Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore: ‘I fear a global cooling’ – Rips Obama for ‘hollow’ climate claims

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Ecologist Dr. Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, warned “I fear a global cooling,” during his keynote address to the Ninth International Conference on Climate Change in Las Vegas on Tuesday. Moore, who left Greenpeace in 1986 because he felt it had become too radical, is the author of “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist.” (Watch climate conference live here)

Moore noted that a cooling would adversely impact agriculture, and said:  “Let’s hope for a little warming as opposed to a little cooling. I would rather it got a little warmer.” (Watch Moore video here at the Heartland Institute event)

Moore noted that “the U.S. is currently been cooling” and noted that there has been “no global warming for nearly 18 years.” He also mocked the notion that “everything is due to global warming.”

“If it warms two degrees, hopefully more in Canada in the North…maybe it would be a good thing if it did,” Moore explained.

Moore noted that carbon dioxide is a trace essential gas in the atmosphere and is not the control knob of the Earth’s climate.

“CO2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth,” he noted.

“There are so many [climate] variables that we can’t control and when you do an experiment you have to control all the variables except the one you are studying if you want to get a clean result. There are even variables we do not even understand that we cannot control,” he said.

“So it is virtually impossible to think of doing an experiment where we would be able to tweeze out the impact of CO2 versus the hundreds of other variables at work. Which is why you could never make a model that would predict the climate,” he added.

Moore also took criticized President Barack Obama.

“The President seems to say it is sufficient to say the ‘science is settled’. It is hollow statement with no content,” Moore noted.

He also warned that the education system was failing children when it comes to climate change science.

“Change the way our kids are being taught about this subject because if we don’t there will be a whole generation of people who are just blindly following this climate hysteria,” Moore said.

“Our children are not taught logic, they are not taught what the scientific method is, and they are taught that carbon dioxide is pollution. They are told it is carbon now as if it were soot,” he added.

Other Moore Quotes via New American:

Dr. Patrick Moore, a pioneer environmental activist and co-founder of Greenpeace. Dr. Moore, who led some of Greenpeace’s most famous direct action campaigns against whaling and seal hunts, is the author of Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist. Moore told the conference he left Greenpeace when it “went anti-human.” Greenpeace, as well as much of the rest of the radical environmental establishment, he notes, regard humans not as part of the environment, but as enemies of the environment. Greenpeace claims to be for “renewables,” Moore pointed out, “but it is against the two best renewables: hydropower and trees.”

“We should be growing more trees and using more wood,” says Moore, but the global warming alarmists refer to the forests as “carbon stocks” that must not be used. The Greenpeace elites would deny billions of poor people access to energy, Moore notes, while at the same time living lavishly, by comparison. Greenpeace hypocritically boasts of the “super-efficient electric motors” on its new $22 million yacht, says More, but doesn’t mention that the boat is also powered by diesel engines that, of course, use the dreaded “fossil fuels” Greenpeace wants to deny to others.

Related Link:

Greenpeace Co-Founder Tells U.S. Senate: Earth’s Geologic History ‘fundamentally contradicts’ CO2 Climate Fears: ‘We had both higher temps and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today’ (Feb. 25, 2014)

Watch full senate hearing here. 

Selected Highlights of Dr. Patrick Moore’s Feb. 25, 2014 testimony before the U.S. Senate Environment & Public Works Committee:

‘There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years.’ – ‘Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species…It is “extremely likely” that a warmer temperature than today’s would be far better than a cooler one.’

Earth’s Geologic History Fails CO2 Fears: ‘The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming…When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time. Then an Ice Age occurred 450 million years ago when CO2 was 10 times higher than today.’



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  1. I’m just happy that the fascists have not been able to control all the media…..alternative viewpoints are not yet banned or illegal..

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        1. Progressives started this hysteria over everything they want a hundred years ago and keep it up because the public always responds and demands “something be done.” That is what ozero is waiting for with his border disaster. But this time the left maybe went one crisis too far. No one wants to do anything for these diseased and unwanted “children,” many of whom are grown men and outright criminals.

          1. It’s time to split the country in half and let the liberals perform their social experiments on themselves and the Mexicans. The rest of us can build a fence and start getting back to basics.

            1. They didn’t EARN half the country, let them start their own, Africa has a lot of open real estate, just chase off the lions and have at it!

          2. All I can say is of course immigration doesn’t work, it has already been the job of the federal government. Given enough time they could ruin anything, even a wet fart.

          3. I would remind you that “deadhead” bush ( what Barbara called him when he couldn’t get it right) started the call for ‘Immigration reform by calling MCain and Kennedy-Bam Bam co- opted the Repukes

            1. I would remind you I opposed Bush on his “immig. reform.” Just because someone opposes ozero and his schemes does not mean that person supported Bush on every iota.

          4. Progressives never owned banks, a banker by definition ( as Christ defined it when he turned the tables over in the tabernacle because the bankers wanted to charge a fee for attendance -I don’t think Christ was a “Conservative” by any stretch of the imagination-But that is not the issue–IT WAS REAGAN WHO INITIATED THE MESS, BUSH WHO PICKED UP AFTER HIM AND CONTINUED THE WAR ON THE CONSTITUTION AND BAM BAM WHO ” “STOLE” THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THE DEMOCRAPS ARE “DEAD IN THE WATER” HAVING FAILED AT EVERYTHING- THE BANKERS STARTED THIS IN 1913 WITH AN ILLEGAL SYSTEM, WHICH THE ENTIRE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF CRIMINALS “TINKERED WITH” REMOVED THE GOLD AND SILVER BACKING -NOW THEY COULD INFLATE AT WILL, GIVE THEIR FRIENDS A HANDOUT, AND WORK AT MERCANTILE FASICM

        2. Yet the lefties think they can control climate . . . if only we give them enough money. Liberals are only good at talking. They are incompetent in leadership, management, and execution.

              1. I agree & in my opinion that is because most gun owners are law abiding citizens that work full time and are busy taking care of their family. Things will have to get much worse before the armed revolution

                1. Yes and your local cops are not your friends either–get ready to defend your home from being over run by these
                  Darth Vader Paid mercenaries

                    1. The amount of arms sent to the local police and county police would astound the public ( in many instances it was never even asked for, how does that grab you) as far as amwraps they are very sensitive to Molotov Cocktails-
                      Look at 33billionof logistics being left in Afghanistan, the odering of 24Bell ARH-407’s , 24 Beech t-6’s , 34 F-16’s
                      and the REPUBLIKANS are fighting to “dump ” this huge order in Maliki’s “Pockets” they were a little late to Putin sold them 25 su Jets and O Putin will be paid with our dollars, isn’t that a kick in the head–THESE ASSHOLES HAVE TO BE REMOVED BEFORE THEY DO MORE DAMAGE TO OUR NATION, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO BE CHARGED AND TRIED BY “THE PEOPLE’S GRAND JURY”

                    2. 3 percenters
                      A loose affiliation of like minded Americans who vow to refuse to comply with laws that violate the second amendment right to keep (own) and bear (carry) firearms. The name “3 percenter” comes from the fact that only 3 percent of colonial British subjects took up arms against the King during the revolutionary war. Three percent of the population was enough to overthrow a government and win independence.
                      “We are the 3 percenters, we will not comply, we will not be disarmed.”

                    3. Absolutely WASHINGTON NEVER WON A BATTLE WITH THE BRITS- THE US IN KOREA AND VIET NAM WON EVERY BATTLE BUT LOST THE COUNTRY TO THE NATIONALISTS-I believe the American Spring has begun at the Bundy Ranch, and the Washington rats know their history, they smell doom and defeat, I suggest that many may not seek office this election ( we may have martial law beforehand) The Bastards Cannot kill and idea,)
                      The people will wipe them from the face of this earth as if they never existed. THESE BIMBOS CAN’T GET ANYTHING RIGHT THEY CANNOT EVENE AGREE TO LIE WITH CONSISTENCY -IT WILL REALLY HIT THE FAN WITH RT’S release on 9-11 being an inside job-( and there is plenty of supporting material)

                    4. When the sh!t hits the fan a lot of Government Commissars ls will be swinging from lamp posts.

                    5. You have proven yourself to be a tad stupid. You can’t spell or have logic thought. In other words You are a dumbshit!

                  1. What a collection of paranoid idiots! First, no one is going to take away your precious penis replacement! Second, if the Government wants to take away your guns, you ain’t doin’ nothun’ about it! Ever here of a drone? A Tank? Please live out your embarrassing macho fantasies somewhere else.

                    1. Listen Moron I lost ten of my family members in Germany when Hitler and his gang of “brownshirts ” confiscated everything even the farmer’s shot gun Moreover shithead, “Our Government” and it’s minions of like moron
                      supporters like you ( You sounded like a jockstrop’) have already announced their intentions to kill anyone ” they feel like because of what “they may be thinking” We have turned into a Mercantile Fascist regime and the FEMA Camps should be on everyone;’s mind because the Idiots Like you kept up the Regimes Drumming about
                      Conspiracies- well now we all know they are real-Every Fascist or Commie regime always confiscated weapons before murdering their populace- a very widely accepted practice– Go stay with you crummy friends in government and see if they will protect you when the SHTF

                    2. I see little teeny black helicopters flying around in your head. there seems to be lots of room!

                    3. You will also see drones in your backyard stupid and you will have nothing to say about it because you are too stupid t o be alive you primordial slimebag

            1. The right is doing a great job helping them destroy the USC-Truth is that the bastards are all serving themselves
              The two party system is dead-There is no “real” base that OBUMA has- he has thrown everyone under the bus
              Other than his tribe of “hoodies”

            2. That will never happen unless a Civil War were to occur ?

              Try to stay in context !

              The right to “Free Speech” will fall far sooner and you see much of that already in the Left and and in the “Main Stream” media where there is only One (1) view, their view !!!


              How can a “Country” fall so fast…


          1. They are not trying to control climate; they are in the business of controlling people. At it’s root, the climate change ideology is about eugenics-if we spend a significant portion of the global GDP enriching governments and their climate change cronies, where is the money to feed the third world going to come from? Nowhere; they will starve, and by design. The tree-hugging hippies are simply useful idiots (again).

            1. Planned Parenthood, founder by Margaret Sanger, one of the Left’s few Saints, was intended to reduce the rate of minority births, a form of eugenics.

            2. ” Be like me, don’t use your car. I’ve parked mine by the hanger, I’m taking the jet.instead.” – Any environmentalist politician. Green is for thee, not for me.

              1. And the defective liberal gene goes with them. Good riddance. Hopefully it will grow into a movement and we’ll have libslime diving off every tall building and bridge to kill themselves and “save the planet”. Little do they know how right they’d be!!

            1. Bam Bam has fired 197 generals, and provided his H.S Army billions of rounds , more than enough to kill all of us 3x over-If you lay down you deserve what you get

          2. I would bet burning all that money might actually cause global warming. Must be their hope – that and a billion dollars for their pet “research projects.”

          3. Only Bush was a ” Competent” the dyslexic moron who couldn’t even read a prompt card- we should also thank him for the excellent job done on 9-11- “Well done Bushy” you killed 2900 people and now you even have Gunga Din working for you-

        3. But they are really good at scaring the hell out of 6, 7 and 8 year old children attending publicly financed indoctrination centers.

          The way to win is from now on every time you encounter a globull warmist you should just laugh.

          1. Actually I have been doing that for years now, warmist or coolist. I call them alarmists. Man made climate change is one of the biggest lies to come along since the Brontosaurus.

        4. The left IS an emergency and DOES require action now. More free abortions, sterilizations and yes even euthanasia if that’s what it takes to eradicate this threat to humanity. Yes We Can!!

        5. They use the ‘we need action now’ meme for something that will affect us in 10-20 years, never we need action now because the threat is imminent because none of it’s true and it’s all about control of the people. Junk science at it’s best. Those with a room temperature IQ have finally caught on to the scheme.

        6. The Left used Hysteria and Emergency which required action NOW to create The Soviet Union and Mao’s China. Every time The Left open their mouths and act on it, 10s of millions of people die. Without fail.
          Climate Change is another way to control everyone and get rid of people, by the billions this time — without firing a shot. If they succeed.

      1. True the media is heavily biased against the full debate that is really ongoing in the scientific literature. Many studies are not written which come to the AGW conclusion. Mass media isn’t smart enough to understand that, but the US population is smarter than the media. A recent Rasmussen poll providing evidence that US voters aren’ as brainwashed as some think. The kids are because of public school though.

      2. The Left is not the least bit interested in curbing CO2 emissions. Their entire strategy is to implement a world wide carbon tax, which means only two things, more taxes for you and more revenue for the masters of the universe.

      1. Thankfully they can’t ban the internet & word of mouth. The truth can be found by anyone seeking it. The “global warming / climate change” movement is so obviously an attempt at a monumental power grab by government based on the flimsiest of evidence…you don’t have to be a climatologist to call this one out. A little research reveals time and again just how phony this scam is.

        Thank you Dr. Moore and all the other knowledgeable people around the world who have revealed this thing as b.s. science.

        1. fidobite – you are absolutely correct. However, the problem with your observation is that those on the left don’t do their own research (save the argument about even being able to read for another post) and those on the right seem to be petrified and unable to do anything about them. There are NO leaders on the right to challenge the lefts regime. I no longer refer to them as an administration – they are an outright regime hellbent on destroying this once beautiful country. The Brits are no better – shaking in their boots. I feel helpless – I always vote for conservatives that I hope will challenge his dumbassness but too many conservatives have given up and stay at home on voting day. Sad, scary and all I have left to do is shake my head and weep. What have we left our children?

          1. I understand your anxiety, TexasGator. I don’t portend to know your religious inclinations, but I have faith as a Christian that monumental events are going to render about 99% of everything discussed online as totally moot.

            At the risk of changing the direction of this entire thread I would suggest keeping one eye on current events and the other on Biblical prophecy. Ignore the secularists, atheists, ignorant and those trapped by other false religions…they are but distractions to your clarity. I’m not here to preach, I’m just suggesting you do your own careful search – the two very telling recent fulfillments to date: 1.) the Jews have returned to their ancestral homeland (1948) and 2.) an explosion of travel and communication on earth (also a post-WWII phenomena).

            Buckle in and pray for God’s enlightenment as it’s going to get rougher as time progresses. The islamics are playing out their part as the primary enemies of Israel. They will fail spectacularly, even supported by anti-Semites from other parts of the world. All it takes for the prophesized events to come together are enough non-believers to fulfill the anti-Israeli roll and there’s no shortage of those. The next days, weeks, months and perhaps years will be frightening and faith-challenging.

