Warmist rips Bill Nye’s ‘Meet the Press’ debate on NBC: Warmist Dan Weiss: ‘Epic fail by [David] Gregory. Nye not that effective. Daily show does it better.’
…Warmists trot out tobacco smear to demean skeptics debating climate on TV: Dem Sen. ‘Giving scientists and climate change deniers equal time is like having tobacco executives debate doctors on the safety of cigarettes’
Global warming activists are at it again, once again attempting to smear climate skeptics by using the tobacco analogy. Warmists are fuming over the Bill Nye debate with Rep. Marsha Blackburn on NBC’s Meet the Press . See: Warmist Salon Mag. Disses Bill Nye as ‘a professional children’s entertainer’ – NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ to host climate change debate between GOP’s Marsha Blackburn and Bill Nye ‘the Science Guy’
Via National Journal – Feb. 16, 2014:
Article excerpt: Environmentalist Miles Grant: ‘Next week’s debate: Do cigarettes cause cancer? An oncologist debates a tobacco executive!’
Sen. Brian Schatz, a Hawaii Democrat: ‘While its good to see Meet the Press waking up to the fact that climate change is an issue—the debate is over.’ ‘Climate change is a public health threat. Giving scientists and climate change deniers equal time is like having tobacco executives debate doctors on the safety of cigarettes,’ Schatz said.
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Climate Depot Responds:
The warmists have it exactly backwards. It is the global warming proponents who are guilty of the tobacco tactics. See: Flashback: Warmists’ mimic tobacco industry tactics: ‘Like tobacco industry, Warmists’ manufactured uncertainty & fear by stridently proclaiming certainty & consensus based on dubious & uncertain modeled results predicting disastrous consequences of a warmer climate’
Prof. Roger Pielke Jr. Rips ‘Big Climate’ for having ‘similarities’ with ‘Big Tobacco’ & ‘Big NFL’ – Pielke Jr. specifically linked UN IPCC and Michael Mann’s tactics to ‘Big Tobacco’ and ‘Big NFL’ – Dr. Roger Pielke Jr., prof. of env. studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the U. of Colorado at Boulder:
Pielke Jr. Tweeted on January 30, 2014: ‘Big NFL & Big Climate both had academics serving as gatekeepers of peer reviewed journals to preserve a favored narrative & keep out dissenters’
‘The science issues of NFL/concussions has some similarities w/ tobacco/industry & also with those in climate science.’ — ‘There’s a lot of similarity between League of Denial (the NFL) & The Hockey Stick Illusion by @aDissentient in how leading academics (Michael Mann) behaved — not good’
‘Big Tobacco and Big NFL both tried to sow doubt and use uncertainty as a basis for trying to avoid legal culpability’ – ‘Big Tobacco is history, the IPCC is back on track, but the NFL continues to have its science problems’
Related Links:
Democrat, Greens Fume over NBC’s Global Warming ‘Debate’ Between Bill Nye and GOP Rep. Marsha Blackburn
…Meet the Press to Host Climate Change Debate Featuring a Guy [Bill Nye] Who Played a Scientist on TV
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Warmist Salon Mag. Disses Bill Nye as ‘a professional children’s entertainer’ – NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ to host climate change debate between GOP’s Marsha Blackburn and Bill Nye ‘the Science Guy’
Former CNN producer laments ‘leading climate denier’ Morano’s TV debates: ‘Morano is a Gatling gun of dishonest sound-bites, all designed to serve climate denial the way O.J. Simpson’s lawyers drew fire away from their clients’
…Prof. Roger Pielke Jr. Rips ‘Big Climate’ for having ‘similarities’ with ‘Big Tobacco’ & ‘Big NFL’ – Pielke Jr. specifically linked UN IPCC and Michael Mann’s tactics to ‘Big Tobacco’ and ‘Big NFL’
Related Links:
Michael Mann lawyers up with Tobacco Lawyers! Represented by experienced defamation lawyer John B. Williams who successfully represented R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company – Mann’s lawyer ‘successfully defended R.J. Reynolds in commercial speech case filed by FTC challenging cartoon character, Joe Camel’
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NYE: ‘This is perfectly analogous to the cigarette industry and cancer, trying to introduce the idea that since you can’t prove any one thing, the whole thing is in — is in doubt.’
