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UPDATE: ROMM BANS IPCC SCIENTIST!: – UN IPCC Scientist Rips Romm’s understanding of climate science; calls Romm ‘a blatant liar’

Update #3: Courtney Responds to being banned (But Romm did not post it): Courtney wrote to Romm: “Your behaviour demonstrates that you are not only a liar. You are a charlatan, too.”

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Update #2: Romm to Courtney: ‘You are banned…’

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Update #1: Joe Romm responds to criticism and UN IPCC Scientist Richard Courtney fires back:

Romm Wrote to Courtney: “But it DOES say that. The underestimating, lowballing IPCC only projects the low range if we get OFF our current emissions path. Try reading the post before revealing your denier ignorance. The rest of your comment is snipped.”

Courtney Responded to Romm:
You like calling others names but seem to not like it when they respond.
The facts are what they are. The IPCC projections are what they are; i.e. a range of global temperature rise from 1990 temperatures of between 1.4 to 5.8°C by 2100.

I stated fact by quoting the IPCC projections. Your claiming that “science” says “we’re going to warm more than 4°C by century’s end” is a lie.

You lied (yet again) and now you try to excuse your lie. There can be no acceptable excuse.

Richard

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[Original Note From Richard Courtney. A UN IPCC expert reviewer and a UK based atmospheric science consultant, who is featured on page 224 of the U.S. Senate Report of More Than 700 Dissenting Scientists Over Man-Made Global Warming.]

Courtney’s Email:

From: Richard Courtney
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:08 AM
To: Marc Morano
Subject: A posting to Romm

Dear Marc:

Your Climate Depot provides a link titled: “Climate Fear Promoter Joe Romm: ‘The tragic hubris of the climate action delayers'” by Joe Romm of Climate Progress.

I have posted a comment to that item and my comment is “awaiting moderation” at Romm’s website. (I suspect it will not appear).

I copy my comment below.

All the best

Richard

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Mr Romm:

It seems that I owe you an apology.

In the above article you write:
“Many of these are people I’ve called the climate action delayers (CADs) — the folks who claim to believe in the science of global warming but obviously don’t, the folks who substitute their own opinion for an understanding of the actual science.”

And in the same article you write:
“On our current emissions path, we’re going to double CO2 concentrations not “during the course of the century” …

Rising CO2 a Boon for Biosphere – Earth in ‘CO2 Famine’ – Cutting CO2 ‘a profoundly evil act’ – Climate Depot Fact Sheet on CO2

[Climate Depot is publishing a series of exclusive A-Z fact sheets on every aspect of the global warming debate. Climate Depot has already published comprehensive fact sheets on: the Arctic; RealClimate.org; Climate Models; Sea Level Rise; Climate Threats & Intimidation; Climate Funding; Global Warming’s Global Governance; Amazon and Rainforests; Warming Activists Stuck in Polar Ice; Congressional Cap-and-Trade Bill; Record Cold Temps; Lack of Warming; Report on Obama Admin. Climate Report; Hurricanes; Climate Astrology; Gore Effect;]

Climate Depot’s CO2 Fact Sheet (for additional updates on the CO2 see new articles tagged CO2)

Prominent Scientist Tells Congress: Earth in ‘CO2 Famine’ – Feb. 25, 2009

Excerpt: ‘The increase of CO2 is not a cause for alarm and will be good for mankind’ : Washington, DC — Award-winning Princeton University Physicist Dr. Will Happer declared man-made global warming fears “mistaken” and noted that the Earth was currently in a “CO2 famine now.” Happer, who has published over 200 peer-reviewed scientific papers, made his remarks during today’s Environment and Public Works Full Committee Hearing. “Many people don’t realize that over geological time, we’re really in a CO2 famine now. Almost never has CO2 levels been as low as it has been in the Holocene (geologic epoch) – 280 (parts per million – ppm) – that’s unheard of. Most of the time [CO2 levels] have been at least 1000 (ppm) and it’s been quite higher than that,” Happer told the Senate Committee. To read Happer’s complete opening statement click here: “Earth was just fine in those times,” Happer added. “The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it’s baffling to me that we’re so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started,” Happer explained. Happer also noted that “the number of [skeptical scientists] with the courage to speak out is growing” and he warned “children should not be force-fed propaganda, masquerading as science.” [In December, Happer requested to be added to the groundbreaking U.S. Senate Minority Report Update: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims ] Happer was pressed by the Committee on whether rising CO2 fears are valid. “I don’t think the laws of nature or physics and chemistry has changed in 80 million years. 80 million years ago the Earth was a very prosperous palace and there is …

‘Desperation Time’: NYT Promotes ‘National Security’ Climate Fears – But claims are merely ‘a redux of 1970’s laughable scares about famines and resource scarcity’

Climate Depot Editorial

Desperation time has arrived for the promoters of man-made global warming fears. As the science of man-made climate fears continues to collapse, new tactics are being contrived to try to drum up waning public support.

A series of inconvenient developments for the promoters of man-made global warming fears continues unabated, including new peer-reviewed studies, real world data, a growing chorus of scientists dissenting (including more UN IPCC scientists), open revolts in scientific societies, more evidence that rising CO2 is a boon for the atmosphere, and the Earth’s failure to warm. In addition, public opinion continues to turn against climate fear promotion and even activists at green festivals are now expressing doubts over man-made climate fears and a Nobel Prize-winning economist is wishing for ‘tornadoes’ and ‘a lot of horrid things’ to convince Americans of a climate threat. (See “Related Links” at bottom of this article for more inconvenient scientific developments.)

The core of the claims made in the August 8, 2009 New York Times article by John M. Broder are stated as follows: “Recent war games and intelligence studies conclude that over the next 20 to 30 years, vulnerable regions, particularly sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East and South and Southeast Asia, will face the prospect of food shortages, water crises and catastrophic flooding driven by climate change that could demand an American humanitarian relief or military response.”

The heart of the “national security” argument is merely a redux of the 1970’s laughable scares about famines and resource scarcity. Those same baseless claims and fear mongering arguments are simply being shamelessly updated with a military uniform. It is sad to see members of our armed forces wearing their uniforms promoting such unsubstantiated and embarrassing drivel. (See: ‘Just When You Thought Global Warming Couldn’t Get More Stupid, In Walks John Kerry’: ‘Of all the ridiculous arguments in support of climate legislation, national security has to be the most idiotic’ : Also see: Sound Familiar? 1977 CIA book warned a coming ‘ICE AGE threatened to cause major migrations and mass starvations’ )

Climate Depot’s Inconvenient Rebuttal to “National Security” Climate Argument:

1) The “national security” angle is based on unproven computer models which even the United Nations IPCC admits are not “predictions.” UN IPCC lead author, Dr. Kevin Trenberth refers to climate models as “story lines.” “In fact there are no predictions by IPCC …

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