        1. A glimpse of hope and change, only the hope is turning into despair. The change is becoming more clear with each passing day. Will we understand what “change” really means for this country before it’s too late? I’m guessing “too late” will come first. When our once-prosperous republic becomes an impoverished socialist welfare state with limited freedom, we’ll be scratching our butts wondering how such a thing could possibly happen? Well, conservatives like me will know exactly how it happened. We’ve been warning the public about this for decades about this shift to the left and the ears have been getting deafer. And that’s putting it succinctly!

      2. The BBC is such an obvious propaganda machine! Stick with the trusted British outlets. I’m as grateful for them as I am for the conservatives on Fox News and several informative conservatives hosting radio talk shows.

          1. Why stop there? Why stop at democrats?

            I would have added Reid. Bush for sure (still a contender for worst president in history, even though Obama has done his best to secure it). McCain is a real corrupt dirtbag. Too many to list…

        1. The BBC is politically neutral and independent. Fox news is not ! People who have a severe imbalance in their beliefs stick with what makes them comfortable.

      3. Not banned yet, but they’re trying to; some warmists are bleating that the ‘settled’ science brooks no opposition and wants BBC to ban opposition viewpoint; it’s a digital book burning.

      1. The issue is the human trafficking and diseases – in the UK there is a sign when you enter the country that says: “UK Border Security – Protecting the Border, Controlling Migration”. That’s what it’s about. Not to mention the burden it puts on services like health care, housing, etc. It’s not that they are bad people (although some are). It’s the complete and deliberate failure of the Administration to do it’s Constitutionally ordained job.

      2. So it’s a slap in the face to the millions of immigrants who followed the rules and waited their turn to become lawful citizens. Plus it’s a huge security risk. And there’s that pesky thing called the Rule of Law.

    2. Not yet. But notice how the press is being pressured by the regime on the illegal immigration fiasco. Viewpoints are being threatened and those whistleblowers who are willing to speak out are too.

        1. Hey, John, am I right in assuming you were pointing out the “D’s” call the “R’s” “fascist” in an attempt to tie the “R’s” to Nazi’s and Hitler and to deflect from the fact that they were a national socialist party. You we not actually saying the “R’s” are fascist? I was thinking my irony detector was better than the texasknight here so I had to ask a calibration question.

          1. Hitler calling his party ‘The National Socialist Party’ does not make it socialist. If I say that I’m a hippo, that in it’s self does not make me a hippo.

    3. Did he not get the memo. The discussion is over.
      Obama said so.
      Global warming is the biggest problem to our world.

      (note, for the literal readers out there… I am very sarcastic.)

    4. You’d think that, but a lot of the admins/moderators for liberal sites will delete your post if you present arguments against AWG. There are about a dozen reasons to laugh when someone advocates AWG. Since I’ve seen no evidence of AWG to counter established science,

      I put climate change “believers” in the same category as BigFoot and Loch Ness Monster. You hear about it, but you just don’t ever see it and nobody of the 7 billion can ever seem to prove it.

      1. Imagine if the Bigfoot hunters suddenly became mainstream and started legislating their belief in Harry and the Hendersons?! Oh wait, we pretty much have that now……nevermind…..

    5. Actually, the LA Times, BBC and others have recently made it their policy to censor comments that show skepticism of climate change dogma. Who would’ve thought people in a Democratic society in 2014 would accept the modern day equivalent of Nazi book burning?

      1. I can tell you for certain that is not the case with the BBC; having just listened to a programme where the main speaker was a ‘climate warming sceptic. He does have close ties to the oil industry, who fund his research and pay part of his salary

    6. I fear Eco-terrorists who stubbornly remain stuck-on-stupid, yet for reasons that are inexplicable, are
      still able to command a nation-wide platform to spew their nonsense.

      1. Shhhhh you pathetic pool of dick/splash….people like you make me sick…think for yourself for once rather than following the lead of all the other donkeys in your party….take a hike dope!!

      2. I stumbled on this site to look at the profile of someone who calls themselves a scientist. This group of people are actually scary eg Wellarmedlamb. It would be pointless to get into a discussion with anyone, it’s only the miles of cable separating me from them that make me feel that I could make a comment.

    1. When Al Gore speaks of “Deniers” he’s referring to those who would deny him the billions he stands to make on his carbon trading schemes and other “green” scams.

      1. I support government incentives for cleaner energy. It’s the taxing, fining, and punitive measures (e.g. cap & trade) that are evil. If the government wants to reward you for something that benefits all, we’re good. When they come to steal your money, tax you, or rob you (e.g. cap & trade), you know it’s coming from a dark, evil, greedy place. Maybe that’s a generalization, but I think you get the point.

        1. I agree 100%. The first law they should pass is that absolutely nobody can make a profit from this and they should cap any salaried positions at 125-150k per year. That way only people who truly care would bother to get involved in it. Al Gore can take his billions and go to hell.

  2. This should be headlines in all of the major news papers and on network news. The educators must start teaching our children not indoctrinating them!

        1. Excuse me, but could any sane person not realize that flooding EVERY
          & ONLY White countries with MILLIONS of non-Whites and telling
          everyone to “assimilate” to create a blended humanity IS white GENOCIDE?

          Africa will still be full of Africans

          Asia will still be full of Asians

          Only White children will suffer from this insanity.

          iT’s wHitE geNOcide

          Except they don’t call it GENOCIDE when it’s done to White children.

          They call it “diversity”
          Anti-racist is a code for anti-White

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    1. Good luck with that, your education system is controlled by unions who control your federal government who in turn pretend to be controlling your education system. And in true union fashion not only are they destroying that education system but are being overpaid and wasting money to do it.

  3. Moore was not be completely stupid, he saw Greenpeace for what they truly are, useful idiots used by globalists to keep the public from using natural resources that are intended only for the rich and wealthy.

    1. Greenpeace is flooded with communist who work only to attack capitalism, not save the environment. Anyone who thinks differently is a fool. All of their solutions are designed to tax businesses, which in return these businesses will be forced to charge us more for their products. …. Greenpeace’s entire goal is to make themselves the middle man between energy companies and us, the consumers.

      Government on the other hand, steals our tax money and hands it over to “scientist” so they can study global warming and report back what the government wants to hear….. the idea for this paid propaganda is to change that only 20% of Americans who believe in global warming… They are looking to change the tide on those beliefs so they can levy a carbon tax on us. If they tried that today, they would be run out on a rail…. But if they purchase enough propaganda from “scientist” with grant money over time, to the point where that poll reads 51% are now believers in global warming, it would be much easier to levy that tax on us.

      1. Not only Greenpeace but education, bureaucracies in industry and government and the universities. Often it isn’t the rank and file workers in the aforementioned but those in leadership positions.

      2. I see you are one of the 14% that understand the importance of polls aimed at looking at public opinion. Anytime I see a public opinion poll it sends up a red flag. Ok, this is an important guage for some politician somewhere. There trying to see what they can dupe the public into believing this time.

      3. That’s also what Pfizer and friends are doing with their ‘research.’ If you know anything about statistics, research, logic, ethics and mass marketing you know our system is going down the tubes. I’m going back to golf.

  4. FOLLOW THE MONEY…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    1. Environazi’s don’t want to save the planet. They want to use it as an excuse or a vehicle to attack capitalism and business.

      Carbon credits? Its a tax on businesses, but how is buying virtual credits going to save the planet? If company A pollutes less and buys a carbon credit, a counterpart in China or India will pollute more to make the money company A can’t do anymore because of carbon regulations. So what is the net gain for the environment here?

  5. But, but, but, all my liberal friends swear that the planet is really getting hotter, and that their models really can work, and that there is a consensus that we are doomed if we don’t return to the Stone Age, and every one of them is a fool.

    1. Why are you friends with liberals? To paraphrase Jack Nicholson: “I’d rather stick needles in my eyes than spend even one second in the presence of a slack-jawed liberal ignoramus”.

    2. It has nothing to do with hot air, cold air or anything else. It is just a scheme for massive new taxes that not one politician will ever have to pay. Twenty years ago Walter Mondale was heard whispering into Ted Kennedy’s ear while looking out over the enthusiastic crowd at a dem convention, “Little do they know we’re going to tax their a$$es off”.

  6. Moore makes a lot of valid points but too many people think he is too controversial. For the sake of civility, why can’t the majority just agree to continue to reduce all pollution (water, air, land) and continuously strive for efficiency in every thing we do. I believe myself to be a conservative (registered NPP- no political party in California) and do not believe in “wasting” resources. I recently got a small SUV which gets 27 MPG and would have gladly paid $3,000 more for a similar model that got 50 MPG. I just like saving money (another conservative idea) and would pay for that. I put solar panels on my roof primarily because it saves me $500 per month in electrical costs. What more reason do I need. I have planted lots of trees around my home because they make my house more comfortable, more attractive, and increase my property value. Every one of these things that I mentioned above reduces carbon even though that was not my primary intent.

    1. You do realize the environmental movement has nothing to do with saving the earth, right?…. its about attacking capitalism, and nothing else.

      1. It’s also about dialing for dollars. Just spreading the gospel on global warming is a $14 billion per year industry. e.g. Al Gore has made over a $100 million. Adding in a bunch of other government grants and subsidies for projects, it’s close to $50 billion per year.

    2. Depending on how much you drive, this may or may not be worth it. With my driving habits, if I found a vehicle that got 44% better gas mileage and assuming the price of gas remained under $4.00/gallon (big assumption at this point), it would take me six years to break even. Probably not worth it.

      1. You’re right, it’s just math. I average about 26,000 miles per year so it make sense in my case. Heck, it I drove only 4,000 mikes per year, even an Escalade SUV would be on my radar screen. (humor)

    3. I admire you conservation attempts but holy cow, saving $500 per month on electricity. Just how much power are you using at you house for goodness sake? Our electric bill at the highest is less than $200 a month, so if your electric bill is now $0 at the least and you are saving $500, you are still using too much power.

      1. Two story house on hill in SoCal, 90-100 degrees every day, 4 adults (at least one person in house 24 hrs per day), 2 air conditioners, one pool pump running 8 hours per day, and finally, our electrical rate for Edison Tier 4 is $.32 per KwH. Yours is probably around $.10 to .$12. Even the LADWP rate in Los Angeles is only around $.14. At $.12, it doesn’t make sense to install panels. At $.32, it’s less than a 5 year payout. It’s all political. Basically, they are just screwing the professional middle class.

        1. If you can get your installed solar generation costs below $2.40 per Watt, your payback period will be twenty years at $0.12 per kWh, without any tax-credit subsidies, but only it you can take advantage of “net energy metering” (NEM) credits with your utility.

          I generate 50+kWH per day (April, May, June) with 596 square feet of rooftop PV modules (28 315W 72-cell monocrystalline PV panels) installed with a 26.6 degree tilt at 195 degrees azimuth, and keep the house nicely cool in the Arizona desert. This is much more energy harvested than I use, enough to also keep a short-trip Nissan Leaf 24.5 kWh battery charged.

    4. Solar panels cost a lot of money – unless there’s a tax credit… so the taxpayer paid for your solar panels — You saved money on the backs of the rest of the nation. No one would have solar panels in an unmodified market.

      1. In theory, you are correct in a perfect world. I failed to mention that Edison can take my power when they need it by turning off my air conditioners by remote control. When it gets really hot, electrical demand grows so high that Edison has to buy spot out-of-state power for as much as $40 (not $.40) per KwH. This cost gets passed on in the rate base which increases the base cost for everyone. Because they can grab my power for free anytime they need it, their need for spot, out-of-state electricity is a lot lower. Also, local solar panels reduce the necessity of building multi billion dollar electricity transmission lines from the mid-west to California. These costs also get thrown into the rate base. One final consideration, most of the out-of-state electricity is produced from coal.

        1. You are basically correct. Conservation is all economic, spend less and you conserve, since resources availability is a reflection of cost. The political system has distorted the market to a large extent, but money is still the only reliable measure of resource value.

  7. Take this and post it all over the place F c the msm if you flood the net with it they have no choice bu tto cover it. If your still on Facebook or other social media trip use it use the governemtn nsa site to spread the truth. I was permanently banned ( i wear it like a badge of honor) from face book for doing this exact thing. Spread the truth like a plague.
    If we protect in the street the fascist pigs will kill you , if you scream it over a microphone they will arrest you. SO use the net to get every one to see it copy past to every discussion every comment even remotely connected to weather or climate change the sun rises paste this in there.

  8. Don;t fear the reaper, bro. There’s nothing you can do. enjoy your life and stop wringing your hands. Adapt. That’s what successful species do.

  9. The incalculable amount of variables which factor into
    climate are impossible for us to comprehend much less measure, disseminate and
    discern each influence with every other corresponding variable affected. It is
    closer to chaos than picking out a handful of environmental flags and stating
    such a blanket explanation as fact.

    Even the simplest of processes become near chaotic when
    examined in ever increasingly smaller scale much less planetary. Improvements
    in data collection with disregard to localized environmental and topographic
    variables (changed or underreported), coupled with the sheer amount of data
    collected for comparison antiquates previous data in scope and methodology.

    Climatology is political party, which explains the wildly
    unreasonable reaction to qualified dissension in peer review, refusal of data
    sharing and dismissal of the need for reproduction when errors and
    falsifications are present. If it had remained in the scientific realm, it
    would still be called Meteorology. Instead, the Socialist-Reeducational Complex
    formed this industry which takes in more capital and produces less than any in
    the history of man. That every climatologist concurs, what they were taught and
    are now teaching is fact, means nothing. Experimenter bias can be attributed to
    much more than a salary in the prestige of fronting humanity saving research in
    our dire final hour, receiving awards and accolades and earning a prominent
    place in the regulatory behemoth established to counter the contrived results
    before they show no fruition. It might just focus data gathering at
    predetermined locations of concentrated production of the conformational data required.

    The embedded politics are on display when all importance is
    placed on halting progress and limiting freedoms instead of countering the
    perceived effects through their own means of collection, disposal, or
    production of whatever they imagine will balance things out.

    If man’s influence on climate change was correctly
    represented as a hypothesis, it would not currently be the basis for the
    regulatory systems being devised, causing apoplectic opposition to the
    devastating economic ramifications and repression of civil liberties. Then research
    with the removal of politics being of foremost prominence in the exclusion of
    experimental bias would ensure the integrity of the studies and true consensus
    can be found.

