Back To The Dark Ages: Update: Top French Meteorologist Who Questioned ‘Global Warming’ Fired

[Note: Upcoming skeptical documentary ‘Climate Hustle’ set to rock climate debate. Set for world theatrical premiere at UN Climate Summit in Paris in December. www.ClimateHustle.com)

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Via France 24: Philippe Verdier, a household name in France for his daily weather reports on the France 2 channel, announced in an online video that he had received a letter of dismissal.

“My book ‘Climate Investigation’ was published one month ago. It got me banned from the air waves,” said the weatherman, who was put “on leave” from the TV station on October 12.

Back To The Dark Ages: Update: Top French Meteorologist Who Questioned ‘Global Warming’ Fired

“I received this letter this morning and decided to open it in front of you because it concerns everybody- in the name of freedom of expression and freedom of information.”

His announcement comes four days after France Télévisions chief Delphine Ernotte told French MPs that Verdier had been summoned to a formal interview that could lead to his dismissal.

An employee who picked up the phone at France Télévisions on Sunday morning told FRANCE 24 that there were no PRs present to confirm or deny Verdier’s dismissal.

‘Many positive consequences to global warming’

The controversy around Verdier’s claims has likely been heightened by their timing, with his book coming just weeks before the start of a much-anticipated UN climate change summit, known as COP21, to be held in Paris at the end of November.

“I put myself in the path of COP21, which is a bulldozer, and this is the result,” Verdier told RTL radio station in October.

He said he was inspired to write the book after France’s Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius met with TV meteorologists and asked them to highlight climate change issues in their broadcasts.

“I was horrified by this speech,” Verdier told French magazine Les Inrockuptibles last month.

In his book, Verdier accuses state-funded climate change scientists of having been “manipulated” and “politicised”, even accusing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) of publishing deliberately misleading data.

He also argues that there are “a great many positive consequences to global warming”, such as lower consumption of fuel used for heating and fewer cold-related deaths in winter.

“I am being punished for exercising my freedom of expression,” the weatherman told RTL.`

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BBC: Prominent French Meteorologist ‘taken off the air’ for dissenting on ‘global warming’ – Declares UN climate agenda ‘wants to make us perpetual victims of fear’ – BBC: Philippe Verdier has been publicly condemned by just about everyone. And he’s been taken off air. He denounces what he sees as a conspiracy of interests linking government, NGOs, science, media and religion – all coming together for the vast and expensive annual shindigs which are the COPS. (It stands for Conference of the Parties)… But worse, he then wrote an open letter to the president, essentially accusing him of hypocrisy for turning the environment to political ends… But he says that just proves his point: that nothing can challenge the official view. “COP21 is a bulldozer,” he said in an interview this week. “And I was in its way.”

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    1. True and over there you just get fired. Here we have politicians that are actually attempting to jail people for not believing the lie of global warming. Worse, we have many of our own citizens who thinks it’s a good idea. So much for the First Amendment.

      1. “Here we have politicians that are actually attempting to jail people for not believing the lie of global warming.”

        lol!

        Sweetie, no one’s going to jail you for having a fight with a thermometer.

        They might jail the people who are intentionally lying about the dangers of fossil fuels for a profit, though.

        “Marc Morano is… the Communications Director at CFACT, a conservative think-tank in Washington D.C. that has received funding from ExxonMobil, Chevron”

        http://www.desmogblog.com/marc-morano

      1. Wasn’t that lunacy…..he was tried by the catholic inquisition.
        Job (in the old testament) said the earth was round. How greenie of the catholic church even then.

      1. Al Gore now runs ENRON, yes the very same ENRON that bankrupted millions in a pollution credit trading scheme, has been resurrected, like a vampire, to suck the money out of unsuspecting dupes in a carbon credit trading scheme.
        What could possibly go wring?

    1. You can choose to look at this in one of two ways:

      1. You believe UAH data (raw satellite data) which gives an unbiased image of what’s going on across the entire planet and shows net ZERO temperature increase over the past 20 years.

      -or-

      2. You can choose to believe NOAA/IPCC HadCRUT4 data (data from questionably placed ground bases which is extrapolated, adjusted, and manipulated) which shows a slight global temperature increase.

      Endorsing option 1 is believing what your eyes are telling you.

      Endorsing option 2 is believing what the IPCC/NOAA tells you that you ought to see even though your eyes are telling you something different.

      Your choice; I choose option 1.

      The beautiful little organic molecule that we call “CO2,” which we rely on for our very existence, never hurt anything. In fact, the slight elevation of CO2 levels over the past 50 years has increased beneficial biomass levels by 30%. There is good reason that greenhouse operators artificially increase CO2 levels from our atmospheric norm of 390ppm to 1500ppm…it vastly enhances plant growth.

      1. A German Climate research group did an experiment where they sealed off a terrarium with plants in it and pumped in a mixture of oxygen with 11% more CO2.
        The result?
        The plants grew 11% faster!

        1. That is a well-known ancillary benefit of increased CO2 in the atmosphere…there are many others, but don’t expect to hear that from the mainstream media, or your government in fact.

          NASA, EPA, and the NOAA are now fully assimilated to the Church of GloBULL Warming.

          1. The IPCC global circulation models (the heart and soul of CAGW) have failed. Even though atmospheric carbon dioxide has been rising, global temperatures have remained constant within the predictable margin of error. This is true using either the IPCC’s HadCRUT4 data or the actual UAH data. Another example is that global relative humidity and specific humidity have been decreasing according to data from NOAA; which indeed contradicts all IPCC modeling assumptions.

                  1. “So you think gcc is happening and is not man made, or it is not happening?”

                    Here’s a better question:

                    Is it likely to be coincidental that a person well-known for lying about the dangers of fossil fuels would be funded by the fossil fuel industry?

                    “Marc Morano is… the Communications Director at CFACT, a conservative think-tank in Washington D.C. that has received funding from ExxonMobil, Chevron”

                    http://www.desmogblog.com/marc-morano

                    “Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities.”

                    climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

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                2. FYI, Ignore CB. She’s a troll who babbles her
                  “ice cap” nonsense over and over again. Even after being shown that
                  she is totally wrong, she mindlessly continues to peddle her debunked rubbish.

                  A couple years ago HelenW documented ~200 of these same comments in the space
                  of a month. She was shown that she was wrong many many times, but she didn’t
                  care. It’s documented here:
                  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/03/06/chevrongate-capitalism-finally-grows-a-pair-in-the-war-on-big-green/#comment-1279556845

                  When I showed her that an ice age began in the Ordovician when CO2 was
                  >4,000ppm, she delusionally claimed that the CO2 levels were 50ppm because
                  she claimed that all the ¹²C had been “used up” which meant that CO2
                  levels dropped by 99%!!! Here is the comment where I totally exposed her
                  ignorance of science of carbon isotopes and showed her that the change in ¹²C
                  was a mere 0.008%, not 99%:
                  http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/28/excuse-9-nasa-says-pause-in-global-warming-just-a-coincidence/#comment-1277972042
                  (if my comment doesn’t load automatically, click on “show comments”).

                  Below she posts old data from the dodgy GRACE satellites to peddle her global warming religion, while the latest science from satellite data shows that the Antarctic ice mass has been increasing over the last 24 years, and will continue doing so for ~20 years.
                  “During the period 1992-2001, the Antarctic mass gain from snow accumulation exceeded the mass loss from ice discharge by 112 +/- 61 Gt a^-1. During 2003-08, the gain exceeded the loss by a similar 82 +/- 25 Gt a^-1 … If dynamic thinning continues to increase at the same rate of 4 Gt a^-2 with no offset from further increases in snowfall, the positive balance of the AIS will decrease from the recent 82 Gt a^1 to zero in ~20 years.” – Zwally(2015) ‘Mass gains of the Antarctic ice sheet exceed losses’ – https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/zwally-antarctica-study.pdf

          2. Biologists estimate that 30 percent of the species on earth will become extinct due to the ongoing warming of the Globe.

