-resolution proxy data”, Nature,433,7026,613-617,Feb2005
12. 2006: R. D’Arrigo, et al., On the long-term context for late twentieth century warming”. J.Geophys.Res.,111(D3)
13. 2006: T. J. Osborn, K.R. Briffa, “The Spatial Extent of 20th-Century Warmth in the Context of the Past 1200 Years”.Science311(5762):841-844,2006
14. 2007: A. Moberg, et al., Ch 6: Palaeoclimate, IPCC 4th Assessment Report, 2007
15. 2007: R. Wilson, et al., “A matter of divergence:Tracking recent warming at hemispheric scales using tree ring data”, J.Geophys.Res.,112,D17103,Sept2007
16. 2007: J. Jouzel, et al., “Orbital and Millennial Antarctic Climate Variability over the Past 800,000 Years”, Science, 317,5839,793-797,Aug2007.
17. 2007: M. Ammann and E. Wahl, Climatic Change, 85, 1-2 , 71-88
18. 2007: M. N. Juckes, Millennial temperature reconstruction intercomparison and evaluation, Clim. Past, 3, 591-609, 2007
19. 2007: Wilson et al. N. Hemisphere Tree-Ring-Based Temperature Reconstruction 1750-2005, J. Geophys. Res., 112, D17103, 11 Sept.
20. 2007: E. R. Wahl, C. M. Ammann, Robustness of the Mann, Bradley, Hughes reconstruction of Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures: Examination of criticisms based on the nature and processing of proxy climate evidence, Climatic Change, 85:33-69, 2007
21. 2008: A. Moberg, R. Mohammad, T. Mauritsen, Analysis of the Moberg et al. (2005)hemispheric temperature reconstruction, Clim. Dyn. 31, 7-8, 957-971, Dec. 2008
22. 2009: D. S. Kaufman, et al., Recent Warming Reverses Long-Term Arctic Cooling, Science, 325, 1236 (2009)
23. 2009: H. von Storch, Zorita, Gonzalez-Rouco, Assessment of three Temperature Reconstruction Methods in the Virtual Reality of a Climate Simulation, Int. J. Earth Sci. , 98, 1, 2009
24/25. 2010: M.P. Tingley, P. Huybers, “A Bayesian Algorithm for Reconstructing Climate Anomalies in Space and Time. Part I: Development and Applications to Paleoclimate Reconstruction Problems”; Part II: Comparison with the Regularized Expectation-Maximization Algorithm”. J.Clim.23 (10):2759-2800,2010
26. 2010: D. Frank, et al., A noodle, hockey stick, and spaghetti plate: a perspective on high-resolution paleoclimatology, WIREs, Climate Change, 1, 4, 507-516, July/Aug. 2010
27. 2011: J. Martin-Chivelet, et al., Land surface temperature changes in Northern Iberia since 4000yrBP, based on δ13C of speleothems, Global and Planetary Change, 77,1-2, pp 1-12, 2011
28. 2011: R. F. Spielhagen, et al., Enhanced Modern Heat Transfer to the Arctic by Warm Atlantic Water, Science, 331, 6016, pp. 450-453, 2011
29. 2011: J. Oerlemans, Jan2011,Science Express Index “2500 Years of European Climate Variability and Human Susceptibility”
30. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist. et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227-240, 2012
31. 2012: R. Rohde, et al., A New Estimate of the Average Earth Surface Land Temperature Spanning 1753 to 2011, J. Geophys. Res.
32. 2012:J. Gergis, et al., “Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an AUSTRALASIAN temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium”, J. Climate
33. 2012: T. Melvin, H. Grudd, K. R. Briffa, Potential bias in ‘updating’ tree-ring chronologies using regional curve standardisation: Re-processing 1500 years of Torneträsk density and ring-width data, Holocene, Oct. 26, 2012
34. 2012: F. C. Ljungqvist, et al., Northern Hemisphere temperature patterns in the last 12 centuries, Clim. Past, 8, 227,240, 2012
35. 2013: N. J. Abram, et al., Acceleration of snow melt in an Antarctic Peninsula ice core during the twentieth century, Nature Geosci., 6, 404-411 (see figs. 4 and 5)
36. 2013: S. A. Marcott, et al., A Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years, Science, 8, 339, 6124, 1198-1201
The hockey stick broke, if you don’t know that, you don’t know anything.
Even Briffa admits that.
This buffoon is clueless about science and very proud of it’s stupidity.
And yet it is you defending the discredited hockey stick.