  10. “Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore: ‘I fear a global cooling’”
    Right, because you can’t grow food crops in the f*c**** snow! … and all the natural medicines and sources of air scrubbing and oxygen comes from the ice shelf and not the Amazon, right, global warming idiots?

    1. He is the FORMER founder… he left because greenpeace became overrun with communists (he refers to them as radicals)… Early 90’s when the Soviet Union fell, the left over communist all over the world realized they can’t force their beliefs through war, so they decided to use the environment as a vehicle to attack capitalism…. one of those groups was greenpeace they targeted.

      1. Don’t forget infiltrating the Demo☭Rat party and Union bosses scum too plus the education system, 3 out 4 college professors are radical leftist scumbags.

        1. The LMPS (leftist, marxists, progressives) infiltrated the unions and education in the 30″s to the 50″s and got themselves entrenched in these. They trained their “students” to then go out into the world to propagandize. They started taking over the Democrat party after 1968 and the Chicago convention. And now they are in the government bureaucracies. They have followed the “long march” strategy through the institutions” strategy of various socialist preachers. Now we have to root them out.

          1. Not many people have acknowledged or are even aware of this, including the majority of the Democrat electorate, but you are absolutely correct. They thwarted Joe McCarthy’s efforts to identify and root them out of Congress, and mocked him for his boogeymen. Later, few believed nor understood Khruschev’s warning about how he would take down this country without firing a shot. But this is exactly what he meant, and what you describe is exactly how it has proceeded for the last three generations. “Long March”, indeed.

      2. Right; and one of the reasons for AlGore’s fantasy is that most of the weather stations in the USSR went offline after the Soviet collapse; therefore the average READINGS went up because the Siberian reports disappeared. The bottom half of the bell curve got smaller, and this was never allowed for.

  11. The Green movement became the RED movement as in Red Marxists like Obama, Gore, Hildebeast, Pelosi, Reid and all the global warming cooling climate changing, disrupting or what ever the name of the week is for the climate hustling alarmist scammers! It’s a complete scam. There has never been a debate and even before there was the king of the climate hustlers stated that the debate is over! They can’t debate anything because none of their views are supported by facts. All of their views are based on what will lead to the biggest and most government and control so that the leftists can get on the bandwagon and line their pockets. Notice how the leftist leaders all get rich while putting on their hustle just like the Communists in Russia. They all get rich while producing Absolutely NOTHING!

    1. The Federal bureaucracy, the unions and most NGOs have become the RED movement as well. The leadership are nearly all leftists of some sort. What most rank and file members don’t get is the extent to which they are supporting the Socialization of the US.

    2. The Federal bureaucracy, the unions and most NGOs have become the RED movement as well. The leadership are nearly all leftists of some sort. What most rank and file members don’t get is the extent to which they are supporting the Socialization of the US.

    1. At various times I have attempted repeatedly with individuals to get them to deal with data, even baiting them with data for their side, but none have ever been willing to argue based on logic or reason. What invariably happens is that they trot out old tried and true tactics, yelling, screaming, ad hominem attacks, ridicule, intimidation, taunting and physical intimidation. It is as if they were trained to use these tactics and some are. Others are not secure in their own knowledge to argue from evidence.

      1. I am swamped in a sea of liberals because I’ve taught for 40 years and most of my colleagues are teacher-union members (although the left-leaning there is changing because many hate commie core), so to maintain respect and friendship I rarely try to argue with them. But I have found when confronted with actual facts, they often retreat to shaming (see Dinesh D’Souza’s movie America on that category): “You don’t want to ruin the environment, kill babies with asthma, kill whales with a polluted ocean, starve people in the streets, kill off the elderly, yadda?” or, the coup d’grace–“I just can’t believe that.”

        Their ideas are religious beliefs and you can’t argue them. My favorite is the raising minimum raise bete noire–we have studies since it was first invented in the 1930s that show businesses 1) do not hire, 2) fire or reduce employees’ hours, and/or 3) raise the price of their products which A) keeps teens and young people trom gaining entry-level jobs, B) raises costs for businesses, and C) causes inflation of products. We have had 3 such “min. wage” raises since 2007 and in NJ, we have CODIFIED them in the state cons. through tax-payer vote!!! but if you argue the facts with anyone on the left, their riposte is “Don’t you want people to have a living wage?” My answer is “Yes, but working at the counter at Sears or McDonalds will never provide that” and I actually had a math teacher respond to me, “I just can’t understand those numbers.” I actually had never mentioned a number.

  12. Consider the biomass including plant life required to sustain the dinosaur population during the time of high earth temperatures and one gets an idea that warm temperatures are better than cold.

  13. Cooling, warming, warming, cooling… This planet is going to do what it wants. The initiated know that the contours of the land and solar activity are the primary drivers of climate oscillation.

  14. He’s right. Global cooling would be a disaster, and would kill hundreds of millions – mostly through starvation. Of course, this would make the elite progressives quite happy.

    1. Ditto. I think it is a real possibility as well because of the long term geological record. We are due.

      I kind of hope that amidst all this global warming non-sense, which is primarily about money IMO, some serious climate research is being done. I suspect it is but who knows?

  15. As a structural engineer I use complex analysis models that determine loads and stresses in structures that have a high degree of variable input. It is easy to change the outcome of my model by making slight changes to the structural elements such as the degree of stiffness of a connection or by changing the variables/coefficents representing the materials used in the construction. It’s easy for for me to understand how these “Scientists” get the results they are looking for by influencing the models to show the results they want. What they fail to do is adjust the model so that their results match real life data before they use the model to project the future climate. That and the fact that they neglect the most significant variable, the behavior of the sun.

    1. David – Thank you for calmly making this point. Has any computer model been able to “predict” or reconstruct the past 100 or 10,000 years using actual temperature, sea level and CO2 data? I’ve looked and failed to find anything. My research (I’m a scientist) shows that since 1900 man has increased CO2 by 33% but CO2 in the atmosphere on whole is up only 1 in 10,000. Is it possible that a 1 in 10,000 increase in a trace atmospheric gas required for all life on the surface of the planet caused the 1.32 degree increase?

  16. In the middle of the heartland and we have run our airconditioner for 2 days in the past 2-3 weeks. Today it is forecast to be in the mid-70s. In July!! This certainly does not fit the Global Warming narrative, but don’t let the facts of the matter get in the way of the talking points.

    1. Oh please, they a have a statistical model that is telling them your temps are in the 90’s, now who are you going to believe, that silly thermometer or a SCIENTIST!?! ( who only get’s paid if AGW is true )

      These people are worse than a cheap fortune teller at a low class carnival and nothing you tell them will convince them they are wrong, because if they are wrong they are out of a job and no longer have a religion.

  17. Well darn! Who are you gonna believe…algore or someone with impeccable environmental credentials? Oh yeah, the climate control groupies are out trying to destroy Dr. Moore’s credibility because he has not knelt at the altar of man caused climate change (aka global warming). After all, 97% of ‘scientists and academia’ are positive that man is causing the earth to die. I just can’t figure out which result the 97% would reach if their funding wasn’t directed to PROVE an agenda.

    1. Even the 97% number is a bunch of BS, they sent out a survey to a cherry picked audience, of that survey they then further cherry picked who would be allowed to be called a ‘climate scientist’ until they got a number they liked.

      “Oh this high school soccer coach that teaches science 1 time a year and subscribes to our newsletter believes it’s true, so into the pro column he goes, hmmm this MIT professor has questions, my he must have been paid off by someone, nope can’t count him!”

      Saddam Hussein used to get 97% of the vote and tactics are the same.

  18. Anyone that doesn’t buy into the failed predictions of the global warming fraudsters is either stupid or bought off, so say the chicken little’s.

    They can’t show even one prediction that has been close to true.

    Their models are wildly inaccurate.

    Their CO2 hypothesis works fine in a jar in Professor Paidoff’s lab with simple inputs, but in the environment where a huge number of factors are present that they cannot model the trends of higher CO2 and lower temperatures befuddle them and make them scratch their tiny pointy heads.

    Historical evidence also shows this in the climate record, but again it’s disregarded because it denies what they so feverishly want to believe.

    The fact that temperatures are actually stable and or dropping is still not enough proof that their silly models and simplistic explanations for climate drivers are wrong.

    They insist they are right, even though they have been found to be consistently wrong, they falsify data to prop up their positions, and when caught claim that it’s a completely valid method of proving they are right, even with all of that their models are not accurate.

    I predict that someday we will be able to model the climate fairly accurately, and that what these phony scientist have been doing will be laughed at and considered to be the modern day equivalent of a Ouija Board, real scientist will wonder how these political hacks were ever taken seriously.

    But wait, they have a battle cry “We were wrong, but now we are right! If you don’t listen you will be sorry in 5 years”

    It’s the same one they have been using for the last 20 and people are just starting to laugh, it’s making them ever more desperate, and Obama who never met a law he didn’t wan’t to break will “Take executive action” to ensure that that AGW fraud remains alive.

  19. Amazing there are sane environmentalist. Environmentalism used to be caring about clean water, preserving habitats and pollution prevention. Now it’s all about lining the pockets of “Green” businesses. How much pollution is created to make one solar panel? Let’s preserve our environment and not try to control our planets climate. If we want to try and terraform go to mars.

  20. ‘I fear a global cooling’

    Of course they fear it they base their whole lie on warming.
    They deny the truth when it does not meet their agenda and plans.

    It is very hard to believe or trust anyone who drives around
    in a limo or has a jet or yacht telling me to conserve energy.

    These environmentalists go through the chow line pile their
    plates high like Jon Balushi did in Animal House then tell you to eat a salad.

    If hypocrisy was a food these environmentalist would all
    weigh 400lbs.

    I applaud our scientist who found a cure for small pox and
    many more diseases but will be so thrilled when they find a cure for environmentalism
    and liberalism.

  21. Patrick Moore has it right. Google *Moderating Climate Change Hysteria* for scientific details. It is sad that so many humans are incapable of thinking and reasoning for themselves. The renewable energy fad has killed far more people worldwide over the last 20 years than all wars and acts of terrorism combined through starvation. When we have eroded away all of our prime Midwest topsoil growing corn for ethanol, what will our grandchildren eat? Biofuels have raised the price of fertilizer, farmland, and food all over the world, and biofuel farming increases the release of CO2, methane, and nitrous oxide. The Democratic Party has gone completely insane, and is enforcing junk science on all of us as a new age religion.

  22. If the temperature gets any warmer or cooler than it is right now the government will take more money away from working Americans. Next thing they tax is if it rain too much or too little.

  23. none of the global warming mouthpieces believe in global warming, they believe in raking in trillions of dollars in carbon credit “facilitation” (selling unicorn farts from one country to another) processing fees.

    1. The $trillion dollar stimulus plan was phase one of carbon taxes
      Where government forcibly took 1$TRillion dollars from the free market
      And gave it to their Cronny’s
      Same thing for the $800+ Billion TARP fund

  24. For years, I have been warning about the dangers of global cooling and the inevitable re-glaciation of the northern hemisphere. Typically, inter-glacial periods last about 15,000 years and then catastrophically, reverse. We’re due. I have also been predicting for years that in the future, Mankind will work very, very hard to keep the climate warm to prevent the far worse calamity of a prolonged cooling period.

    1. I couldn’t agree more with you. Global Warming is a complete hoax. Whatever “proof” the nitwits have come with turns out to be contrived. At the same time Al Gore was screaming the global ice caps were melting, and polar bears were going extinct, the fact is that the ice caps were getting thicker, and polar bears are more plentiful than ever….almost to the scale of being nuisances.

  25. It’s all about establishing a socialist/communist government. It has nothing to do with protecting the environment! Hotter, colder or remains the same, it does not matter. Everything is global warming or climate change. As they are screaming this tripe and mocking those who dare question them, they pass laws and make regulations stripping freedoms and bankrupting companies and people. This is tyranny not cleaning the environment.

  26. so … with all this “settled science” … exactly WHAT is the Correct temperature of the Earth that we should be shooting for? based on …?

    1. BINGO! A question that the chicken littles can not and will not answer. Every single failed model prediction is dispositive of their theory, yet none accept this. And useful idiots abound to suck this up…

    2. 68.36409 degrees Fahrenheit. And if you question a number expressed by me with such precision, you’re a racist or believe in God, or possibly both, and are subject to reeducation.

    3. That’s the $64,000 question. The answer is that no one knows. The current crop of global warmers have decreed that the temperature seen at the beginning of the 20th Century must be the correct temperature, but they don’t really know.

  27. Watch the animals, They will tell you what is coming. Birds migrating early or late. Cooler water sharks and other sea creatures moving further south etc. I agree with Dr. Moore. If anything, we are coming due for another ice age.

  28. Modern Myth builders a few celebrities ,a few facts ,a lot of political spin a few blindfolds …. just pay no mind to the fact that the earth and our sun contribute far greater influences than the human/animal equation on our environment…Yes each of us is responsible for taking care of our part of this earth that God has allowed us to use …but recognize there will be earth events that will out weigh anything that man can put forth … and the cycles of warming and cooling will continue with minor bumps from humans

  29. Moore noted that carbon dioxide is a trace essential gas in the atmosphere and is not the control knob of the Earth’s climate.

    “CO2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth,” he noted.

    Plants and photosynthetic bacteria need CO2 as much as we need oxygen. How would you like it if plants and microbes tried to reduce the amount of oxygen in the air in retaliation? it’s a good thing they’re almost as stupid as leftists!

  30. Never believed it at all. It’s not about Climate, It’s about people control. Environmentalists have always been “Watermelons” All Green on the outside, but Commie RED Through and through inside.

  31. “…..There are even variables we do not even understand that we cannot control,…”

    I thought Al Gore had us covered with all the trees he was going to plant if we just sent him the cash?