            Most rational people don’t consider the trade off to be a good one.

                1. I think you misunderstand your own statement. ‘Biologists ESTIMATE .., blah …’

                  Estimate = Guess. In science guesswork is non-existent. So you get your head out of the sand, this instant.

                  You mentioned IQ in another post, please get retested. I estimate your IQ at <50

                  1. “Estimate = Guess.” – PigManBear

                    All scientific measurement and calculation comes with error bars.

                    The value reported is an estimate and the error is typically stated as confidence limits.

                    Hence all measurements in science are estimates.

                    This fact is part of any competent high school science course.

                    Did you fail? Or was your training incompetent?

                    “Guess. In science guesswork is non-existent.” – PigManBear

                    My goodness you are ignorant.

                    1. My goodness you’re a vitriolic troll! You clearly have no substantiative information, you’re middle school mindset is to get under people’s skin. All too common liberal response – attack opponents with what’s really your own problem. I’d love to engage in some good intellectual, across the aisle discussion, but wow, you are an absolute lost cause.

                    2. “I’d love to engage in some good intellectual, across the aisle discussion” – JesseGG

                      Denialists clearly aren’t capable of it.

                2. Estimate = projection = guess.

                  Sept 2013 – A leaked copy of the 2014 UN IPCC report on global warming says that scientist’s claims that global warming was going to destroy us were drastically wrong.

                  The new report also notes that scientists had to admit that their forecasts were wildly out of sync with the truth.

                  Some of the findings that the report contains are as follows:

                  They recognize the global warming ‘pause’ first reported by The Mail on Sunday last year is real – and concede that their computer models did not predict it. But they cannot explain why world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase since 1997.

                  They admit large parts of the world were as warm as they are now for decades at a time between 950 and 1250 AD – centuries before the Industrial Revolution, and when the population and CO2 levels were both much lower.

                  The IPCC admits that while computer models forecast a decline in Antarctic sea ice, it has actually grown to a new record high. Again, the IPCC cannot say why.

                  Further, these UN scientists now acknowledge that there has, indeed, been a “pause” in rising temperatures, just as so many have said.

                  A forecast in the 2007 report that hurricanes would become more intense has simply been dropped, without mention.

                  And yet, even though the new report admits so many errors, these so-called scientists still pack their paper with apocalyptic scenarios about how global warming is still going to kill us all.

                  This on top of the fact that the Arctic ice sheet has grown despite folks like Al Gore that said by now all the ice should have melted.

                  1. Your claim that Estimate = guess, is pure ignorance.

                    Obviously you have never taken or understood an elementary science class.

                    You are spectacularly ignorant. All scientific measurement is an estimate.

                    Your statement is therefore that measurement = guess.

                    And that makes you an idiot.

                    1. Ad hominem attacks = Lose the Argument

                      ALL Climate Doomsday scenarios in every IPCC report, are GUESSES, based on computer models, and are perpetually revised when they don’t come to fruition.

                      I’m an engineer….Jabroni.

                      Now shoo fly….

                    2. That is the nature of statistical models like our climate ones. They will modify (generally to the mean not away from it) as the reinitialized data is run through the process at a time closer to the predicted event. Dynamic models will do the same but for different reasons and on a much smaller scale.

              1. So you won’t mind then if you and your family becomes extinct?

                Removing your stupid genes from the human genome will only raise overall IQ’s.

                1. When you lose an argument you resort to insults. Why not resort to proving your argument then critics of global warming may change their minds.

                  I was on your side of the fence once.

                  Quote:
                  I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding
                  because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have
                  not a single political argument left. …Margaret Thatcher.

                  1. What insults? I only stated the facts. and asked you a question.

                    So you won’t mind then if you and your family becomes extinct?

                    Removing your stupid genes from the human genome will only raise overall IQ’s.

                    1. It seems clear from your post – a revelation, actually – that Natural Selection cannot be a true principle, as Darwin suggests.
                      If it were a real force, people as gullible as your ancestors (or your teachers) would not survive long enough to procreate and teach nonsense- and poor understanding of demonstrable facts to their children.
                      You should be proud to be held up as an example that Darwin was wrong…

                      Or perhaps the survival of uncritical thinkers like your own genetic strain, is a temporary anomaly – irrelevant in the geological time-scale – like the recent, fifteen-year cooling in the “hockey-stick” reality which “everyone knows” is true…

                    2. “like the recent, fifteen-year cooling” – robKookzoni

                      What 15 year cooling?

                    3. That you need to ask – indeed, that you post this particular graph places you beyond help

                    4. So the 15 year cooling that you claim is just a lie.

                      Laughing at you…..

            1. If the earth isn’t warming, as shown by data in the past 15 to 20 years, does that mean we win and we won’t be one the species to die off in the next million years?

                1. I suppose woodfortrees got this data from University of East Anglia. I’ll bet Michael Mann (hockey stick) provided all the charts you folks need. Tree rings and all. Too bad the frauds at East Anglia got caught. Think how embarrassed Al Gore must feel. The fact is, The AGW scientist have ruined credibility for all scientist. After seeing all the fraud perpetrated by these AGW “Scientist”, I have to be very skeptical of anything any scientist hypothesizes. Good luck with your phony charts.

                  1. Woodfortrees provides the current data for HADCrut, GISS, UAH, Berkeley Earth, and a few other sources.

                    They all show the same results in kind.

            2. If that is the case, realize that YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! What do you want? The glaciers to come back? Were we responsible for that? If species become extinct, I pray that included all the nut jobs from Gore on down.

              1. Hmmm. Through what failed logic do you conclude that since emitting CO2 causes warming, not emitting CO2 will not cause warming?

                Were you dropped on your head when you were a child?

              1. I hate to take all the credit for this cool spell, but for the past 15 years, I would throw a tray of ice cubes out the backdoor. All I can say is, it worked! Don’t thank me, it’s the way I roll, it is who I iz. I do admit, one of the ice cubes did crush a blue eyed speckled flea ( considered by Raid as endangered), so, be careful where you spray, spray responsibly. Back in 2005-6 they had a forest fire in upstate AZ, it consumed almost a 1/2 million acres, acreage that was never ground cleared because the 9th circus court refused clear cutting, the endangered goss hawk was literally wiped out in that section of the state, at the time of the fire, you could buy 2 roasted goss hawks for .99. The only humans that are having any dire impact on nature and global anything are the useless Marxist liberals who think they know how to save the planet while they destroy it through their arrogant stupidity. What you will find is that the pile of dog stuff splattered on the wall is not art, just because some idiot liberal says so, I say it stinks.

                1. I’m sorry but I don’t have the time to respond to your fascinating ice cube method. What do you think would happen if you used green food coloring in the ice cubes. Sorry, I gotta go. Way behind on my chores. Need to burn the trash.

                  1. No where in the video that you present does Schnieder say that an ice age is imminent, or even indirectly imply such a thing.

                    In fact he says that at that time, climate science was not capable of long term prediction.

                    No such warnings came from the scientific community.

                    Why do you feel a need to lie about it?