MORANO: ‘For Nye to bring up cigarettes – it’s the global warming scientists who are the ones fulfilling a narrative. I mean we have Michael Oppenheimer, one of the lead U.N. scientists, took an endowment from Barbra Streisand. Hollywood – he’s the climatologists to the stars. It’s so insulting to imply that somehow skeptical scientists are on the pay like tobacco companies. It’s the height of arrogance when you look at the actual data, the global warming scientists, through government grants, foundations, through media empowerment, have the full advantages of government money, foundation money, university money. There’s not even any comparison.’]
JOHN STOSSEL: As a consumer reporter, I’ve covered 1,000 scares. Lawn chemicals, cell phone radiation, pesticide residues, plastic bottles killing people, power lines, Mad Cow Disease was going to kill everybody. And always the example is, yes, there were doubters about cigarettes. I mean that one example doesn’t mean that the global warming scare is correct.’
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More Related Links:
The latest edition of Mathematics Today includes a review of the Hockey Stick Illusion
New Book ‘The Hockey Stick Illusion’ details the case against Michael Mann’s Hockey stick temp chart – ‘Exposes in delicious detail, datum by datum, how a great scientific mistake of immense political weight was perpetrated, defended and camouflaged by a scientific establishment that should now be red with shame’
Funding Links about ‘Big Climate’:
Morano v. Nye debate media coverage: Bill Nye warns that population growth is driving global warming
…Analysis of Morano/Nye Debate: Marc Morano’s Knockout Question: ‘Who Is Bill Nye To Tell Them They Cannot Have More Carbon-Based Energy?’
…Watch Now: Morano V. Bill Nye Climate Debate on Fox With Stossel – Nye Cites ‘Hockey Stick’ as Proof – Says Politicians can fix potholes & the climate – Morano denounces as ‘medieval witchcraft’ – Full Transcript
Stossel’s ‘Chill Out’ program with John Stossel on Fox Business – First Broadcast January 23, 2014: Bill Nye the Science Guy, who says he is “frantic” about climate change debates skeptic Marc Morano of ClimateDepot.com. (Note: Morano and Nye also debated on CNN in 2012. Also see Morano debating on UN TV in Nov. and his debate on CNN in Dec. 2013 as well as his January 2014 Fox News appearance on cold and AGW)
Watch Full Nye Debate Below:
Full Transcript Below – But first, selected enhanced transcripts with weblink references.
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Bill Nye on how politicians can fix potholes, time red lights and fix the climate:
STOSSEL: This idea that politicians can fix the climate strikes me as arrogance. And I think we heard arrogance six years ago from our president after he defeated Hillary Clinton.
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OBAMA: This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.
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STOSSEL: Bill, isn’t this the conceit of the self-anointed, politicians are going to fix the climate?
NYE: By way of example, is it conceit when politicians claim they’re going to fix potholes in the street?
STOSSEL: No, they can do that.
NYE: It is conceit when politicians say they’re going to time the traffic lights?
STOSSEL: No, they can do that.
MORANO: No, they can do that.
NYE: Is it conceit when politicians — is it conceit when politicians say they’re going to clean up the water in Chesapeake Bay?
STOSSEL: Nope.
NYE: Is that inappropriate? Those — those things have been done.
STOSSEL: Right.
MORANO: Those are doable.
NYE: This is the same thing on a much, much larger scale.
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Nye fails to recognize 1990 UN IPCC temperature graph showing medieval warm period as warmer than today:
STOSSEL: And if you look, over time, we have a graph here from just the year 1000 to today, we had the Medieval warm period, we had the Little Ice Age, big changes.
NYE: You’ve really, uh, you’ve really messed with the far right hand side of the graph.
MORANO: That’s the United Nations graph from 1990, pre-hockey stick…
NYE: Yes.
MORANO: — before they reinvented past temperatures.
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