  32. I’m glad some honest people are coming out of the woodwork. There has been no global warming in 17 years. They US has been cooling ever so slightly for a decade. Can you imagine how much greater the cooling effect would have been in the last 50 years had man not contributed to the “warming” of the globe? Or did we actually contribute to its cooling since the 1930’s? Hmmmm…

    We can do nothing about climate change, which is dramatic over long periods of time. Man has had almost nothing to do with these changes. On the other hand, we CAN do something about the REAL problem – POLLUTION. Isn’t it strange how mum the left is on that issue, especially in the US, the world’s #2 polluter? Want to know why? The Democrats are trying to double our population by year 2050 for political reasons. They know that increasing our population dramatically means becoming the world’s worst polluter by far. Twice as many people will produce almost twice as much land, water, and air pollution, despite all attempts to minimize it. But the left will NEVER reveal information that could disrupt their nation-wrecking plans. That’s where people like Dr. Moore and I step in. We tell you the truth and then ask you to trust but verify. Inject some common sense into the process while you’re at it

  33. Greenpeace has always been anti-human. In fact if we were to follow every environmental organization, us little people would be relegated to living in mud huts, wearing animal skins and living to the ripe old age of 25. Never believe an enviro wacko and never do what they tell you.

      1. I meant it is interesting that the co-founder of Greenpeace which leans decidedly to the left is a global warming skeptic. I thought that most people with normally functioning grey matter would understand the implication of a simple word in the context of the article.

  34. Forget the climate, humans can do nothing about it.

    What SHOULD be feared, is a population that refuses to stand-up to tyrannical government.

  35. I think the tide has turned, the AGW scam is all but dead. This guy is a breath of fresh air. I want a clean environment, but I know we gotta’ balance it with having a standard of living, and I know damned well that co2 is NOT a pollutant, it is NOT a particulate, it is NOT destroying the environment. Being able to tax and regulate a trace, odorless, colorless gas is the biggest sham in history.

  36. Well they were all screaming of a mini ice age and global cooling in the 70’s. That turned to Global Warming, now a more generic climate change. Any way you look at it Man has little to no actual impact of the Earth’s climate on a global scale. Our weather and the cooling and warming trends are dictated by our sun. The more active it is the hotter and more violent our weather. The sun is in the middle of a solar maximum thus increasing the likelihood of violent weather. Now as the sun’s activity starts to fall as it moves past the midway point in the cycle things will start to settle down. When the sun goes into its minimum phase temperatures will fall and could cause another mini ice age like the one that hit in the 1460’s

      1. And now NOAA has finally (no doubt reluctantly) released temperature data from its subset of ultra accurate terrestrial temperature gauges. These are spread fairly uniformly across the US and have evidently been in place since 2005, so almost a decade. Turns out that the US temperature has, during that period, dropped by about 1/2 degree! I haven’t noticed any mention of this by the lying denying major news media.

        Of course, that’s consistent. Neither have they been admitting that there has been no additional temperature increase for the past 17 years.

  37. If you understand the dramatic effect CO2-breathing, oxygen-emitting cyanobactaria had on the earth’s early poisonous atmosphere BEFORE plant life came into existence, you should also understand that cyanobacteria alone can easily deal with man-made CO2. Not only do they welcome it, plants welcome it as well. They will increase in number, produce more oxygen in return, and that extra oxygen will interact with any extra methane produced by cow farts and termites.

    Kill termites and make room for more cows! Oh, and keep warm this coming winter. It’s going to be brutal!

  38. Not at all surprised. Liberals fear everything – global warming … I guess now global cooling too (wish they’d make up their minds). They also fear storms (global C or W), too much snow ((global C or W), too much rain (global C or W), record cold or heat (global C or W). Then add all the other fears – guns, pictures of guns, grade-schoolers pointing fingers like guns (terrifies them), loosing their welfare, too much freedom, the 2nd A, the 1st A, the constitution ( boy do they fear that – or is it they just hate that), taking care of one’s self, giving birth, smoking,
    all religion (except for mother earth & Islam), other people’s moral compass, etc. etc, etc …. and the biggest one of all …. the truth.

  39. For the 20% that still believe this nonsense I will sell you a family pack of my official AGW Tin Foil Hats for 5% of your yearly income.

    1. Interestingly, the popular media is rather uninformed and make no attempt to educate the public, leaving them at the mercy of lying, liberal, shyster, snake-oil politicians.

      The earth is currently in a warm interglacial period, the “Holocene”, within an *ongoing* ice age.

      The glacial ice will come again (7,000-10,000 years) but not within your lifetime.

  40. Articles like this are causing the left to panic. They want that carbon tax! One more brutal winter due to the continuing thickening of ice at both poles and their plans are doomed! Their carefully orchestrated global warming hoax will have been for naught. That’s OK with Al Gore. He got carbon-filthy rich while perpetrating and perpetuating this disgusting warming hoax as did many money-grubbing leftists.

  41. Patrick Moore’s decision to leave the environmental movement proved exactly what it really is: a bunch of extreme leftists whose only tactic is vilification. They savaged Moore for his principled stand. This is what they do and it is all they do. Their message has NO LEGITIMACY IN ANY ASPECT OF PUBLIC DEBATE!!

  42. The best thing about Greenpeace is their entertainment value when they decide to pull their aggressive, seal-righteous stunts on the Russians. Just like the entitled blacks who are in Eastern Europe and start their classic jungle behavior…..Neither the Russians nor East Europeans are controlled by the thought police, corrupt DOJ, and political correctness. The punishment to these idiots is swift and memorable. And sometimes lethal. Now that’s entertainment.

  43. Isn’t BS warm when it is deposited? Aren’t cows a ‘global’ animal? Then I guess there really is global warming, because all cows defecate, right?

    1. There, there. It sucks when people catch on to the con moments before the big payoff. But take solace that, while the global warming scam has not yet completely wrecked commerce, it has done some damage. For example, the EPA is so very close to driving the cost of coal fired power generation to the stratosphere, as it were.

  44. Cooling in the ’60s and ’70s, warming in the ’80s and ’90s and now… Back to cooling. Yup, climate DOES change and there is not much Man can do about it, except try to use this as a way to pick other peoples’ pockets…

  45. The inventor of the internet, Al Gore, used climate models in 2007 to predict that by 2013 the ENTIRE Arctic ice cap would have melted. In September of 2013 it was the LARGEST it had been in 35 YEARS!

    The religion of global warming takes way too much faith to believe.

  46. If you believe CO2 is truly the driver of climate change (I.E. Warming), here is one thing we all can do to help out just a little.

    Smash your brains out with a brick.

    As it turns out, science tells us that -just people- breathing puts out almost 3 billion tons of Carbon yearly. If we want to be really honest here, there are a lot of animals that breath as well. Those must also be killed. It’s the only way to preserve life as we know it.


    It does amuse me that the carbon cycle is used as a method to say that breathing doesn’t add CO2 into the air but then it -completely ignores- the fact that all plants use CO2 in their respiratory system. It really amuses me when ‘Science’ with a capital ‘S’ then declares that we know how much CO2 is absorbed by plant life and therefore can make accurate predictions on how much will be left over after their cycle. Uh huh. Ok. At least they admit that they are guessing, but how about we don’t turn off our ability to generate -necessary electricity- in order to achieve that foolhardy and illogical goal.

    Go invent fusion if you’re so good at ‘Science’ with a capital ‘S’. See, now -that- would be a solution instead of fear mongering. Instead we’re told that we need to go back to the stone age while our betters enjoy their air conditioning and private jets. Sorry. I don’t buy it. People become climatologists because they know it’s an exercise in futility that is impossible to prove. It’s the holy grail of science grant writing. Nothing more, nothing less.

    (Oh snap, I forgot that when we die we add carbon into the environment. I guess we would actually need to launch ourselves into the sun to really get away. Only…what happens when you add 4 billion people into a star? Does it increase it’s output? Probably not, BUT THAT’S A DANGER! HOW CAN WE DIE SAFELY TO SAVE LIFE BY KILLING IT!?!)

    1. A 100 years or so from now the people that believed Global Warming/Climate Change/Climate Disruption/Whatever-they’re-calling-it-now will be looked at the same as the people who believed in Greek and Roman mythology. All made up fantasy by pagans.

      1. I’d compare it more to the tulip bulb craze in Holland 100s of years ago…

        Basically the same thing, wild speculation, except here we have “leaders” making
        policy based on an insane mania.

  47. Why aren’t we reading article like this in the New York Times or the Washington Post? They claim to be beacons of truth.

    Also, take a look at the map of the world and imagine a warmer climate just a few degrees to the north. Vast expanses of North America and Siberia would become available for farming enabling us to easily feed the world.

  48. Even after 18 years of cooling & a very cold winter, its difficult to get the word out when media like the BBC & the LA times won’t allow disenting views to be heard. The intolerance of the global warming facists to any oposing view is amazing and just shows how precarious their “facts” are.

    1. Hang on.
      Wait for the other shoe to drop.
      Global warming actually causes ice ages.
      Coming soon to an LSM outlet near you!
      “Didn’t you see “The Day After Tomorrow”?” will be their cry!

    1. They have already attacked him and tried to discredit him, as they do to all who commit heresy against the Church of Climate Scientology.

  49. I root for the Japanese fishermen when that group of self-righteous environmentalists try to stop them from fishing. Oooo, they are so brave with their stink bombs, Oooo they are so tough with their little boats. They cry over the death of a single whale, but I bet you a dollar every one of them supports a woman’s right to kill her baby.

    1. Me too. I get all animated when those sanctimonious little snot-noses invariably pull a major boner. A great example of this was when that idiot bimbo almost broke her pelvis as she and three other trollops attempted to “deliver a warrant” to one of the Yūshin Maru harpoon ships. Epic Fail. And the Japanese got their whale…

  50. When the media only shows a {one side fits all } story …I see enough Red Flags to start 1,000 Communist Parades……Ice Age in the 70,s Acid Rain and O Zone in the 80,S ,,Y 2K 2000 The world will stop ……and 2010 NYC is under water along with South FLA…. You can fool the MSNBC kool aid bunch The liberal media brainwashed them years ago.. Today we have social media,internet,Fox News. We can read and hear more than just the liberal propaganda.. So the old media can,t control us free thinkers and they hate that…

  51. Gee you mean the earth goes on a warming and cooling cycle??? Who would have guessed listening to a libtart you would think all the earth did was heat up and then lets not forget the C02 that ALL plants and the Earth needs unless your a libtart then no one needs it and we should be in the dark living in caves.

  52. They will say whatever they think will appeal to potential joiners or contributors.

    “Step right up! What do you want to hear? Yeah, we have that!”

    I’m waiting to hear that Global Climate Change is endangering the world’s supply of chocolate. It’s coming. Oh, yes, it is.

  53. it would have made a good joke— all the people that was suckered in but the warmist— kinda like the Mayan calender– or Y2K computer crash— but i can hardly laugh when i count the jobs that have been destoryed— don’t seem to funny

    1. Just your country? They, like the man-made climate change alarmist will destroy humanity just as fast as the liberal, socialist like, progressives.

  54. Only the Europeans take all this global warming seriously. The rest of the countries in the world use it like extortion to get money from the Europeans. But most of the money goes to the extremely wealthy and politically connected already like Al Gore for instance.

  55. They selected their “Science” by contorting it to their political agenda. Apparently they had little concern about how utterly fking stupid they would look when their “facts” fell apart.

  56. Let me guess, all of the participants of this conference in Las Vegas all flew there and then climbed in limos to get them around as they dined of exotic foods shipped in fresh by plane. More liberal “Do as I say, not as I do”. Thank you but no.

  57. Being a fence sitter on the topic–and not pretending I have any substantial education on the topic and remain open to the arguments from both directions–I’m dismayed that the comments here are almost entirely from deniers–no doubt mostly because this is a link from Drudge.

      1. You two are funny. I’m not liberal at all. I usually argue against the AGW fanatics with what little knowledge I have. It would be nice to see an actual debate here instead of just a one sided party. The comments here are mostly just vitriol.

    1. The first step in learning is admitting that you don’t know.
      You do not need more than a fifth grade education to look at the official government
      and university monthly global temperature and CO2 databases dating from 1850 to conclude that the CO2 CAGW is invalid. These databases show multi-decade warming trends and cooling trends independent of the steady increase in CO2.
      None of the 114 simulations of 37 CMIP5 models correspond to the following data.
      It was warming from 1850 to 1879, 1910 to 1942 and 1972 to 2002.
      It was cooling from 1879 to 1910, 1942 to 1972 and from 2002 to now while CO2 was increasing.
      In the last decade CO2 emission are increasing at a rate of over 3% which is twice the 1960s rate. In the last decade global temperatures have been declining.
      If you are as smart as a fifth grader, you can look up this data yourself. Otherwise you can remain a useful idiot advertising yourself as such.

    2. Maybe the comments are from, as you call them DENIERS because people are waking up the fact that Global warming is a bunch of BS. I guess you could say I’m an expert, I’ve seen 67 winters in my life so far and the last one was the coldest and snowiest I’ve ever seen. Snow on the pyramids in Cairo, snow in Jerusalem, people in Australia complaining it was the coldest summer they can remember, if anything we are going into another ice age. The left sent a boat last fall to Antarctica to prove the ice was disappearing, quess what! It got stuck in the ice, then the ship sent to rescue it got stuck too. Global Warming ROFLMAO

      1. You are correct. Sceptics is the proper term. Sceptic implies that one is actually listening to the argument of the other side and weighing its validity. Being able to weigh the validity requires some knowledge of the topic. If the sceptics are correct, then you have today quite an amazing phenomenon in the history of modern science. Check out the wikipedia page “Scientific opinion on climate change.” The VAST consensus of those who should have the required knowledge are pro-AGW. The percentages hit the upper 90 percentiles. How can so many here so easily dismiss such an overwhelming opposition? A level of error in the scientific community at that great amount would point to a very dangerous and fundamental problem in the sciences. “Sceptics” should also be accompanied by “the greatly worried” if this is the case. It may be more productive to find out how such a dangerous phenomenon could occur. I’d like to hear that explanation.

    3. Its pretty hard to argue against the patently obvious. So I guess we’re to believe that the founder of Greenpeace is part of the .01% of scientists who deny global warming? Right! And if you knew anything about scientific methodology you would no longer be a fence-sitter.

        1. Yeah let me guess… 99.9% of all scientists believe in Global Warming. That statistic was produced by the same sloppy “scientific methodology” that drives this entire industry. “Well, let’s ask 100 scientists at a global warming conference what they think, and then we’ll just extrapolate that number for all scientists”. Some of them may know about scientific methodology, but if they do they’re using that knowledge to avoid it. And if AGW really exists and is the problem, why was it rebranded “Climate Change”? Because GW/CC is branding, messaging and control than it is about science. GW is nothing but politically motivated slop “science”. Period.