            3. Let us know when they start dying off. Real biologists are finding thousands of new species every year, so, maybe the old didn’t die, they ahem, ah, uh, eh, evolved. You have to remember that the easiest masters degree you can get is a degree in sociology, every dope smoking, drug addicted hippy has one, I believe colleges buy them on toilet paper spools, those same azzclowns call themselves biologists, meteorologists, and get huge grants to support any third world Marxist moron’s agenda. the 1% get richer by keeping people like obama, Clinton in office, they sold their souls to gaia, belzebub, belial. But as long as you are stupis enough to buy the lie, please use your money, not mine.

              1. ‘Without Doubt,’ a Sixth Mass Extinction Event is Here

                Past work had already revealed what they similarly found. A 2014 study published in the esteemed journalScience found that since the year 1500, more than 320 terrestrial vertebrates have become extinct. Likewise, as of the study’s conclusion, 16 to 33 percent of all species were estimated to be globally threatened or endangered.

                Soon after, another paper published in Nature found that 41 percent of all amphibians on the planet now face extinction, while 26 percent of mammal species and 13 percent of birds are similarly threatened.

                http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/15921/20150802/without-doubt-sixth-mass-extinction-event-occurring.htm

            4. You mean uninformed people. Those with a brain reject Man made global warming. All models have failed to predict. No model works forwards or backwards. No warming in 20 years. There has always been doomsday cults. I simply choose to ignore the hype and go with the data. You and your biologist ignore the data and good all out doom instead.

              1. And averages height of Americans fail to predict the height of the next American to walk into a room.

                Climate models don’t predict weather. In fact they are designed not to predict weather.

                They are designed to predict climate.

                So how long have you been ignorant about grade 7 statistics?

                1. Trying to act even more ignorant than the average bear will not win a debate kiddo. 20 years is not the weather. Your side lost this debate about 10 years ago but you failed to get the message.
                  So how long have you been in the 3rd grade reading class?

                  1. Repetition is often required when dealing with a dunce.

                    The averages height of Americans fail to predict the height of the next American to walk into a room.

                    Climate models don’t predict weather. In fact they are designed not to predict weather.

                    They are designed to predict climate.

                    So how long have you been ignorant about grade 7 statistics?

                    1. Looks like you are in more dire need of repetition than me kiddo. Try to keep up please.

                      Trying to act even more ignorant than the average bear will not win a debate kiddo. 20 years is not the weather. Your side lost this debate about 10 years ago but you failed to get the message.
                      So how long have you been in the 3rd grade reading class?

                    2. Repetition is often required when dealing with a dunce.

                      The averages height of Americans fail to predict the height of the next American to walk into a room.

                      Climate models don’t predict weather. In fact they are designed not to predict weather.

                      They are designed to predict climate.

                      So how long have you been ignorant about grade 7 statistics?

                    3. Looks like you are in more dire need of repetition than me kiddo. Try to keep up please.

                      Trying to act even more ignorant than the average bear will not win a debate kiddo. 20 years is not the weather. Your side lost this debate about 10 years ago but you failed to get the message.
                      So how long have you been in the 3rd grade reading class?

                    4. Repetition is often required when dealing with a dunce.

                      The averages height of Americans fail to predict the height of the next American to walk into a room.

                      Climate models don’t predict weather. In fact they are designed not to predict weather.

                      They are designed to predict climate.

                      So how long have you been ignorant about grade 7 statistics?

                    5. Looks like you are in more dire need of repetition than me kiddo. Try to keep up please.

                      Trying to act even more ignorant than the average bear will not win a debate kiddo. 20 years is not the weather. Your side lost this debate about 10 years ago but you failed to get the message.
                      So how long have you been in the 3rd grade reading class?

            5. Scientists at Antarctica are now saying the Sea ice is growing at 83 million tons per year. IS that because of warming ? If so please explain your reasoning.

              1. Sorry. Scientists at Antarctica are saying no such thing.

                A paper by scientists working at NASA have made the claim.

                But their claim runs counter to direct mass measurements of the ice on Antarctica by GRACE, and contradicts earlier altimeter studies one of which was printed last year.

                It was only in 2014 that the first satellite altimeter change study of the Antarctic was made from data from the 3 or 4 years 2011 – 2014.

                No one is giving this recent NASA analysis much credibility. But since measurement is so difficult, it may turn out that this new report is correct.

                It is doubtful though. GRACE really has the change in mass locked up, since it measures the change directly.

        2. This is well known. Long before the global warming scam, plant nurseries pump CO2 into seedling houses to get the to grow up to 65 percent faster.

        3. Commercial greenhouse nurseries routinely add CO2 and double the rate of plant growth. Today’s flora began in geological eras when our air had ten times the CO2 it has now.

        4. Only for a short time. Once the plants had matured they grew at the same rate as they did without higher CO2.

          Further the relationship was sub-linear with less than 11% growth seen with an 11% increase in CO2.

        5. Wow. So the AGW hysterics exemplify how centralized control by a self-proclaimed “elites” often runs counter to even the most basic common sense!

      2. From the Matrix: You take the blue pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I’m offering is the truth.

        Haha…you took the red pill.

      3. I think there might be more than two ways…but we do seem to be on the same side, for what it’s worth.

        Personally, I try to combat the hysteria (and appeals to authority), with the simplest, most basic tenants of Science and the Age of Enlightenment).
        I say show me a specific theory that has made predictions which hold up to observation!
        Not a lot of emotive talk, not appeals to authority, not computer models…Predictions, and observations…everything else is BS.
        Richard P. Feynman says it well here (60 sec).
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIxvQMhttq4

        PS I actually worked as a scientist in computer modeling.

        1. Feynman is right. And modeling as you know merely is but an hypothesis. Feed in data and compare its predictions to reality. In the inconceivably large number of data points describing temps. the choice of WHICH data to use will produce whatever output is desired. SO LONG as no criticism of the lack of convergence between model and reality is allowed the scam proceeds./

          1. Yes, exactly. Models are designed to prove theory. If the models fail to correlate with actual phenomenon…they fail; as does the theory. The IPCC’s solution to the failure of their models is to manipulate real world data to give it the appearance of aligning as well as to add new dimensionality to the models to explain the failure. All of this is in polar opposition to any form of legitimate protocol.

        1. The IPCC, NASA, and NOAA have all been caught manipulating data in an attempt to support their agenda; in fact, manipulation of real world data to give it the appearance of being copacetic with their modeling assumptions is a part of their standard. This flies in the face of all scientific process/protocol. Once an organization has crossed over into the dark side and politicizes science in order to placate the people who fund them, they can never be trusted again.

          1. By the way, alternating federal documents, such as temperature databases can be a felony. Just like having classified documents on a private server. Too bad we don’t have a Justice Department interested in upholding the laws.

          2. Paul Jones, Michael Mann (Hockey Stick) and Keith Briffa just to name a few. There have been more scientist caught falsifying data that I just gave up trying to keep up. What we should do is escort anyone at the UN that brings up global warming to the nearest airport. If they attempt to come back, jail time. Why should we allow these Marxist to remain in our country and perpetrate a fraud on the American People. I would just be satisfied for impeachment of our politicians.

        2. That’s why I call it ‘Mann-made glowbull worming’. In dishoner of Michael Mann, the discredited “hockey stick” theory author, the one who suggested to “hide the decline” of the cold snap of the early 19th century and the mediaeval warming period. In collusion with the UK’s East Angelia University, as evidenced when an email hacking and subsequent document dump revealed extensive efforts to “doctor the data” to support what is now known to be invalid conclusions.

        1. Read the recent NOAA report which shows that not only has any ‘manmade destruction’ of the rain forest slowed, it has been reversed and has attained massive regrowth, thanks to CO2. Granted, the deforestation by excessive and wanton tree cutting has thinned those forests.