Don’t take my word for it, listen to what 100 climate scientists have to say about it:
http://www.steynstore.com/product133.html
“Do I expect you to publicly denounce the hockey stick as obvious drivel? Well, yes.”
-Jonathan Jones, Professor of Atomic and Laser Physics, University of Oxford
“Michael Mann, Phil Jones and Stefan Rahmstorf should be barred …because the scientific assessments in which they may take part are not credible anymore.”
-Eduardo Zorita, Senior Scientist at Germany’s Institute for Coastal Research
“Did Mann et al get it wrong? Yes, Mann et al got it wrong.”
-Simon Tett, Professor of Climate Science, University of Edinburgh”
—
And there are 97 more, and that’s just in the first edition.
Enjoy your cult!
LOL … I gave you 36 peer-reviewed papers that support the Mann original there are now another six or more since I compiled that list. You have not even managed to find one. I don’t think you have a clue what a scientific citation is. No wonder you’re always on the losing end and reality passes you by.
36 peer reviewed that are dated before his admission that it is garbage.
LOL … you’re duped by what contrarian science-denying site?
You’ve been duped by a fake hockey stick.
Why did Mann hide his methods and data?
Real scientists invite critiques, Mann hid from any investigation of his methods or his data.
We all know why he was hiding it.
Well, everyone but you knows why he was hiding it…..
Cupcake if his methods and data were hidden how has it been replicated? You’re a very gullible and easily duped cretin. How many Nigerian 411 scammers have you fallen for?
“Mr. McIntyre e-mailed Dr. Mann requesting the raw data used to build the
hockey stick. After initially providing some information, Dr. Mann cut
him off.”
“Dr. Mann refuses to release it. “Giving them the algorithm would be
giving in to the intimidation tactics that these people are engaged in,”
he says.”
You were duped by searching for information to find peer-reviewed rebuttal of Mann. Withholding the algorithm is nothing nefarious and McIntyre compiled his own and got the same results so what’s your point?
Withholding the data and the algorithm is clearly unscientific.
Real science requires scrutiny, and McIntrye showed Mann’s work was garbage.
Which is why the IPCC dumped him.
He also lied about being a Nobel Prize winner, and was humiliated as he had to withdraw that claim as well.
Puerile vacuity.
Nice try.
Too bad you don’t understand the basic science or honesty.
Maybe your cult should re-think it’s dogma.
More puerile vacuity from an idiot whose never had a science class that he can remember.
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and religion/cults?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
Climate change is like astrology:
” Japanese scientists have made a
dramatic break with the UN and Western-backed hypothesis of climate
change in a new report from its Energy Commission.
Three of the five researchers disagree with the UN’s
IPCC view that recent warming is primarily the consequence of man-made
industrial emissions of greenhouse gases. Remarkably, the subtle and
nuanced language typical in such reports has been set aside.
One of the five contributors compares computer
climate modelling to ancient astrology. Others castigate the paucity of
the US ground temperature data set used to support the hypothesis, and
declare that the unambiguous warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th
Century has ceased.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/25/jstor_climate_report_translation/
I do find it amusing that people will produce and argue for results using data/information from secondary non-scientific sources, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the primary science sources. Why on earth wouldn’t you start with the primary sources in the first place if you want to discuss science? Maybe you just want to show that your prejudiced feelings are meaningless. Thanks for the heads up!
The Japanese are a secondary source?
Uh, no.
You’re a clueless cretin. You’re quoting theregister which is a secondary or possible even tertiary sorce.
Wrong.
Check with the Japanese.
And my apologies for bursting your little social justice warrior bubble.
Drink some hot chocolate and try not to cry yourself to sleep.
You’re a very sad very gullible and easily duped cretin. Your life must suck … what a loser. Next thing you’ll tell us you voted for Romney.
More deflection.
When is the last time your AGW doomsday cult got anything right let alone a prediction?
Stay on topic instead of deflecting … the quest here is to find out why you like being duped by secondary and tertiary non-scientific sources and avoid going to the primary sources? It is not possible to discuss any science with you because you don’t know what it states. All you know is what you’ve been duped into reading from spurious science-denying sources. Once you get the grasp of some science then maybe we can move on. Until then it is like trying to dialogue with mental patients.
You’re in bad shape pal.
Maybe these guys can help.
http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2305&context=flr
Maybe you link will help you get away from your science denying cult.
Science is on my side.
My side is supported by the science, you side is a cult with a belief system instead of science.
True, we supply the meds you’re on but they’re not working very well!
Ah, you poor bastard, you still think the hockey stick is valid.
Such a shame, and a waste.