    4. But Drudge is the only place you’ll find this. Go to the NYT site and look up this guy and his speech. You won’t find it. Why is that? What’s objective about that? According to your leftist enemies, the science is settled. Last time I checked, science was only science when it was proven through repeatable, observable experiments. Science is based in fact, not in the majority. The majority agrees doesn’t make it science. Don’t ever forget that, and you’ll find yourself on the path to rational thought in a world of irrational progressives.

    5. No doubt your claim of “fence sitter” is mostly false. Your characterization of skeptics, including legitimately credentialed scientists, as “deniers” pretty much belies your objectivity and open-mindedness.

  58. I can see why they kicked you out – they couldn’t understand your logical, cogent, intelligent analysis of world climate especially when it couldn’t be used as a hammer to go with their sickle of death and communism. Ever notice how radical liberals marched for freedom but rule with illogical iron fists incapable of seeing the damage they are doing and lack of freedom in their new “design.” Can’t wait til these old fuckers die off and the world throws off their ignorant practices, tears down their monuments, and shits on their reputations throughout future history.

  59. I can fix climate change, but it will be expensive. I will need about half of your income. E-mail your bank account information ASAP. Remember, it it all for the children!

  60. Bush caused global warming! Bush caused global warming! Bush caused global warming! …….What’s that? …. … No way!! Oh well. Bush caused global cooling! Bush caused global cooling!………..

  61. Republican Fascists do control the media as one poster put it but backwards. They control all of talk radio, Faux & others & of course the KGB guides the entire process.

    1. They control the legitimate media, because they aren’t a bunch of partisan, cheerleading hacks like on most other stations. Most of the MSM has siblings working as advisors in this White House. No conflict of interest there. And that’s why all the best news anchors and reporters are quitting the other networks and moving to Fox.

  62. I’m just spit balling here, but I don’t think this information will be on the front page of any major U.S. cities newspaper anytime soon. Just remember, only 12,000 years ago North America was under hundreds of feet of ice and sea levels were 300 ft. lower… like the good Dr. says, it’s a good thing the Earth has warmed up some…

    1. If you look back in their history, they’ve already done that.

      70s — Mini ice age
      80s — Hole in the ozone layer.
      90s — Relatively quiet while they cooked up global warming.

      They’ve just been riding that train for a lot of people’s lifetime, and they finally gained some traction.

          1. It was debunked after Gulf War I, for those who paid attention.

            The burning oil fields allowed climate scientists to test the hypothesis on a credible scale.

  63. Dr. Moore, thank you for this important information. How has geoengineering affected the climate? As we know, geoengineering is the artificial modification of Earths climate systems through two primary ideologies, Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR). In layman’s terms, we are all being sprayed with chemicals that are responsible for many of today’s ailments. It’s the crime of the century and nobody’s talking about it. Why? See geoengineeringwatch dot org

  64. I would never base current weather on cooling or warming. But here in Michigan this summer, it’s been darn right cool and wet. Lake Michigan is up 15″ from a year ago!! Think about how much water that is, wow.
    Alarmist were grabbing attention by saying the Great Lakes water level could drop 3 feet. Good grief…

  65. Carbon dioxide is the most important chemical for the production of plant life and food production. It is pumped into greenhouses in order to increase production and growth. Did you ever think that the push to reduce carbon dioxide could be a purposeful attempt to reduce food production causing worldwide famine and chaos? This would give the one worlders their excuse to take over everything.

  66. For years, the Leftists taking refuge in these once-reasonable, honorable special interest groups have been throwing everything they’ve got at Dr. Patrick Moore; and all he has is THE TRUTH!

  67. “Chem-trail’ weather modification has been in full swing for decades… Just look up and take note, then Google “Chem-trails’…

  68. Dems are trying to legislate a narrative change hurting the
    American people in the process! All Democrats and supporters here and abroad,
    are trying to flood the media with hysterical climate change & global
    warming alarms and fabricated evidence to take the heat off Dem candidates in
    the November 2014 and 2016 elections due to the train wreck of Obamacare! They
    shout, scream, cry, make outlandish claims and won’t stop till after the
    elections! Poor Democrats! The tsunami cometh!

  69. Yes, idiot you should fear global cooling because the scientists say that it is far worse than global warming. Gee, imagine that! Hard to survive when you are freezing and there are no crops to eat!

  70. More than having a fear of global cooling, I would have to imagine that Dr. Patrick Moore has an even bigger aversion to becoming irrelevant. And, of course, boneheaded, as most ‘climate change’ cultists appear to be…

  71. Having children and perpetual adolescents blindly following climate hysteria has proven to be immensely profitable and useful to the climate hysteria industry.

    1. Governments fund warming studies at a rate if billions of dollars, why on earth would a scientist who depends on this spending negate it? It is a cult, the religion of the left.

  72. I believe the tide is turning!

    Expanding sea ice in Antarctica for 35 years (and counting)? Global warming.
    Receding sea ice in the Arctic? Global warming.
    Horror of horrors: Re-emergence of the sea ice in the Arctic? Global warming.
    All due to nothing more than changing wind patterns? Global warming.
    No upward trend in surface-based temperatures for 17 years, and counting — i.e., the Big Pause? Global warming.
    Era that preceded the Big Pause? Global warming.
    Hysterical predictions that don’t come true? Global warming.
    One failed climate model after another? Global warming.
    Evidence of fraudulent research? Global warming.
    Medieval Warming Period and Little Ice Age? Global warming.

    On one hand, there is no such thing as contra-positive evidence, but, on the other, at last, the Warmists are beginning to sweat! HA! I do believe the cat is out of the bag. Wait until the next satellite images arrive in October! We will likely see (more) stunning evidence of expanding ice in the Arctic! The game is over, except for the tears. The heartbreak will be intense. Keep an eye on the beloved NY Times!

      1. True, but this is becoming a parody. I believe the tide has turned. The (contra-positive) evidence is truly compelling. I am growing more optimistic with each passing day. Stay tuned!

  73. Doesn’t matter what you believe, what we do to the earth is inconsequential when compared to one volcano or one forest fire. What is sick is trying to steal money by taxing poor people to pay for the lavish parties or the Uber Wealthy that control the money flow. If ever there was a need for a bio weapon to kill the 6000 controllers of this planet, now would be the time to release it.

  74. the Sierra Club was bribed with 100 million dollars by open borders zealot David Gelbaum on the one condition- they could never mention immigration and its effect on the environment again.
    Want to help relieve global warming? then enact an immigration moratorium on all immigration from low carbon output countries to high carbon output western countries.

  75. MMGW is a proven scam , just look at the ice core data , the 800 year lag proves CO2 doesn’t and never will drive climate . At best it’s a tiny positive reinforcement but can’t hold a candle to sunspots and water vapor.

  76. MMGW is a proven scam , just look at the ice core data , the 800 year lag proves CO2 doesn’t and never will drive climate . At best it’s a tiny positive reinforcement but can’t hold a candle to sunspots and water vapor.

    1. Remember in the 70’s the claim of a coming ice age

      Climate scientists did not make any such claim. You’re confused between the media and scientific literature. The majority of scientists have recognized the threat of warming since the 19th century when the greenhouse hypothesis was first argued. Nearly 200 years of physics research and the laws of thermodynamics prove beyond a doubt that increasing GHG impacts the global radiative balance i.e. a positive feedback.

        1. Why do you keep confirming that you’re scientifically ignorant? Like drunks I usually ignore the ignorant but obviously you can read and Team Denial wants knowledgeable skeptical scientists on their side. So let me help you get some way to being knowledgeable and prevent you from embarrassing Team Denial by regurgitating debunkable nonsense.

          Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s. You regurgitate the enduring popular myth that suggests that in the 1970s the climate science community was predicting “global cooling” and an “imminent” ice age. Read the paper by M. Connolley, John Fleck, 2008: The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., 89, 1325–1337. In essence, this paper shows the falsehood of the myth and more importantly describes how scientists of the time built the foundation on which the cohesive enterprise of modern climate science now rests.

          Further, between 1965 and 1979, 44 scientific papers predicted warming, 20 were neutral and just 7 predicted cooling. So while predictions of cooling got more media attention, the majority of scientists were predicting warming even then.

          1. Oh you are so so right, that ‘…..Climate science as we know it today did not exist in the 1960s and 1970s…’
            Back then actual science, using the scientific method was being used – scientists did not expect to become millionaires doing the drudgery that ‘true or actual’ science entails.
            Today its all about consensus science, manipulation of data and most importantly, creating a majority of useful idiots – men that will believe “NOTHING” so they can be convinced into believing ‘ANYTHING’ that is told to them.

            1. Team denial requests that you stop posting nonsense about climate science. It is evident you’re clueless and an embarrassment to skeptical climate scientists. Your inane erroneous opinion in your comments show a fundamental lack of grasp of science research which tars all of Team Denial with the brush of ignorance.

      1. “majority of scientists”

        Like 97%, you mean like three in a group of three point something. If you cant even get the math of percentages down, how do you expect anyone to believe your other BS.

      2. That rubbish has been thoroughly debunked by literally 100’s of articles published all over the world reporting on scientiest holding meetings and conferences to discuss the coming cooling to some even predicting an ice age.

        CBS had ‘what’s his name’ report that scientists were so concerned about the inevitable ice age on our ‘doorstep’, that they pondered dropping a A-bomb on the north pole or covering it with soot to melt the ice and save America. You actually believe the media just made it up as they went along? What a joke pompus people like you are.

        Unlike today, people were far more advanced in critical thinking than the current generation (who actually go to college but e.g. cannot name 1 of 100 U.S. Senators) and would not be reporting ‘crazy’ hoaxes like they do today e.g. this global warming crap that is nothing more than an attempt to create another ‘bubble’ to redistribute money to the rich and bankers, with cap and TRADE (and pay me my trillions in commissions and then pass on the increased in energy costs to the middle class).

        You have your head up your rear you probably think Obama wants to skyrocket energy costs because he wants to ‘save’ the planet and not curry favor and become one of the ultra rich (the ONLY people he and his wife hang out with when they are not doing photo ops to fool dweebs like yourself).

        Back then the media and the NY Times were trustworthy institutions – the Times was a paper read by millions – left and right and you could have a discussion. It was said back then that ‘….You could get a college degree by reading the NY Times….’ When the father died or retired and the son took over, he turned the NY Times into a leftist rag, that only fools like you read and believe.

        What lie and rewrite of history are you going to tell us next? Lincoln was a democrat? Reagan is not a conservative?

        1. Science ignorance is pervasive in our society. Thank you for the confirmation. Team Denial requests that you do not comment on this subject as you embarrass genuine skeptical scientists with your crap.

      3. Never said that in my post, you should completely read it before reacting. And now the popular media is global warm….., er I mean, a consensu… I mean, climate change. Yeah that’s it climate change, that is what they are calling now. And their was “consensus” about the new ice age then, as their is about the earf catching fire now. I wonder what the weather fad will be in the next few years. Trust me when I say this, reporters will print what the “popular” science of the day happens to be.
        So what about the GHG’s of thousands of years past. Now they are saying that this is due to human activity. What will they think of next?

        Foolishness is thinking that we can change the climate.
        Now go cash you Soros pay check.

        1. Do you struggle to read your own words? In case you missed the first time let me repeat as some are slower than others:

          Remember in the 70’s the claim of a coming ice age

          Team Denial insists that if you want to discuss climate change you need to be a well-versed skeptic scientist, which you’re not. Otherwise you’ll just be a sloppy and an undisciplined not-very-smart denier who like your ilk lost the tobacco and flat earth battles. Don’t screw legitimate skeptical science by you being dumb.

          1. I guess for you pretending that others are saying things that is not there is normal for you. I think you have to go, I see the short bus is there to pick you up, dont forget your helmet.

              1. Read your post you called me “dumb.” Don’t start nothing and there won’t be nothing. I see I was right about you not reading my post but rather pretending words exist where thy don’t.

                1. Pouting won’t change your dumbness that excludes you from Team Denial. We need competent scientifically literate folk so you’re excluded. Now move on and go start learning about science so that you may be able to put your big boy science pants on some time in the very distant future. Until then you are disbarred from Team Denial.

      4. You aren’t well-versed enough to be an ordained priest in the Church of Climate Scientology, so obviously you are a mere acolyte.

        I’m sure you consider the CRU at the University of East Anglia to be a credible source of climate science. You know the place – lifelong home of Phil Jones, of Climategate infamy, and its current director. When Jones was still a student, UEA established its Climate Research Unit. Its first director was Hubert Lamb. He was among those first predicting a coming ice age in the early 70s. Perhaps he wasn’t an actual climate scientist, but they have a building named for him on campus.

      1. You mean the Amazon Jungle, right? And Indonesia? Malaysia? Greenhouses?

        Deserts don’t tend to have much lush green-ness. That includes Antarctica, which is ALSO a desert.

  77. Mr Tee Said “I pity the fool” referring to those Democrats who were promised 200 million dollars by a wealthy Wall Streeter to their campaigns if they they
    promise to run on Global Warming platform. Good luck on that one Dems.

    1. Consult with a geologist or paleoclimatologist before posting silliness and letting Team Denial down. Team Denial insists that if you want to discuss climate change you need to be a well-versed skeptic scientist, which you’re not. Otherwise you’ll just be a sloppy and an undisciplined not-very-smart denier who like your ilk lost the tobacco and flat earth battles. Don’t screw legitimate skeptical climate science by you being dumb.

      1. Denial insists that if you want to discuss climate change you need to be a well-versed skeptic scientist, which you’re not.

        Genetic fallacy.

        “Scientists” have claimed for decades that fat makes you fat. I eat a lot of fat and am slim and athletic.

        “Scientists” look at their studies and tell me that my scale and eyes must be wrong, since their studies are always right.

        Anyway scientists are now admitting that they censored data that proved that fat was healthy.

        AGW is like the “fat is bad” of the 21st century.

        1. Now if you ever want to be eligible to join Team Denial you need to stick with the science at hand and not segue off topic. Don’t post dumb statements and let your side down.

      2. Any scientist worth their salt welcomes skepticism, criticism, and the opportunity for further inquiry. Quacks, on the other hand throw around phrases like “settled science” (of which there is no such thing). If Einstein had accepted that science was settled we would have never benefitted from the Theory of Relativity, and Special Relativity. Quacks also feel the need to make up perjorative labels for people who question their “conclusions,” like “Team Denial” “deniers” etc. Real scientists call people who question their conclusions “distinguished colleagues.”