      4. That CO2 assessment, which was done courtesy of the US government (the same one which is shoving global warming down our throats) says that the foresst across much of the globe have not only shown remarkable regrowth, but the animal contained within them are multiplying and are much healthier as a result of the CO2.

      5. You are trying to confuse the issue with facts. The Communisocialist group is getting desperate.
        Good read “Confessions of a Greenpeace dropout” by Patrick Moore one of founders of Greenpeace.

      6. NOAA adjusted the historical weather measurements down going back to the 1920’s in 2011 with little media fanfare. Why? To prove global warming. Even with the elimination of the Serbian weather stations since the fall ove the Soviet Union in the “average” world temperatures the climate wasn’t co-operating with their scam.

      7. “Don’t believe your lying eyes” is what my neighbor said to his wife when she walked in on him in bed with another woman. Strangely enough…..she took his advice.

      8. The satellite record is only 30 years old, suffers from many more “corrections” than the surface record, and most importantly, satellites don’t measure surface temperature.

      9. You would think the ‘tree-huggers’ would be all about boosting CO2 based on the pure and simple science of it (photosynthesis 101), but that does not fit their little leftist agendas of destroying capitalism in the world. People need to understand that ‘Global Warming’ has nothing to do with science and everything to do with politics and control. They attempt to cloak their agenda using the ‘consensus of scientists’ propaganda, but true science is not about consensus, it is about fact. I repeat that this has absolutely nothing to do with science.

      10. Note The head of NOAA was fired after he said Global Warming caused by Humans is false.]
        No scientist, not being paid for pushing this crap story, is backing this lie.

    2. Was it cold this winter, will it be hot this summer? Unless that
      changes, which it doesn’t look like doing any time soon or even in the
      future, it’s safe to assume that AGW is a gigantic money grabbing hoax.

    3. When an argument is so weak that it cannot withstand debate, its disciples resort to threats of shutting off debate (‘the science is settled”), firing the skeptics, jailing the skeptics and/or public ridicule and humiliation of the skeptics.
      Does anyone else see one or more of the above tactics being used now?

        1. Or perhaps a more modern comparison is in order …. the Soviet Gulag. Mao’s Great Purge. These represent the anti-intellectual villains behind this scam (and everything else bad going on).

    4. Consensus or science. It can’t be both.
      Every great scientific discovery went against the consensus.
      See: Galileo

      The current eviro-fascistic movement is about Money. Power. And Societal Control.
      This is why the opposition is being threatened, not because of some vague “crisis”, because it threatens who receives the lions share of research money, who works the levers of power, who controls society.
      There is a crisis: one for the control for your mind. Don’t be a sheep.

  1. And the left wants bigger more powerful government. Governments have the power to kill and if allowed to become bigger than the people will use it!

  2. They did this same sort of thing years ago when those who insisted the world wasn’t flat or wasn’t the center of the universe were ‘canned’ or far worse.

    1. You think they wouldn’t do the same thing in America? Try getting grant funding if you won’t toe the global warming line. Today, if your job is related to either weather or climate or research on related subjects your job (funding) depends on spouting the global warming alarmists’ agenda. Cross them and the money disappears.

      1. Just read any history book published by academia within the last few decades, there is always the inserted reference to global warming somewhere, it is as if it is required to get publication.

        1. Because of global warming today is a nice day that I decided to take off and enjoy, therefore allowing me to publish this comment here. Something like that.

          1. It is subtle but always present, just some ominous prediction or explanation of human activity that references it, but it is there in all but those published by VDH.

          1. Oh they will when they get that much of an upper hand. The thing the jihadis and the commies have in common is a hatred of Christians and Christianity. The enemy of my enemy thing.

      1. “If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of superrich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking “

          1. I believe that the quote is from “None Dare Call it Conspiracy” by Gary Allen, which is probably one of the most important books you could read as a primer on the New World Order conspiracy.

        1. Now if you could find a way to explain that to all those held prisoner in our inner city ghettos before they cast their votes again, problem solved.

      2. And POWER…the UN still longs for a one-world government…the global control of the “warming” argument would be a first win in bullying the masses into allowing a world entity control over interpreting weather patterns and what they mean. Once dissent is squashed data only means what the world entity “tells” you it means. Manipulation of data or outright lies to the populace will be common place… real life”1984″ anyone?

        1. And who better to lead such a ‘fine’ organization as the United Nations than the great one himself… M ‘crease in his pants’ the one and only world emperor……. Barack Hussein himself.

  3. Someone should print up “I’m a 3 percenter” bumper stickers for those of us not in that fabled 97% who believe (the right word, believe) in global warming. It would be fun to see how many vehicles carried them.

  4. It is bad here with what the msm and government does to climate-change deniers. But, in gay Parie and other bastions of socialism, what the weatherman got happens all too often. It, as usual, is not reported by the msm. Why should they? Of course, more and more ignorant Americans want a socialism style gov’t. here, so what happened in France CAN eventually happen here.

    1. Bill Gates says socialism is the only thing that can save the USA. We should take the word of a guy who makes billions by stealing other people’s ideas and turning our questionable products too.

      1. the uber-capitalist calling for socialism after he plunders the world, now that is Irony at its best. I always say the progs lack the irony gene and never are able to see it right in front of them.

        1. When you think about it, socialism/communism returns a society to something akin to medieval feadulaism/manorialism. Gates is making sure that he and his ilk are landed titled nobility in the new order whilst the rest of us can remain landless nobody serfs, so long as we keep quiet. It is no wonder the pope himself is down with the climate change hoax as it it clearly an avenue back to that time when the Roman church held such sway over all.

  5. Sounds like he needs the US Constitution…….sorry, can’t help you there in France. Do any of these warming mutts think the sun might have something to do with warming.

  6. This has also happened to many others, yet those pushing this fraud claim it is not a factor relative to the oft repeated lie of “90 percent of scientists have reached consensus” on the issue.

    1. Their 97% figure has been debunked..10,257 people were invited to take an on-line survey, only 3,146 of them did. Only 79 of those were “published experts” and only 76 of those “experts” said yes. And it was based on 2 questions.Ever wonder why the AGW/GW nutters never use the “real” number? Is it because they’d be humiliated?Other researchers reviewed roughly 250 paleoclimate studies, concluding the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were both real and global, albeit with significant regional variations.How do these nutters explain that the “broader” scientific community of paleoclimatologists, do not accept their argument? Just because climate modelers cannot explain natural variability does not mean natural variability does not exist. They say they can see it clearly in the data.From 1997, more than 6000 boreholes supports the MWP very similar to the original pre 2001 IPCC viewpoint:Later, the fraudsters only used around 500 boreholes.There are 250 paleoclimate studies which refute the fraudster Mann’s “hockey stick” nonsense. . . .“Hide the decline! And that really big ship stuck in the ice!”

  7. the Heartland Institute has good info on this. Not that any of the “we want big guv’mint to rule us” folks, and their mindless followers, will listen.

  8. Despite the left insisting that they’re merely echoing the scientists, they have seized the argument away from the scientists. Now, any scientist who doesn’t toe the left’s political line on climate change, is persona non grata. If science discovered that some other mechanism is involved in climate change, the ministry of left-wing propaganda would surely shut down such heresy.

      1. At first the Catholic church had no problem with Galileo and even supported him financially, but other scientists envied his position and patronage and they turned the church against Galileo.

            1. so why doesn’t that work for our constitution and belief in individual responsibility? it seems that no one wants to perpetuate that concept except for a few of us who are considered “radicals”

  9. France 2 channel should have it’s funding pulled. Any person with honor and decency should create or join a boycott of all channels and shows on this and any sister networks of France 2 channel. Looks like you’re country is going to get more socialism than ya bargained for.