Neither you nor any of your science-denying ilk have shown that it is not whereas science shows it is solid theory. I’ll stick with what my colleagues know rather thanwhat some dumb, nescient, science-denying jerk on the internet spews.
“When Messrs. McIntyre and McKitrick pointed this out to Nature, the
journal that first published the hockey-stick graph, Dr. Mann and his
two co-authors had to publish a partial correction. In it, they
acknowledged one wrong date and the use of some tree-ring data that
hadn’t been cited in the original paper, and they offered some new
details of the statistical methods.”
Old news and it didn’t change the data or the conclusions after Mann et al corrected the minor statistical calculation issues. That’s good science and how it should be done. So what’s your point?
Old news?
What does it matter if it is old when it is still right?
Mann is a liar, he even claimed to be a Nobel Prize winner!
He isn’t.
Solid theory, that Mann admitted was wrong.
You’re a perfidiously dumb conservative science-denying cünt stuck in stupidity and have been thoroughly eviscerated for your mendacious and outrageous comments.
And you still can’t explain why all the AGW predictions are,….wait for it……WRONG.
Even Mann and the IPCC admit they lied, but you repeat their lies like they are gospel.
Leave the cult Junior, reality is not that scary!
Stay on topic instead of deflecting … the quest here is to find out why you like being duped by secondary and tertiary non-scientific sources and avoid going to the primary sources? It is not possible to discuss any science with you because you don’t know what it states. All you know is what you’ve been duped into reading from spurious science-denying sources. Once you get the grasp of some science then maybe we can move on. Until then it is like trying to dialogue with mental patients.
Q. Why can’t science-deniers understand the difference between science and religion/cult?A. Because they are uneducated nescient science-deniers, of course and it doesn’t push their prejudiced and non-scientific narrative devoid of evidence that requires belief.
IPCC retracts warming predictions, admits they exaggerated..
Look it up!
Your hearsay is meaningless. If you had evidence you’d point to the IPCC reports and the relevant pages and paragraphs. A very simple task if your research was as thorough as you state it to be.
More bad news for your cult, and good news for the planet.
No AGW crisis is good news, right?
“World’s top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just
QUARTER what we thought – and computers got the effects of greenhouse
gases wrong
Leaked report reveals the world has warmed at quarter the rate claimed by IPCC in 2007
Scientists accept their computers may have exaggerated
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Worlds-climate-scientists-confess-Global-warming-just-QUARTER-thought–computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html#ixzz4Cw84kN1s
“
LOL … tabloids especially rightwing science-denying ones are not sources for science. I do find it amusing that people will produce and argue for results using data/information from secondary non-scientific sources, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the primary science sources. Why on earth wouldn’t you start with the primary sources in the first place if you want to discuss science? Maybe you just want to show that your prejudiced feelings are meaningless. Thanks for the heads up!
Mann’s own words.
Crapola.
Yes, Mann’s own words are crap, including his claims to be a Nobel Prize winner.
Solar winds are stronger with sun spots. when there are fewer spots there are less solar winds and that allows more cosmic rays to actually reach the earth. When cosmic rays reach the earth they cause clouds to form and cool the earth.
Another NASA image? A yellow dot? Graded like a PowerPoint background? Kinda like their blue dot? A dot. Like…a sticker you buy at the store. Ooohhh, pretty.
The broken hockey stick graph.
I wonder if meathead noticed all these have dates AFTER his links showing how great the peer review was on the hockey stick?
Doesn’t say much for the stick, and it says even less for his reliance on peer review.
http://a-sceptical-mind.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-hockey-stick
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-and-hidden-data/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/28/manns-hockey-stick-disappears-and-crus-briffa-helps-make-the-mwp-live-again-by-pointing-out-bias-in-ther-data/
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/403256/global-warming-bombshell/
<.
★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹:★✹::::::!w27nh:….,….
“World’s top climate scientists confess: Global warming is just
QUARTER what we thought – and computers got the effects of greenhouse
gases wrong
Leaked report reveals the world has warmed at quarter the rate claimed by IPCC in 2007
Scientists accept their computers may have exaggerated”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Worlds-climate-scientists-confess-Global-warming-just-QUARTER-thought–computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html#ixzz4Cw84kN1s
Calm down people. The sun was just using samsung’s new selfie retouching phone.
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/blogger-calls-samsung-phones-default-213116150.html
But the libs said global warming was on the rise and we’re all doomed unless we let them rule over us and tell us what’s good for us!!! Idiots and connivers all….
We are in a cooling trend.
If this is true, only Global Warming can save us. Otherwise we will have icebergs running rampant in the streets.