    2. And also about the Dark Ages where the use of scientific knowledge to manipulate the masses was rampant (sound all too familiar?). And the Age of Reason(aka the Enlightenment) that followed where the strict application of the scientific method was de rigeur, and the dogged pursuit of objective scientific truth led to some of the greatest discoveries of mankind. You wont find that happening in today’s scientific community, which is ruled by political favoritism (aka Grant Money) to manufacture politically expedient “science.” Lets all hope for the Second Age of Reason to come along real soon…

      1. There’s far too much money and power at stake for any “dogged pursuit of objective scientific truth.”

        Leftists worship “credentialed” people as if they are somehow perfect, objective humans with no possibility of greed, being intimidated, or just wanting to go with the crowd.

        We all know that PhD’s are so objective and dedicated that they would never stoop to doing anything purely for money…

        Which is why many of them are going into software development from things like English Literature…because you don’t need credentials and you can make much more money….

  78. Moore is breath of fresh air…

    I agree that how CAGW is taught in schools must change.

    The irony is that all student born after June 1996 have not experienced ONE DAY of “global warming” since global warming trends have been flat for the past 18 years:

    The discrepancies between CAGW hypothetical projections vs. reality have become so large, under the rules of the Scientific Method, this entire hypothesis will have to be disconfirmed in about 5 years:

    It’s a shame how gullible most people have become the CAGW scam.

    $Trillions have been wasted already on this disconfirmed hypothesis, but it can’t last much longer. It’s already become a joke.

    1. Don’t cut an paste when you’re not up to speed with climate science. Firstly, no models start in 1975, they are able to run the records back nearly 800,000 years. To demonstrate the alleged ‘pause’ in context show at least the last 10,000, 1,000, and 500 years (it disappears of course). Secondly, you have only given the global surface anomalies for 20S-20N and excluded the polar regions, upper and deep oceans where temperature anomalies were the highest in the record. Surface temperatures represent 2% of the overall warming of the global climate for which warming has ‘paused’ (similar pauses occur throughout the record – see prior note on selective data presentation). The other 98% goes to land, ice, upper and deep ocean warming which has increased in energy approximately 275 ZJ during the time period you proffer. Now if warming as you postulate has paused the energy gain would be zero ZJ. 90% of the energy is heating the upper and deep ocean with the latter now containing more than 40% of the increased energy. The oceans are heating at a rapid pace equivalent to 4 Hiroshima atomic bomb detonations per second. You may want to view the Kelvin wave that is currently emerging in the eastern Pacific and bringing some of this energy to the surface and 2014 and 2015 could be record troposphere temperatures.

      1. You drivel a lot with phrases that sound like they are very, very important and objective but…

        The models were ALL WRONG. And not just a little wrong. WAY WRONG.

        People who were skeptical of the models twenty years ago were attacked. Turns out they/we were right.

        1. Thank you for confirming that you’re not a scientist or even science literate at grade 7 level and consider obnoxious ignorance a virtue.

          1. Thank you!
            You see, I’ve developed a computer model that predicts when liberals will come back with a response you would expect from a ten year old, like you just did.
            Unlike the silly models being used by the hoaxers, my model is 98% accurate.
            Thanks again.

            1. Once again you demonstrate that you are a solid member of our society that is scientifically ignorant. You clearly consider that science is useless to you, then I wonder how you manage to post text messages on internet forums with your computer? My suggestion to you is to stay away from electronic equipment and out of aircraft and hospitals. They are just filled with lefty technology.

  79. Patrick Moore is NOT a co-founder of Greenpeace. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970.
    Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971
    after the organization had already been in existence for a year.

        1. Here’s what Wiki says “Patrick Moore (born 1947) is a Canadian ecologist, known as one of the early members of Greenpeace, in which he was an environmental activist from 1971 to 1986. Today he is the co-founder, chair, and chief scientist of Greenspirit Strategies in Vancouver, a consulting firm that provides paid public relations efforts, lectures, lobbying, opinions and committee participation to government and industry on a wide range of environmental and sustainability issues. He is a frequent public speaker at meetings of industry associations, universities, and policy groups.” Maybe you are wrong about him lying. Maybe the author of the article misread.

    1. ‘…… Moore joined the committee in 1971 and, as Greenpeace co-founder Bob Hunter wrote, “Moore was quickly accepted into the inner circle on the basis of his scientific background, his reputation [as an environmental activist], and his ability to inject practical, no-nonsense insights into the discussions…..’

      Now from the very website of Greenpeace, it says about their history, ‘…..A group of thoughtful, committed citizens came together in 1971 to create Greenpeace…’

      GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU LIED ABOUT IT BEING FOUNDED IN 1970 WHEN THEIR WEBSITE SAYS 1971. /SARC EVERYONE KNOWS THAT’S ALL YOU LIBS KNOW HOW TO DO – LIE LIE LIE ‘…if you like your doctor….save $2,500 a year ….’ . And we all know what you will come back with, ‘…..What difference does it make….I take the 5th Amendment….oh, I’m sorry, yes, I did get a request for all my emails but ten days later my hard drive crashed and they removed destroyed the hard drive and even though we spent several billions on IT and could have backed up everything, we didn’t…’ No matter what the topic is, all you get are lies from the left.

      What you are arguing is silly semantics but that’s what leftist do best – act like children, and ignore logic, basic science and try to divert attention away from (adult) reality so that real problems can be addressed and solved. You want to spend all day and night, and just argue that because a John Doe didn’t sign the Declaration of Independence on July 4th, but e.g. two days after it was signed he ‘joined’ the group ‘…and was quickly accepted into the inner circle…’ that ‘ …he’s not the founder of the country…’

      I am so sick of you morons and your petty childish arguments.

      No wonder drools like you fall for hoaxes like global warming.

      You suffer from the classic malady ‘…he who believes in NOTHING, will believe ANYTHING that’s told to him…’ That’s right out of Alinksy and Karl Marx and King Obama and every other two bit dictator who has walked on this planet.

  80. and is instead a sometime staff member of Sen James “Global Warming
    is a Hoax” Inhofe (R-OK), who is the most prominent denier of global
    warming science in Congress. Morano also a former producer for the Rush
    Limbaugh Show, and has stated that climate scientists should be
    “publicly flogged”. Just FYI.

    1. Oops–first half of that got chopped off–it should read: Climate
      Depot is also supported (via CFACT) by the Heartland Institute. As
      SourceWatch guy who runs ClimateDepot – Marc Morano – has no science
      expertise and is instead a sometime staff member of Sen James “Global
      is a Hoax” Inhofe (R-OK), who is the most prominent denier of global
      warming science in Congress. Morano also a former producer for the Rush
      Limbaugh Show, and has stated that climate scientists should be
      “publicly flogged”.

      1. Marc Morano – has no science expertise and is instead a sometime staff member of Sen James “Global Warming…

        Appeal to authority fallacy. No true scientist would fall for it.

        Reality is reality.

        At least the same percentage of “scientists” agreed that fat was bad for you.

        It’s not.

        The scientists in charge ADMITTED not refusing to publish articles with contrary proof.

        Same thing with AGW.

      2. The high priest of the IPCC has no science background. Nor does the guy who runs SkepticalScience, but nearly every acolyte of the Church of Climate Scientology gets their regular buggering there. What’s your point?

    2. Morano also a former producer for the Rush Limbaugh Show, and has stated that climate scientists should be “publicly flogged”. Just FYI.

      Genetic fallacy. Your arguments are all based on logical fallcies.

      Anyway, it was probably a joke. On the other hand, leftists SERIOUSLY want to put global warming realists in jail.

    3. What do you think they meant by ‘publicly flogged’? ( Hint: Do you think F. Lee Bailey ‘publicly flogged’ Marc Furhman in his cross examination of him? Anything wrong there? Don’t think so, but I know how to think – you libs don’t and you prove it almost everytime you post something).

      You are the classic case of someone who should keep their mouth shut – because that’s the only way you have a chance of not being judged a fool.

  81. People are so stupid that they will believe anything. I have met people that buy anything from global warming to the planet being 10,000 years old.

  82. Global income redistribution, global cap and trade, global arms control…there’s a group of libs who want no borders and global everything. Obama and the libocrats march to their drummer. The kids today are being fed this concept non-stop in the colleges and that’s all they know. Many of our young have become mindless robots of the left and are going to be in for a rude awakening when they have to work full time, raise a family, and pay taxes.

  83. From the Pall Mall Gazette January 10 1871…Yes 1871
    According to the IPCC, temperatures were cold in 1871, sea level was much lower, and the climate was much more stable. All of this utter nonsense – nothing more than well financed superstition. The same mindless superstition which infected academics in 1871.

    We have often noticed that in the tabular statements of those compilers of weather records who write to the Times, useful and welcome as their communications are, every season is sure to be “extraordinary,” almost every month one of the driest or wettest, or windiest, coldest or hottest, ever known. Much observation, which ought to correct a tendency to exaggerate, seems in some minds to have rather a tendency to increase it.

  84. Oh no it’s cooling ,better tax it . You can’t believe anything these morons say. Nobody actually cares about anything these people say .They just want good scared slaves

  85. They tell us the debate is over and if you disagree they call you a flat earther. Well the debate has just begun and the only thing flat is the global warmer’s heads.

          1. More of an example of a narcissistic sociopath. While claiming that he is superior to others, and “understands science”, he hasn’t demonstrated an iota of science literacy or knowledge. He doesn’t respond to legitimate questions, but only responds with insult and arrogance. He apparently took part in Occupy Danbury (CT). Doesn’t that tell you all you need to know?

      1. vacmancan, you are living your life on the basis of the first quote below. Try to live it on the basis of the second:

        1) “It is by it’s promise of a sense of power that evil often attracts the weak” Eric Hoffer

        2) “You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

  86. AGW plays on perceptual fallacies most people have about random phenomena or processes. In a true random process, like our climate (weather) system, records are always expected to be broken. This is in conflict with the human perceptual fallacy of consistency, e.g., that weather, or just about anything else for that matter should pretty much stay the same from year to year. Take sea levels, for example. There is a percpetion, again, the fallacy of consistency, that sea levels in a given area should be the same more or less. But, sea levels vary for a variety of reasons not related to melting ice or freezing ice. Anyone who has carried a large bowl of water filled to the rim knows how unstable and easily perturbed liquid surfaces can be.

          1. Tune us in, bro. What community access market are you in? We’d all love to see your show. Where is it? Surely you’d like to expand your BADA BING exposure, when you’re not cleaning carpets.

              1. So you DON’T have a CATV show. You have a Youtube account that nobody pays attention to, like a million other noodles. I won’t waste my time.
                Mods, smoke this moronic troll.

                1. Channel 23 basement productions in Danbury Ct. No one watches his BS so he’s here trying to get viewers. It’s the same old insults you see him posting here.

                  1. Does this mean you actually watched his “show”? I could not deign to click on it. Many more lunatics out there just like him, posting nonsense for OFA. Without them, Obama would never have been elected, and the average IQ of the US would go up 10 points.

                    1. No, I’m not interested in his lunacy. I’ve seen clips of his stupidity on a conservative site where they make fun of his make believe world. He’s a nut. He is fixated on me because he thinks my name is Joey (?) and he writes songs to me. He’s kinda light in the loafers and has admitted to liking the guys. The little children call him “Uncle Richie”.

  87. I guess I’m one of the 20% because it’s bullshit to me so there is no
    argument. If the so called intellectuals want to argue about something
    they can’t control then that’s their business. No matter what we do we
    can’t control the world. We can send ourselves back to the stone age and
    it wouldn’t do a damn thing. Because the rest of the world won’t, in
    fact they’ll double down. Also the arrogance of man thinking we can
    control nature let alone the sun is astonishing to me. Bottom line until
    you can get the giant solar panel’s and those goddamn ridiculous eagle
    killing fans streamlined enough to replace the outlet on my wall no one
    cares. So preach your scientific method all day no one cares, most don’t
    even know what it is. But they know they want to flip a switch and turn
    on their TV’s at the end of the day. Start fucking with that and see
    how long “saving the environment” sticks around. You want to change the
    world then create something world changing that can compete or eliminate
    the current energy industry. Because when you try to control and
    restrict people you fail miserably every time. The EPA is already a dead
    agency they just haven’t figured it out yet. Same with the gov that
    runs it.

    1. Sweetheart so you think Solar and Wind don’t work, right????? I wonder who dumbed you down??? You “simpel-folk” are so cute. Thank you.

              1. Superior? Understand science? Gore predicted that by 2013, the entire Arctic ice cap would be melted. It didn’t melt of course, but let’s say that it did. How many meters would the sea level rise?

                1. Crickets. Just as I, and probably everybody else here, thought. You don’t understand ANYTHING about science. Stop Occupying this site, pooflinger.

                  1. Jess_Axen,

                    vacmancan is a TROLL. He never answers questions. He just spams the internet promoting his basement Youtube show full of insults and ignorance. He owns stock in a solar company.

                    He sells vacuum cleaners for a living, drives a gas guzzling van and doesn’t have solar panels on his house in Danbury.

                    He’s a nut.

          1. Depends what you mean by “don’t work”. I looked into solar for my home a year ago. Solar can’t even power half of my home, my roofer tells me it can cause roof damage and the payoff is 20 years. I can’t help but wonder if those panels would even last 20 years. They weren’t warranted for that long, so clearly the manufacturer wasn’t very confident.

            The point is, the devil is always in the details.

      1. Wind is completely unreliable. To deny this is to deny reality. The only way solar will work on a large scale is when we start using space based receptors. Do you realize how much electricity the internet uses?

        1. sh,

          vacmancan sells vacuum cleaners for a living, he knows everything. He’s here trying to get some viewers for his basement produced insult show.
          Pity the little spammer.

      2. They work, but they aren’t scalable to a level that can supply existing global energy needs, nor are they likely to be before the next ice age. Besides that, they only work where the sun shines or the wind blows. Any global catastrophe that diminishes insolation will render solar energy production even less adequate. Why don’t you acolytes ever think things all the way through? Stop pretending that you know anything about this. Smarter “folk” recognize you for what you are.

  88. The “mad rush” to proclaim that “the “sky is falling” is no longer a “liberal mantra” as Hillary has lots of support from “righwingnuts” such as McCain and Graham-To get further to the right, you would have to pass “Attilla the Hun” on the road shoulder-They simply ( The Globalists) figured a way to get the people to pay another “excess charge” after they all went to Vegas with the people’s money.. shut up you NeoCon Morons-

  89. Of course the debate on *global warming* isn’t over. Oh I do love it when people call it *climate change*, as on Earth, climate change has been a constant since time began.