            1. Work in auto parts. You really should see these proud Prius owners whimper and wince when they find out the batteries, themselves a hazardous waste of monumental proportions, need to be changed out. Buyer beware. Those used Prius autos for sale have a very large hidden price tag you will have to pay after you get your prize home and it starts giving you problems. Don’t be a chump. The old rule stands true, if the price sounds too good to be true, it is. I can’t tell you how many Prius owners come into our store begging for help to replace their batteries. Sorry folks, you can get used battery packs sometimes but the only real source is Toyota at their prices. And if you don’t do some very critical things when you install those used batteries, they won’t last very long and you will have wasted that money. Been there, done that. Fortunately I didn’t suffer the monetary loss.

          1. Funny, Christianity is faith based. Wonder why they can accept Environmentology, a man contrived belief and reject Christianity that was established by God. Man or God? No apologies here, I will go with God and you are free to choose. Choose wisely grasshopper.

  10. Democratic Party Requirements:

    You can be a part of the Democratic party and have free speech as long as:

    1. You believe in abortion.

    2. You believe the church of Globull warming is real, even when your “scientists” are caught red handed altering climate data because 100% of ALL of their prediction models prove false or that tree trunks are now being exposed by the retreating Mendenhall Glacier, that grew during the medieval warming period 900-1300ad, are denier lies.

    3. You do not believe Hitlery Clinton LIES daily, and whose only qualification to be POTUS is that she is a woman is enough.

    4. You believe ALL the Black LIES Matter LIES, even when 6 black eye witnesses testify that Michael Brown attacked the cop.

    5. You think his majesty Oblow negotiated the “best” deal the US could get with the Iranians.

    6. You give Oblow ALL the credit for $2 a gallon gas prices, even when it was fracking that resulted in forcing the Saudi’s to drop the price of oil to try and put fracking out of business.

    7. You believe that all the anti-fossil energy movement groups are genuine, even when it is exposed that the Russians were the one who put up the all the money for them.

    8. You are ok with the Bern being a “socialist”, despite the fact that he put up a communist Soviet flag behind his desk after he was elected mayor of Burlington, spitting in the face of the 100k+ US families that lost family members fighting the communists in the Korean and Vietnam war.

    9. You believe each and every article written by the main stream press is factual, even when jur-no-lists like John Harwood is shown on national TV to be an out-right LIAR.

    10. That democrats know what’s best for everyone.

    11. That the Harvard Medical study showing that liberalism is a genetic brain condition is all a BIG lie.

    12. You don’t mind if the government agencies, aka EPA, BLM, NSA, etc, violate your Constitutional rights daily in the name of the greater liberal good.

    13. You look the other way during elections at democratic election fraud, even when presented the facts on video.

    As long as you believe all the above, you can join the “Big Tent” Democratic Party.

        1. Yes but it also sounds very much like the historical actions of the Catholic Church lead by the Papacy. And guess what? Apparently the pope believes in Global Warming too. That alone is enough to make me not believe it it but millions of “good” Catholics will accept it unquestionably.

          1. Heck it worked for the Roman church for over a 1000 years. Reckon they figure they might as well try to return to those happy days when they owned most of the property, held most of the power and went unquestioned in everything.

  11. GLOBAL = EVERYWHERE on earth
    WARMING = Rising temps
    HOW are record cold temps possible ANYWHERE, if Temps are rising EVERYWHERE???
    ———————————————————————————————————————
    How can the science be settled when Democrats even understand the definitions of basic words like global and warming?

  12. GLOBAL = EVERYWHERE on earth
    WARMING = Rising temps
    HOW are record cold temps possible ANYWHERE, if Temps are rising EVERYWHERE???
    ———————————————————————————————————————
    How can the science be settled when Democrats CAN’T even understand the definitions of basic words like global and warming?

  13. Global Warming has become a religion to these people. When questioning a scientific belief results in punishment it ceases to be science. Global Warming is a scam to relieve us of our hard earned money…that is all.

    1. It’s a cult.Any Hare Krishna leader would be jealous at the dedication and belief of these “climate change” cult followers.However, they’ve been desperate to justify the government/UN to take over more and more economies (especially the energy production of the US). . and it’s all going down the drain. . . .Years of planning, faking/baking data. . . .it’s all being washed away.

            1. And so many of their leaders attain an almost or an outright worshipful status. Think of FDR, JFK Bill and Hitlery and now the One, the leftist messiah BHO.

      1. Slight correction to your last sentence. It should read, years of planting, faking and baking data . . . and the world economy is being washed away because of it.

  14. It’s truly amazing what thin-skinned, delicate flowers leftists are. They are utterly incapable of competing in the arena of ideas, so they just silence those who disagree–even as they champion themselves as paragons of tolerance. Pathetic.

    1. What bugs me even more is why wasn’t anyone prosecuted for the taxpayer fraud?Listen – if you or I took hundreds of millions of dollars, and produced a junk study that said eating grass clipping would help you live forever, we’d be charged with taxpayer fraud, our houses taken, and anyone that “helped” us perpetrate that fraud.Why isn’t Mann/Hansen et al in prison? Why weren’t the East Anglia and other Universities charged with aiding that taxpayer fraud?Instead, they investigated themselves and decided they didn’t nothing wrong.Would you and I be able to do that? Declare ourselves innocent and walk away?Of course not. . .

      1. Politicians do it all of the time. After all, who was it that said, “What difference does it make?” Funny, she says things like that all of the time yet people fawn all over her and are about to elect her to be president of our nation. Now stupid is that? Today it seems most Americans are preparing to cast their votes solely based on which politician can tell the most outrageous lies.

    2. My sister’s ex bf was like that. He would argue his lefty points best he could then when he would see he was losing intellectually he would get violent.

      1. Violence is the only thing the left really knows and they deny it and point the finger at conservatives as being the violent prone when in reality the opposite is true.

  15. We are rapidly heading back to the days of Copernicus and Galileo…as scientists we MUST stand up…we must not cave to the fascist agenda. There are no “threats” in science…there is no agenda…there is no “WINNING”…JHC science is about discovery plain and simple. I have never been more disgusted with my profession than I am now. But recognize this for what it is…Marxist thuggery…do not bow to these people.

  16. Dinosaurs are laughing. Hitler is cheering the believers of this farce. The jailers are making room for the “unbelievers”. God is saying this is a natural phase of the world’s weather pattern.

  17. This is how you know it’s fake… If the so called scientific community attempt s to silence anyone in the field that questions what their agenda and or stance is… You know it’s fake. Scientist are there to try and understand the world we live in by researching and studying, coming up with thesis and attempting in a lab environment a way to recreate their ideas. If they perform these tests and can prove their ideas then those studies are published and others then attempt that same to verify. That is science. A provable, repeatable, experiment that proves out a belief. But just like evolutionists… If you go against what they want the try and silence your work. You cannot reproduce the theory of evolution and yet the teach it as if it’s fact and if you say you don’t believe evolution your career is thrown under the bus by this so called scientific community. They can no more prove global warming at all so they in turn change the name they use to climate change… Now climates change all the time according to their seasons. That is a fact. What they can’t prove is this lie about carbon emissions and how we need a tax on carbon foot prints or other. It’s a LIE that they want you to believe like evolution so that they can control your life in every aspect. The scientific community is a socialist body of 1 world order KOOKS that will rail anyone out of a job, out of network, out of this world if possible to silence anyone criticizing them. There is proof in the science that they lie out right but they don’t want you to see the proof they want us all to be duped into their lies!