    I don’t know if man is causing *climate change* or contributing or how much if we are. What I do believe is that many of the solutions are scams.

    Carbon trading: a scam to line the pockets of the rich

    Green energy loans: a corporate welfare scam, also a citizen welfare program with welfare subsidies for various purchases

    Government taxes and regulations: power and control

    Carbon neutral: allows rich people to continue to fly around in private jets, yet still pretend they care about the environment

    I don’t trust people who use lies and coercion and chest pounding to further their position. In other words, I am highly suspect of the global warming movement. It has certainly become a political issue far more than it is science. And if man really is a major cause of global warming, that is unfortunate. It will take a lot for the shysters and con men to regain credibility after being caught being dishonest so many times. People with a legitimate argument generally don’t need to use such tactics.

  90. He’s your Puppethead leader, not mine. You elected this empty headed socialist to wake America up, put it to bed and change it’s diapers. Enjoy the Nanny state and the lies it takes to support it’s specious claims on all matters. Own the fail.

  91. We are all watching the effects of Global Ignorance when the empty headed Left just regurgitates what the Propagandist’s tell them! The Left is morally bankrupt, ethically vile, and spiritually void. Continue to confront and push back hard as the Communist’s in this Country need to be put back in to their holes once and for all!

  92. The Government elitists had to have and enemy, so they invented the Al Queda-Now that that “bright idea” has failed and everyone knows that TERORISM IS A GREAT BIG GAME INVENTED BY GOVERNMENT TOMTOM I WILL SHARE THE SECRET WITH YOU it was Regan who first allowed the first illegals in for his Poultry People ( They needed cheap help) it was then BUSH who ordered up a call for Immigration reform ( Comprehensive=amnesty) he, was co-opted ( that means someone stole his thunder) Ya gotta do some reading TOMTOM the history is very simple straight forward reading of the congressional record- The Banks that were too big to fail “walked away with” over 17 trillion dollars and then when they got their bail out they took big payout rewards–TO FIX THIS WE NEED A STEPSTOOL
    A NICE WHITE HORSE AND EITHER A ROPE OR A GUILLOTINE -20 bankers have already committed suicide- start looking at better media reports other than Fox and Cnn -The REPUKES ABDICATED THEIR RUNNING OF GOVERNMENT TO THE NEO CONS
    Just go read Project for the New American Century … carefully it is about 100 pages, and the answers to why we are in the shithouse is very clearly found within the lines of this “plan of world conquest-BOTH PARTIES HAVE TO BE DESTROYED ALONG WITH THE CFR AND THE TRI-LATERAL COMMISSION ( who have been running the country()

  93. Meanwhile….

    Herr Obama has opened up concentration camps where self-described “brownshirts” handle security and photographs are verboten. These are all facts easily proven true for anyone who is skeptical:

    What has happened to America?

  94. The Climate quagmire was backed by Al Gore representing interests like Georgy Soros. It clearly put a line of separation between the rich of the left, and the uber rich of the right, who wanted a scheme less offensive to the spoilers of the earth. it is very simple; COAL FOREVER
    THE BIG GUYS ARE FIGHTING FOR THE LAST CHICKEN AND EGG, That simple-The Carbon credits was just another scheme, just like agenda 21 and “sustainable growth” The people need to start thinking “outside the box”- The only thing that can defeat these bastards
    is knowledge–go do your reading, don’t be afraid to speak to someone who has a different idea, you may learn the truth which we are not getting from Bam Bam or the government

  95. A debate between Al Gore and Dr. Moore would put all this climate change crap to rest.
    Dr. Moore uses science based facts while Al Gore uses scare tactics.

    1. Sweetheart the science is settled there’s no need for a debate. Even the “simpel-folk” who don’t understand science are starting to understand that AGW is happening. Any questions????

        1. Terry,
          vacmancan (the little children call him “Uncle Richie”) is a vacuum cleaner salesman. He knows everything. You’re right on about the bus station but in his case it’s the Public Bathhouse in Danbury.

          He’s a spammer, look at his posting history. The same spam over and over, year after year.

          He’s a nut.

      1. So that is why there has been no warming in over a decade? If you want to have fewer amount of CO2 in the air, you should live by example and stop breathing.

        1. Sweetheart what gives you the idea that there has been no AGW for over a decade??? Please post your evidence so I can make fun of you. Thanks.

      2. Only someone who doesn’t understand science would ever say “the science is settled”. You neither cite nor demonstrate any anthropogenic link to climate change, much less warming that isn’t happening even under an increase in ACO2. You are an obnoxious poser.

  96. 100 reasons why climate change is natural

    Climate change campaigners: 100 reasons why climate change is natural and not man-made []1) There is “no real scientific proof” that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from man’s activity.

    2) Man-madecarbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.

    3) Warmer periods of the Earth’s history came around 800 years before rises in CO2 levels.

    4) After World War II, there was a huge surge in recorded CO2 emissions but global temperatures fell for four decades after 1940.

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    5) Throughout the Earth’s history, temperatures have often been warmer than now and CO2 levels have often been higher – more than ten times as high.

    6) Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time.7) The 0.7C increase in the average global temperature over the last hundred years is entirely consistent with well-established, long-term, natural climate trends.

    8) The IPCC theory is driven by just 60 scientists and favourable reviewers not the 4,000 usually cited.

    9) Leaked e-mails from British climate scientists – in a scandal known as “Climate-gate” – suggest that that has been manipulated to exaggerate global warming

    10) A large body of scientific research suggests that the sun is responsible for the greater share of climate change during the past hundred years.11) Politicians and activiists claim rising sea levels are a direct cause of global warming but sea levels rates have been increasing steadily since the last ice age 10,000 ago

    12) Philip Stott, Emeritus Professor of Biogeography at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London says climate change is too complicated to be caused by just one factor, whether CO2 or clouds

    13) Peter Lilley MP said last month that “fewer people in Britain than in any other country believe in the importance of global warming. That is despite the fact that our Government and our political class—predominantly—are more committed to it than their counterparts in any other country in the world”.14) In pursuit of the global warming rhetoric, wind farms will do very little to nothing to reduce CO2 emissions

    15) Professor Plimer, Professor of Geology and Earth Sciences at the University of Adelaide, stated that the idea of taking a single trace gas in the atmosphere, accusing it and finding it guilty of total responsibility for climate change, is an “absurdity”

    16) A Harvard University astrophysicist and geophysicist, Willie Soon, said he is “embarrassed and puzzled” by the shallow science in papers that support the proposition that the earth faces a climate crisis caused by global warming.17) The science of what determines the earth’s temperature is in fact far from settled or understood.

    18) Despite activist concerns over CO2 levels, CO2 is a minor greenhouse gas, unlike water vapour which is tied to climate concerns, and which we can’t even pretend to control

    19) A petition by scientists trying to tell the world that the political and media portrayal of global warming is false was put forward in the Heidelberg Appeal in 1992. Today, more than 4,000 signatories, including 72 Nobel Prize winners, from 106 countries have signed it.20) It is claimed the average global temperature increased at a dangerously fast rate in the 20th century but the recent rate of average global temperature rise has been between 1 and 2 degrees C per century – within natural rates

    21) Professor Zbigniew Jaworowski, Chairman of the Scientific Council of the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw, Poland says the earth’s temperature has more to do with cloud cover and water vapor than CO2 concentration in the atmosphere.

    22) There is strong evidence from solar studies which suggests that the Earth’s current temperature stasis will be followed by climatic cooling over the next few decades

    23) It is myth that receding glaciers are proof of global warming as glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for many centuries

    24) It is a falsehood that the earth’s poles are warming because that is natural variation and while the western Arctic may be getting somewhat warmer we also see that the Eastern Arctic and Greenland are getting colder

    25) The IPCC claims climate driven “impacts on biodiversity are significant and of key relevance” but those claims are simply not supported by scientific research

    26) The IPCC threat of climate change to the world’s species does not make sense as wild species are at least one million years old, which means they have all been through hundreds of climate cycles

    27) Research goes strongly against claims that CO2-induced global warming would cause catastrophic disintegration of the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets.

    28) Despite activist concerns over CO2 levels, rising CO2 levels are our best hope of raising crop yields to feed an ever-growing population

    29) The biggest climate change ever experienced on earth took place around 700 million years ago

    30) The slight increase in temperature which has been observed since 1900 is entirely consistent with well-established, long-term natural climate cycles

    31) Despite activist concerns over CO2 levels, rising CO2 levels of some so-called “greenhouse gases” may be contributing to higher oxygen levels and global cooling, not warming

    32) Accurate satellite, balloon and mountain top observations made over the last three decades have not shown any significant change in the long term rate of increase in global temperatures

    33) Today’s CO2 concentration of around 385 ppm is very low compared to most of the earth’s history – we actually live in a carbon-deficient atmosphere

    34) It is a myth that CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas because greenhouse gases form about 3% of the atmosphere by volume, and CO2 constitutes about 0.037% of the atmosphere

    35) It is a myth that computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming because computer models can be made to “verify” anything

    36) There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes

    37) One statement deleted from a UN report in 1996 stated that “none of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases”

    38) The world “warmed” by 0.07 +/- 0.07 degrees C from 1999 to 2008, not the 0.20 degrees C expected by the IPCC

    39) The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says “it is likely that future tropical cyclones (typhoons and hurricanes) will become more intense” but there has been no increase in the intensity or frequency of tropical cyclones globally

    40) Rising CO2 levels in the atmosphere can be shown not only to have a negligible effect on the Earth’s many ecosystems, but in some cases to be a positive help to many organisms

    41) Researchers who compare and contrast climate change impact on civilizations found warm periods are beneficial to mankind and cold periods harmful

    42) The Met Office asserts we are in the hottest decade since records began but this is precisely what the world should expect if the climate is cyclical

    43) Rising CO2 levels increase plant growth and make plants more resistant to drought and pests

    44) The historical increase in the air’s CO2 content has improved human nutrition by raising crop yields during the past 150 years

    45) The increase of the air’s CO2 content has probably helped lengthen human lifespans since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution

    46) The IPCC alleges that “climate change currently contributes to the global burden of disease and premature deaths” but the evidence shows that higher temperatures and rising CO2 levels has helped global populations

    47) In May of 2004, the Russian Academy of Sciences published a report concluding that the Kyoto Protocol has no scientific grounding at all.

    48) The “Climate-gate” scandal pointed to a expensive public campaign of disinformation and the denigration of scientists who opposed the belief that CO2 emissions were causing climate change

    49) The head of Britain’s climate change watchdog has predicted households will need to spend up to £15,000 on a full energy efficiency makeover if the Government is to meet its ambitious targets for cutting carbon emissions.

    50) Wind power is unlikely to be the answer to our energy needs. The wind power industry argues that there are “no direct subsidies” but it involves a total subsidy of as much as £60 per MWh which falls directly on electricity consumers. This burden will grow in line with attempts to achieve Wind power targets, according to a recent OFGEM report.

    51) Wind farms are not an efficient way to produce energy. The British Wind Energy Association (BWEA) accepts a figure of 75 per cent back-up power is required.

    52) Global temperatures are below the low end of IPCC predictions not at “at the top end of IPCC estimates”

    53) Climate alarmists have raised the concern over acidification of the oceans but Tom Segalstad from Oslo University in Norway , and others, have noted that the composition of ocean water – including CO2, calcium, and water – can act as a buffering agent in the acidification of the oceans.

    54) The UN’s IPCC computer models of human-caused global warming predict the emergence of a “hotspot” in the upper troposphere over the tropics. Former researcher in the Australian Department of Climate Change, David Evans, said there is no evidence of such a hotspot

    55) The argument that climate change is a of result of global warming caused by human activity is the argument of flat Earthers.

    56) The manner in which US President Barack Obama sidestepped Congress to order emission cuts shows how undemocratic and irrational the entire international decision-making process has become with regards to emission-target setting.

    57) William Kininmonth, a former head of the National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological Organisation, wrote “the likely extent of global temperature rise from a doubling of CO2 is less than 1C. Such warming is well within the envelope of variation experienced during the past 10,000 years and insignificant in the context of glacial cycles during the past million years, when Earth has been predominantly very cold and covered by extensive ice sheets.”

    58) Canada has shown the world targets derived from the existing Kyoto commitments were always unrealistic and did not work for the country.

    59) In the lead up to the Copenhagen summit, David Davis MP said of previous climate summits, at Rio de Janeiro in 1992 and Kyoto in 1997 that many had promised greater cuts, but “neither happened”, but we are continuing along the same lines.

    60) The UK ’s environmental policy has a long-term price tag of about £55 billion, before taking into account the impact on its economic growth.

    61) The UN’s panel on climate change warned that Himalayan glaciers could melt to a fifth of current levels by 2035. J. Graham Cogley a professor at Ontario Trent University, claims this inaccurate stating the UN authors got the date from an earlier report wrong by more than 300 years.

    62) Under existing Kyoto obligations the EU has attempted to claim success, while actually increasing emissions by 13 per cent, according to Lord Lawson. In addition the EU has pursued this scheme by purchasing “offsets” from countries such as China paying them billions of dollars to destroy atmospheric pollutants, such as CFC-23, which were manufactured purely in order to be destroyed.

    63) It is claimed that the average global temperature was relatively unchanging in pre-industrial times but sky-rocketed since 1900, and will increase by several degrees more over the next 100 years according to Penn State University researcher Michael Mann. There is no convincing empirical evidence that past climate was unchanging, nor that 20th century changes in average global temperature were unusual or unnatural.

    64) Michael Mann of Penn State University has actually shown that the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age did in fact exist, which contrasts with his earlier work which produced the “hockey stick graph” which showed a constant temperature over the past thousand years or so followed by a recent dramatic upturn.

    65) The globe’s current approach to climate change in which major industrialised countries agree to nonsensical targets for their CO2 emissions by a given date, as it has been under the Kyoto system, is very expensive.

    66) The “Climate-gate” scandal revealed that a scientific team had emailed one another about using a “trick” for the sake of concealing a “decline” in temperatures when looking at the history of the Earth’s temperature.

    67) Global temperatures have not risen in any statistically-significant sense for 15 years and have actually been falling for nine years. The “Climate-gate” scandal revealed a scientific team had expressed dismay at the fact global warming was contrary to their predictions and admitted their inability to explain it was “a travesty”.