  18. Only the corrupt seek to silence opposition. If you believe in the merits of your position, you welcome opposition. Climate worshippers are a cult: they will do anything to preserve that status. The elites exploit the gullibility of the heard; amassing greater wealth, powerful and control over the populace. The “science” community welcomes the influx of $$$$$$$.

    In another 10 yrs this hoax will crumble as each prediction fails to materialize (as it already has- where are all those hurricanes they promised for the past 7 yrs)… just like the elites promoted the coming of the next Ice Age back in the 60’s and early 70’s. Power, Money, Control…. legs to their stools.
    Pollution and waste has been and continues to be our true enemy. But that campaign lost its popularity back in the late 70’s so they had to invent something else to exploit the masses. SHEEP one and all.

    1. Pollution and waste wasn’t a “big” enough crisis to blame on all the advanced nations to extort money from them.You had to come up with a “global” scam, to blame the western nations for – so you could take money and even demand reparations. (Business Insider, 2013, reported on some nations “walking out” because no one would talk about paying their “reparation” demands.)It’s the planet’s largest scam – and we have Obama et al still promoting the nonsense.Meanwhile Obama imports 3rd world people into our nation. And those other 3rd world nations are still having children they can’t feed, give water to, or house. . . .Tell us again – how is it that the United States is to blame with China bringing on a new coal plant every week?How is it our fault that India doesn’t want to even talk about pollution?

  19. Occasionally, I get these nutters at my door with this hysteria. So when they knock – I point to a tree in my yard:——————
    See that tree over there? It’s called a “Dawn Redwood.” Yea, it’s a metasequoia. Believed to be the great great grand daddy of the Giant Sequoias and California redwoods. It’s known as a living fossil, thought to be extinct until they were discovered growing in China in the 40s.There are fossilized remains of that tree growing in the ancient polar forests 250 million years ago from the Mesozoic era.So unless you can dig up a fossilized SUV or show me a cave painting of a Hummer, you better come up with an explanation of why that tree was growing 250 million years ago in forests at the poles of the earth.
    ——————More than a few times I’ve sent them away scratching their heads as they walk past that pine tree. . . . .staring at living proof against their argument. . . .Go get one and plant it. They’re only about $30.00, fast growing and a great living argument against the nonsense that they’re teaching these people. They grow anywhere/everywhere.

  20. Interesting how liberals always claim to be the ones who are tolerant and understanding.

    Yet the only thing they can’t tolerate or understand –

    is a difference of opinion.

  21. One mistake is his belief that he has freedom of expression. The citizens of France have no such guaranteed right, they’re allowed to say whatever the government will allow them to say. The citizens of America are trading our rights for privileges even now, soon we’ll have no guaranteed rights either.

  22. Perhaps, Comrades, he will be taken to the Ministry of Love where he can be re-educated, renounce his evil, Goldstein-ish ways, and, at last, beg to be shot while his mind is still clean.
    The thoughtcrimes of truth, reason, and logic can be so insidious and so horribly counter-revolutionary. As the saying goes: “There but for the Grace of Marx go I.”

    1. along with their sister agenda items such as global ID’s and gun control. the trifecta in total global control, all coming out of that bastard cabal called the UN

  23. Just another skirmish in the Liberal war on sanity. Political science has muscled real science out of the climate debate. True science always enjoys dissent and controversy, where as those who dissent on the climate change orthodoxy are branded apostates.

    1. There is no more fervor and zealotry, except perhaps Islam than what we are seeing in the global warming hoax. I expect denier beheadings to begin at any time to unify the ” science”.

  24. Nicolaus Copernicus, Galileo Galilei, et al. Religion (and global warming/climate change is definitely a religion) and science do not mix well. I guess we never learn from the past and are constantly doomed to repeat it.

    1. Copernicus was a Canon of the Catholic Church long before Galileo (also Catholic) promoted it as true. Galileo was put under house arrest for publishing something as gospel truth even though he could not prove it scientifically. Few people understand the reasoning behind the heliocentric dispute. It’s not as simple as the minions here describe.
      It’s science that usually disputes science, as is the case with AGW and Galileo.

  25. The liberals of the world need a cause to garner support and global change is it. The reason is they want big government and they will milk this cause until the cows come home. Promising freebies to the poor is also a step in getting support to advance their cause. They care less about the poor they just want power.

  26. Great. 15th century destruction of scientific integrity by religious cultists now combined with 18th century Salem with hunts.

    This is what passes for reason and Enlightenment in the 21st century.

  27. It’s not about “green” It is all about “red”. The failed tenets of communism cannot be foisted on the world without a designated enemy to rally for… that will not eventually come for the Commissar’s with pitchforks, feathers and tar.

    1. Well, we are all gonna be in some big trouble if the governments of the world don’t do something about Manbearpig before he kills us all. Manbearpig is real! I’m super cereal!

  28. Blind belief in climate change is a sickness, and those who are calling for punishment of “disagree-ers” should be rounded up and shot for the sake of humanity.

  29. “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act” ~ George Orwell. The Truth is the arch enemy of Liberals. We must continue to scream the Truth loud and clear. It is our strongest weapon.

  30. Of course you are being punished, your statements, factual as they are, are heresy.

    Now that the antarctic ice sheet is shown by NASA to be GROWING, suddenly the global warming crowd thinks we need better “tools”—-Huh, the tools were sufficient when used to declare the discussion of the global warming hoax was over, that it was “proven science”

    This movement is geared towards the ever-growing low IQ average citizen.

    The girl who cuts my hair recently declared while cutting my hair, that she could “see global warming happening all around her”
    No specifics, she could just “see it”

    These are the kind of dingbats that buy this nonsense.

  31. Global warming/climatechange/whatever they’re calling it this week, is just part of an agenda to get into your pockets for more money, and gain more control over what you do.
    Stop Agenda 2030.

    1. Sure they are. Neither CO2 nor temperatures by themselves have the capacity to raise money like the combination of the two does. It is settled scientific consensus. This is especially true since the acid rain stopped and the ozone hole closed up.

  32. Genuine science must discard predictive models that have failed. All genuine scientists have rejected the current models, because ALL of them have failed.

    New models have not yet been accepted by the “scientific community.” Therefore the number of models that predict AGW, and are acceptable by objective scientific standards is currently ZERO.

    Genuine science therefore does not support AGW.

    Q.E.D.

  33. Neanderthal “scientists” at the beck and call of the socialist/progressive/atheists. I hear the distant beat of war drums getting louder and louder every day.

  34. This is the Obama regime M.O., and the democrat M.O, and yet people do not understand just how dangerous this is? As a scientist, this is repulsive. When you add politics to science, it’s no longer science, it’s a fraud.

    1. Carbon footprints for the cause are allowed. Case in point is the huge plume that follows the Al Gore jet as he flits from one income event to another

  35. Proof positive the Liberal agenda is a fraud. Cannot tolerate any diversity or opposition. They will fire, demote, demonize or disrespect ANYONE who does not follow their fascist line about “climate change.” NewsFlash: The climate has been changing for millions of years and will continue to do so, no matter what Obama, Hillary, Algore or any other crooked politician or fake “scientist” on a money-grubbing grant, tells you!

  36. BTW, isn’t “sea level rise” another way of saying continental decrease of elevation (relative to the center of the earth)? Isn’t that a natural phenomenon, i.e., the gravitational tendency towards a constant radius of the crust at any given latitude?

  37. Global Warming’s Holy Prophet Al Gore Got ‘D’ in ‘Natural Sciences’ at Harvard–But All Must Bow To Him Anyway. Any Heresy Will Be Punished.

    1. that’s why they are now calling it climate change, they know it is not getting hotter, so they will lay claim to any climate diversion from norm as proof of their “theory”

      1. Yes, the layers of BS just keep getting thicker.

        I think that’s why certain people believe it; they cannot believe the lie is so big.

        We are living in the age of the monumental lie – see: The War on Terror

  38. You don’t mess with the Zohans. Their bread and butter windfalls from Grants, Subsidies, Salaries is at stake. So how to defend that? Jail the dissenters and silence the opponents to this huge scam, show me a scientist who’s is not profiting from this fraud and I’ll convert to a Gorist!

  39. This agenda attacks humans at a literally molecular level.

    We should look at the GW/CC agenda as “the most sophisticated attack against mankind in the history of the World”

    It’s as if super smart aliens have come down and are trying to wipe us off the planet.

  40. Philippe Verdier was given a precious gift from France Télévisions by being terminated. The publicity generated from this cowardly move will only enhance his book sales. Viva La France!

  41. Oh me oh my, what an open and tolerant world we live in. Tolerant as long as you abide by what is evil and wicked….

    Global Warming & Climate Change are the GREATEST HOAX and FRAUD of the 20th and 21st centuries.

  42. It’s amazing how many people are fooled by this totally fraudulent agenda. It’s all about control and power. Anyone who supports it is either stupid or is making money from the agenda.

    1. we forget that the prog education agenda has done the same damage to several generations of our children. They proposed a new methodology to teaching our children and we bought into Mr. Rogers, Dr. Spock and Sesame Street and social promotions in schools and look at the totally useless generations of Americans they produced. All good little brainwashed prog defenders

  43. Scientific Method: Hypothesize, test hypotheses via experiment, refine hypotheses, Report Results, continue

    Global Warming: Hypothesize, ignore data that doesn’t support hypotheses, silence debate, continue

  44. PROOF POSITIVE OF CONSPIRACY. NOW ADD THE FACT THAT THE ROTHCSCHILDS ARE POISED TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF CLIMATE TRADING AND VIOLA! JEWISH CONSPIRACY EXPOSED!

  45. Peer review = One lies and the others swear! Real science releases all their data openly, not just to their butt or beer buddies. Real experiments are repeatable,no need for changing, hiding or refusing to release the data input and experimental process. Real scientist want others to use their data and prove it OR alter the experiment slightly and see a different result but with a now known cause/effect. These fake scientists are the ones violating RICO with help from the Government!

    1. The ones that wouid got canned long ago and the rest are zionist lapdog liars selling jewish enslavement under inbred malformed kosher ratscum.

  46. KUDO’S TO THIS BRAVE MAN AND MOST UNFORTUNATE THAT IN THIS 21ST CENTURY THE JEWS ARE TRYING TO DRAG HUMANITY BACKWARDS UNDER THEIR INBRED DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR SELLING LIE AFTER LIE AND MURDER AFTER MURDER AND YET THE FILTH REMAINS A DISEASE TO HUMANITY WHEN THE ANSWER IS SO EASY AND SO OBVIOUSLY A NECESSITY OF SURVIVAL AND CLEAR CUT SELF DEFENSE THAT NOT CURBING THIS FILTH IS TANTAMOUNT TO SUICIDE FOR ALL OTHER HUMANS.

    1. I find it totally humorous that libtards would create a profile and then, with their first 3 posts, spew hateful rhetoric pretending to be some sort of conservative.

      Go collect your paycheck from Soros and infect some other comment section. I’m not buying what you’re trying to sell.

  47. There ain’t no money in planting trees and recycling batteries. Al Gore and many World Leaders want to “Cap and Trade”. This will make them lots of money.

  48. The zionists long ago came up with the ruse of making man the enemy of Earth-as if that is in any way shape or form possible, to use as a vehicle for the attempt to enslave humanity and fulfil their inbred jewish caliphate-the only one that has actually done damage to Earth and Humanity. They must END.

    1. Uh that would be jewish caliphate son given that the jews are behind global warning which they had to change to climate change in light of the Earth not playing along with the lies and producing more ice thus embarassing the liars into having to change the name. But make no mistake-it is a jewish ruse as they all are.

  49. Past time for good men to end these commie bastards even if war is necessary. These kosher filth lying scum selling this and using goy lapdogs like gore as salesmutts has gone on far too long for logic and humanity’s sake. Time for the one action that ends collectivism and those that sell it forever from this Earth.

          1. Good there shekels the gay-sachs comedy clown as you need a good laugh given your inbreeding, lack of brains and being an inbred hasbarat as you are, I gotta ask-“You suck your rabbi with that mouth?”

              1. Weak. Not even a good try there israeli hasbaratscum. Again-you sucK your rabbi with that mouth? Try inversion again sometime cupcake-you’re no good at it yet! HAHAHA

                1. Oh, my poor virgin ears and eyes! Starting to run out of invective adjectives, huh? In my 6 decades of life, I’ve heard far worse than what your limited vocabulary can dream up, twinkie! lololol

      1. GFY SSCLOWN THEY STARTED THIS LIE AND BECAUSE YOU’RE EITHER TOO IGNORANT TO KNOW IT OR ANOTHER HASBARAT ISRAELI INBRED IS OF NO CONSEQUENCE-AS ARE YOU.

  50. 1700 Private Jets were flown in to Davos, Switzerland, to deliver the conferees for the World Economic Forum earlier this year. The main topic of discussion was “Global Warming”. When we see the Plutocrats giving up their wealth, taking vows of poverty, and living in mud huts, then we’ll know that AGW is indeed real. Until then, it remains the biggest income redistribution scheme in the history of mankind.

  51. He should be fired. You can’t be a professional meteorologist and talk about climate change being fake. It’s tantamount to being an obstetrician and saying that babies are delivered by storks…….

    1. Except he didn’t say climate change was “fake”. He noted that the issue has been politicized and like any politicized issue there is $ to be made in fabrications and distortions.

      He also seems to have the opinion that global warming, to the extent it might be happening (through either natural phenomenon or human activity) isn’t necessarily a completely bad thing and certainly not a catastrophe for the plant.

      Nuance matters.

          1. Sorry shekels, the gay IDF and the inbreds don’t forward you hasbarat scripts. You pukes have in less than five minutes exposed that both of you are in fact inbred israeli hasbarats.
            THANKS FOR PLAYING.

            1. I guess your script has run out, and the limits of your vocabulary has been reached. Perhaps you need to get back to 5th grade remedial reading? We wouldn’t want to strain that poor little head of yours!!! lol

              1. Ob, if you weren’t such an inbred illiterate I might take the time to teach English to you since the inbred semitic backwards languages seem your only refuge. Too busy today for kosher inbreds, but beg at my feet tomorrow and we’ll see..

      1. NO A PROUD AMERICAN STATES OPENLY THAT THESE INBRED KOSHER RATS ARE THE SOLE SOURCE OF ALL CONFLICT AND SUFFERING ON EARTH TODAY AND THAT THEY ARE THE LIARS BEHIND THESE CLIMATE LIES OPENLY AND IN PUBLIC.

                    1. Obviously your schooling is not helping you much. All you do is verbally jack off to the same tune. Must be getting sore about now!

          1. Naw, besides-you’re late to go service your rabbi and you know how that works out don’t you cupcake. good luck with the whole gay-sachs thing and I hope it takes you all soon.