    68) The IPCC predicts that a warmer planet will lead to more extreme weather, including drought, flooding, storms, snow, and wildfires. But over the last century, during which the IPCC claims the world experienced more rapid warming than any time in the past two millennia, the world did not experience significantly greater trends in any of these extreme weather events.

    69) In explaining the average temperature standstill we are currently experiencing, the Met Office Hadley Centre ran a series of computer climate predictions and found in many of the computer runs there were decade-long standstills but none for 15 years – so it expects global warming to resume swiftly.

    70) Richard Lindzen, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, wrote: “The notion of a static, unchanging climate is foreign to the history of the Earth or any other planet with a fluid envelope. Such hysteria (over global warming) simply represents the scientific illiteracy of much of the public, the susceptibility of the public to the substitution of repetition for truth.”

    71) Despite the 1997 Kyoto Protocol’s status as the flagship of the fight against climate change it has been a failure.

    72) The first phase of the EU’s Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), which ran from 2005 to 2007 was a failure. Huge over-allocation of permits to pollute led to a collapse in the price of carbon from €33 to just €0.20 per tonne meaning the system did not reduce emissions at all.

    73) The EU trading scheme, to manage carbon emissions has completely failed and actually allows European businesses to duck out of making their emissions reductions at home by offsetting, which means paying for cuts to be made overseas instead.

    74) To date “cap and trade” carbon markets have done almost nothing to reduce emissions.

    75) In the United States , the cap-and-trade is an approach designed to control carbon emissions and will impose huge costs upon American citizens via a carbon tax on all goods and services produced in the United States. The average family of four can expect to pay an additional $1700, or £1,043, more each year. It is predicted that the United States will lose more than 2 million jobs as the result of cap-and-trade schemes.

    76) Dr Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, has indicated that out of the 21 climate models tracked by the IPCC the differences in warming exhibited by those models is mostly the result of different strengths of positive cloud feedback – and that increasing CO2 is insufficient to explain global-average warming in the last 50 to 100 years.

    77) Why should politicians devote our scarce resources in a globally competitive world to a false and ill-defined problem, while ignoring the real problems the entire planet faces, such as: poverty, hunger, disease or terrorism.

    78) A proper analysis of ice core records from the past 650,000 years demonstrates that temperature increases have come before, and not resulted from, increases in CO2 by hundreds of years.

    79) Since the cause of global warming is mostly natural, then there is in actual fact very little we can do about it. (We are still not able to control the sun).

    80) A substantial number of the panel of 2,500 climate scientists on the United Nation’s International Panel on Climate Change, which created a statement on scientific unanimity on climate change and man-made global warming, were found to have serious concerns.

    81) The UK’s Met Office has been forced this year to re-examine 160 years of temperature data after admitting that public confidence in the science on man-made global warming has been shattered by revelations about the data.

    82) Politicians and activists push for renewable energy sources such as wind turbines under the rhetoric of climate change, but it is essentially about money – under the system of Renewable Obligations. Much of the money is paid for by consumers in electricity bills. It amounts to £1 billion a year.

    83) The “Climate-gate” scandal revealed that a scientific team had tampered with their own data so as to conceal inconsistencies and errors.

    84) The “Climate-gate” scandal revealed that a scientific team had campaigned for the removal of a learned journal’s editor, solely because he did not share their willingness to debase science for political purposes.

    85) Ice-core data clearly show that temperatures change centuries before concentrations of atmospheric CO2 change. Thus, there appears to be little evidence for insisting that changes in concentrations of CO2 are the cause of past temperature and climate change.

    86) There are no experimentally verified processes explaining how CO2 concentrations can fall in a few centuries without falling temperatures – in fact it is changing temperatures which cause changes in CO2 concentrations, which is consistent with experiments that show CO2 is the atmospheric gas most readily absorbed by water.

    87) The Government’s Renewable Energy Strategy contains a massive increase in electricity generation by wind power costing around £4 billion a year over the next twenty years. The benefits will be only £4 to £5 billion overall (not per annum). So costs will outnumber benefits by a range of between eleven and seventeen times.

    88) Whilst CO2 levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout history, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased since the beginning of the industrial revolution, and the growth rate has now been constant for the past 25 years.

    89) It is a myth that CO2 is a pollutant, because nitrogen forms 80% of our atmosphere and human beings could not live in 100% nitrogen either: CO2 is no more a pollutant than nitrogen is and CO2 is essential to life.

    90) Politicians and climate activists make claims to rising sea levels but certain members in the IPCC chose an area to measure in Hong Kong that is subsiding. They used the record reading of 2.3 mm per year rise of sea level.

    91) The accepted global average temperature statistics used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that no ground-based warming has occurred since 1998.

    92) If one factors in non-greenhouse influences such as El Nino events and large volcanic eruptions, lower atmosphere satellite-based temperature measurements show little, if any, global warming since 1979, a period over which atmospheric CO2 has increased by 55 ppm (17 per cent).

    93) US President Barack Obama pledged to cut emissions by 2050 to equal those of 1910 when there were 92 million Americans. In 2050, there will be 420 million Americans, so Obama’s promise means that emissions per head will be approximately what they were in 1875. It simply will not happen.

    94) The European Union has already agreed to cut emissions by 20 percent to 2020, compared with 1990 levels, and is willing to increase the target to 30 percent. However, these are unachievable and the EU has already massively failed with its Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), as EU emissions actually rose by 0.8 percent from 2005 to 2006 and are known to be well above the Kyoto goal.

    95) Australia has stated it wants to slash greenhouse emissions by up to 25 percent below 2000 levels by 2020, but the pledges were so unpopular that the country’s Senate has voted against the carbon trading Bill, and the Opposition’s Party leader has now been ousted by a climate change sceptic.

    96) Canada plans to reduce emissions by 20 percent compared with 2006 levels by 2020, representing approximately a 3 percent cut from 1990 levels but it simultaneously defends its Alberta tar sands emissions and its record as one of the world’s highest per-capita emissions setters.

    97) India plans to reduce the ratio of emissions to production by 20-25 percent compared with 2005 levels by 2020, but all Government officials insist that since India has to grow for its development and poverty alleviation, it has to emit, because the economy is driven by carbon.

    98) The Leipzig Declaration in 1996, was signed by 110 scientists who said: “We – along with many of our fellow citizens – are apprehensive about the climate treaty conference scheduled for Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997” and “based on all the evidence available to us, we cannot subscribe to the politically inspired world view that envisages climate catastrophes and calls for hasty actions.”

    99) A US Oregon Petition Project stated “We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of CO2, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.”

    100) A report by the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change concluded “We find no support for the IPCC’s claim that climate observations during the twentieth century are either unprecedented or provide evidence of an anthropogenic effect on climate.”

  97. Don’t forget that this is the Obama administration. The same people that burn aborted babies to generate electricity.

    But Coal is Bad

  98. When the Berlin Wall fell, “red” became “green.” However, this guy may actually be the rarest of environmentalists, an honest one and not a communist at all.

    The phony “Global Warming” alarmists will still be sounding their alarm long after we have entered into a new Ice Age…

  99. Greenpeace. Defender of the world’s poor.
    With a $22 million yacht.

    Think I’ll leave my SUV running in the driveway after work tonight, just burning fuel until it runs out.
    Making more of that sweet, filthy CO2.
    Because **** you, Greenpeace.

  100. In another article, it is revealed that only 20% think the science is “settled”.
    That is about right as the committed lefties are only about 20% of the population and infest the legacy media.
    The media needs to be corrected with a 2×4 upside the head.

    1. That kind of statement would make a really nice “hashtag” but that’s all, old son. He’s a reputable scientist and “fear” needs to be defined so you — and others — don’t associate it with the result of a Dracula movie.

      1. Ecologist Dr. Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, warned “I fear a global cooling,”
        Not much else to take away from that.
        Climate change is as natural as casting a shadow on the ground in the sunlight, to fear it remains stupid.
        With CO2 levels higher, plants are growing richer and harvests are becoming more bountiful in places where there’s no drought going on.
        In the end, CO2 has nothing to do with climate change,at best it’s changes are effects not causes, and plants grow in proportion to it’s availability.

          1. Snookums, you’re not my type.
            IF dumb is classified as ignoring evidence that doesn’t agree with your preconceived notions of man’s power, then you people have wrote the book on it. But as a wise man once penned “Stupid is as stupid does”.
            You want to worship at the feet of an power government? There are plenty of nations out there with it, leave my country alone.

                1. Archer,
                  You can post study after study to prove your point but vacmancan will never accept it. He’s a spammer who posts the same spam over and over, day after day, year after year. Look at his posting profile.

                  He’s a nut.

    1. 150 years ago de Tocqueville wrote:

      “After having thus taken each individual one by one into its powerful hands, and having molded him as it pleases, the sovereign power extends its arms over the entire society; it covers the surface of society with a network of small, complicated, minute, and uniform rules, which the most original minds and the most vigorous souls cannot break through to go beyond the crowd; it does not break wills, but it softens them, bends them and directs them; it rarely forces action, but it constantly opposes your acting; it does not destroy, it prevents birth; it does not tyrannize, it hinders, it represses, it enervates, it extinguishes, it stupifies, and finally it reduces each nation to being nothing more than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”

      More than one critical thinker has taken notice of the consequences for sheep-like behaviors of the democratic electorate.


  101. for all you non-scientist types, translation, “We don’t know what the weather is going to be like long term. But, it is guaranteed that the weather will change at least four times a year.”

    All of us simple folk call this Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring.

                1. Sweetheart, how much money have you saved by putting solar panels on your roof???? Be specific and name your source. How did you like the song?????

      1. There should be a comma after ‘Sweetheart’. The ‘e’ in ‘simple’ follows the ‘l’. The hyphen is incorrectly placed.

        It is so entertaining when ‘Progressives’ who ‘understand science’ assume, Lisa Simpson-like, that their ideologically arrogated intellectual vanity is valid.

  102. “Climate change” is a despotic progressive straw man. It just happens to
    be and exceedingly useful tool of opportunity for stirring up passions in the
    under-educated herds of livestock upon which the DesPro depends to stay
    in democratic power. But after a time, every slide into despotism ceases
    to depend on pedestrian controls of government by means of a polluted
    electorate. Eventually, the guns will come out. This tendency is
    already manifest in the surge of ‘militarized’ public safety
    organizations. Organizations the president described as a “civilian national
    security force” . . . see

    The president further asserted, “People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve.”

    climate change thingy is but one of many tools of intellectual
    distraction described by the despotic progressive thinkers for
    centuries but more recently advocated by Obama’s teachers. Obama and his
    handlers are demonstrably in lock-step with Alinsky’s “Rules for
    Radicals”. See . . .

    Every minute and dollar expended in the great trashing of ideas and emotions on man made climate change are resources forever lost in the fight to correct our present path to economic and political destruction.

    The Despotic Borg have infested our government from president to dog-catcher . . . resistance will soon be futile.

    1. Not sure he ever bought into the notion that Greenpeace would morph into the despotic progressive tool for highjacking public opinion. After all, every one of the alphabet soup of bureaucratic administrative departments was launched on reasonable and honorable ideas.

      But every tool of force (regulations and law = force) in the hands of dishonorable individuals is evenutally subverted. Once control of his honorable organization is lost, he had no option but to bail out.

      Clearly, he has the cahones necessary to defend the ideas and goals which prompted his original idea and organization that promotes reasoned activity by honorable people to do a good thing.

  103. I have never understood why we are absolutely certain that temperatures recorded during a time when man didn’t have the ability to flush a toilet are 100% accurate.

  104. When I saw the NASA article (15 years ago or more) that stated the polar caps on all our planets had shrunk, (not just on mother earth) I knew that “man made global warming” was a sham. Now this Co founder of greenpeace fears cooling. I never understood the Liberal debate in the first place. Warm is good Right??? Ok, when the planet was in a warmer place we could support creatures the size of a 1% ers house, (that’s a dinosaur if your a recent product of the public school system) those creatures had to be fed Right?? So when the earth is warm we have plentiful FOOD!! When the earth was a big snowball there was little life or food. Get it? Warm GOOD, cold BAD, Man made? Hardly, unless there are martians burning carbon on all our planets.

    1. The planet thrives when the weather is warm, it dies when the weather is cold. What is the optimum temperature of the Earth? You’re correct, ” Warm GOOD, cold BAD”. 🙂

  105. You deniers are truly ignorant. Your buddy Moore right here is a SNAKE who has gotten paid millions to spew his nonsense. It doesn’t surprise me that right wing/fox news flavored kool-aid drinking, Hannity loving nimrods would trust the 3% of climate scientists who deny global warming. I mean really guys what kind of stupid are you? Please do the rest of the world a favor and please don’t breed and give us another generation of STUPID!

    1. Al Bore has gotten rich with his chicken little routine. Now there is a SNAKE. As for the right wing/foxnews flavored cool-aid drinking…bla bla bla… You skys a falling run for you lives neutered steers have to overlook the Fact that there has been no warming in 18 years and Antarctic Ice is at record levels. Uncle Albert makes a killing on a movie and slide shows showing poor Polar Bears stranded on Icebergs, but he doesn’t tell everyone that the can swim 100 miles and use Icebergs to hunt seals. Talk about ignorant, it takes a brain that is flat lining to accept the word of “scientists” who loose their gravy train grants if they don’t toe the line on global warming.

    2. So warmist mystic enlightenment consists of ad hominem argument, abuse, character assassination. psychologizing, argument from universal assent, argument from authority and arbitrary assertion?

      No one can accuse you of ignorance. You demonstrate mastery of almost every common logical fallacy.

  106. More whales, more iron-enriched poop, more plankton blooms, less CO2. GP was correct to save the whales. Indeed, a portion of the problem was rendered by man’s disturbing the enviroment. Warming is good, but civilization will be difficult to migrate from the coast.

    1. So people should live in closer proximity to cetacean ordure?

      Wouldn’t shallows dwelling marine mammals just move inland along with the 23′ wall of water that is sure to descend upon us?


    The “Main Stream” media won’t give “You” a voice so your words go unheeded ?

    Bill O’Reilly has a huge audience, more than most others and he would gladly give you airtime !

    Calling from the “woods” gets know where !!

    We have a brainwashed youth, ruffly 12-22yrs old and know one “visibly” out there to tell them otherwise?

    Reach out further, our way of life is in jeopardy…