            1. Better read a little deeper into the dictionary, pal. You’re getting redundant. You keep writing but you’re not saying anything new. Must be frustrating to be so rhetorically challenged, huh? lol

              1. I’ve made my point to the extent that I now own two or three of you and your time or you would have moved on from me by now. I OWN YOU KOSHER INBRED!!! HAHAHA! IT ALWAYS WORKS!

                    1. Ha ha ha!!! How many times can you say “inbred”? Must have trained your fingers for that one, huh?

                    2. I OWN YOU!!! HAHAHAHA!!! I OWN YOU TOTALLY INBRED RATSCUM!! HAHAHA! MY OWN KOSHER RAT ON A STICK! I C AN RUN YOU ALL DAY LONG AS YOUR INBREEDING HAS NOW TAKEN OVER AND YOUR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR MAKE YOU FROTH AT THE MANHOLE LITTLE KOSHER FAIRY. HAHAHA!

                    3. “Own me”??? lol Sure you do! Too bad I don’t come with a warranty! All you do is spew the same words over and over. Such intellectual muscle flexing!!!

  52. Ah yes as we run headlong into the Dark Ages and the coming Inquisition I am reminded of a quote made by the Grand Inquisitor as he stripped the flesh from a victim … He who allows the alien to live shares in the crime of its existence. Personally I am a proponent of terminating the narrow minded fools that believe this c r a p and actually seek retribution on those that don’t.

  53. So rabid global warming supporters want to arrest deniers, shoot deniers, use US RICO (racketeering) laws against deniers, forbid US FEMA aid to cities and states run by denying mayors and governors, and, of course fire deniers. When will we see torturing, burning at the stake and other inquisition pleasantries?

  54. Ah well, as we run headlong into the Dark Ages and the coming Inquisition I am reminded of a quote made by the Grand Inquisitor as he stripped the flesh from a victim … He who allows the alien to live shares in the crime of its existence. Personally I am a proponent of terminating the narrow minded fools that believe this MCGW c r a p and actually seek retribution on those that don’t.

  55. Is it any wonder that a “majority of scientists” support the global warming agenda? Many are afraid to do any research that would be contrary to the movement. They would be fired, lose access to billions of dollars of funding, and be ostracized within the scientific community. If someone comes out against GW they immediately look at where their funding came from yet the GW alarmists are really the ones that have their results skewed by the billions of dollars in funding that is available only to the “believers”.

      1. When another shows up tell them we’re in the back having a real conversation about the jewish origins of the climate lies dating back to the WZO meetings of the late 40’s.

        1. Didn’t learn your lesson when you lost your last disqus profile for your hatred, didja?You’re really a slow learner.Shouldn’t you be in “special education” class now?

  56. And there it is. IF you fight the liberals, they will make it a point to destroy you. That is socialism at its finest and it is alive and doing well in the States. They will intimidate and slander you into oblivions. They can not prove what they think so they get rid of anybody that disagrees. I think Hitler did that.

    1. Only people who don’t have facts are afraid to be challenged.That’s someone with an agenda – not a scientist.Their “agenda” is being threatened after spending years fomenting a lie. . . .pushing the faked/baked data. . . .

  57. well this was an adult conversation until IMPRISONCLINTONNOW showed up, now it is just a waste of time, I am out of here until some monitor has the power to send him into the ether where he belongs

    1. Flag this mope, not only here but in the Disqus system.Click on the time stamp next to his post, copy the URL at the top of the browser window (location of post) – then click on his name – in the disqus window that pops up, hit the “flag” button in the upper right hand corner, choose “spam” in the drop down choice, click “next” – in the next window, paste the URL of his post, and hit “next”. . . and you’re done.Now you’ve reported him not only to this site, but also the Disqus system.He’ll get purged from Disqus again . . .and maybe someone will even report his mental instability. . . .

    2. didn’t you notice his “brand new” profile?He’s been purged for his hatred before.He’ll be back under some other name eventually, but it usually only takes about an hour or so to get him and other disgusting hateful people purged.

  58. I just can’t get over how surreal this is, so many scientists telling us that the “debate is over”. Since when is Science no longer allowed to test hypotheses and report facts that contradict theories? Have we ever witnessed anything like this in recent history, where scientists who are experts in a particular field are shunned, fired, threatened or worse just for daring to follow where their data is taking them?

    1. How would they feel if we said “the science is settled” on aides, breast cancer, juvenile diabetes. . . . Parkinson. . . .all of it?They’d scream their heads off.Why don’t we claim the “science is settled” and no more fetus harvesting. . . .

      1. Not sure the “science” community wants to cure anything. No money $$$. Keep fixing symptoms is worth millions for them and their employers. Always, follow the money.

    2. Follow the money. These “scientists” are tired of long hours and no $$$. Tired of watching their nerdy, less educated cousins in tech industry make all the $$$. Rather than discover they now create. It pays better for them.

      1. I wish I could believe that so many scientists would do this. Maybe a few. Maybe some others just want to keep their jobs and faced with the prospect of not being able to feed their families they just shut up and do what they are told. I think also for a lot of them that climate change has become a liberal religion. This is their answer to people who believe in a creator. Well except for the Pope, I guess.

            1. IMO, the polluting countries will be penalized, “taxed”. The more pollution, the more tax assessed. This is designed to steal the wealth of the West. The reduction of measurable pollution, as defined by the UN, will become the incentive for these “scientists.” Of course, the whole thing is a Ponzi scheme and China, as the #1 polluter in the world, will never sign on to pollution standards created for U.S. or European countries. UN will give China, India, Brazil and other rat-a$$ “developing” countries very little incentive, with much lower goals (higher pollution) while strangling U.S. and Europe with stricter measures. The destruction of the West and capitalism is the goal of the UN.

        1. Nah, I was joking. Liberals have changed the term to “Climate Change” so now anyone who “denies” it can be accused of being dumb enough to think the climate never changes. The climate is always changing, every hour, every day, every year, and since the dawn of time, most of it due likely to solar and ocean cycles. If they had any self respect they would change it back to “Man Made Global Warming”.

  59. Thank you, Philippe Verdier. This makes me think of the movie, Network, when the newscaster proclaims: “I’m as mad as #ell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

    1. Just the fact that they are getting away with completely changing the name to “climate change”. There is no shame. They have no shame about global cooling that they were wrong about in the 70’s, and global warming that they are wrong about now, so change it to climate change and they’ll never have to be wrong again – the climate always changes.

  60. And this weekend NASA reports that the Antarctic ice is increasing. Has been all this time since Al Gore and the IPCC claim it is retreating. They are all climate hoaxers. Man caused global warming is a myth, a hoax, and a tax fraud. Climate change is real.

  61. Remember back in the day when they jailed people for claiming the earth was round?

    This hoax has taken over half a century already, and countless trillions poured in to it. Yet meteorologists cant even predict the weather 3 days from now.

    Climate is weather btw.
    Describe a
    tundra / polar
    temperate
    arid
    tropical
    …etc… all “means” of weather

  62. Of all the data that the Global Warmists can come up with they can only say that the earth has warmed a whopping 0.7 degrees F in over a CENTURY.

    Whoop.

    De.

    Do.

    Every other way you slice the data you get less warming.

    1. And even that is meaningless. The temp will also go down from time to time. And geologically speaking, time to time can be centuries and millennia. Mere blips of time in a geological sense. I don’t know what to fear most from these people…..the arrogance in their capacity to believe this crap, or their greed.

      1. We know without a doubt that the earth can be at least 5 degrees warming all by itself: the Medieval Warm period proves that.

        We know without a doubt that the earth can be at least 15 degrees colder all by itself: the Ice Age proves that.

        Yet these people are freaking out about 0,7 degrees. Insane.

        1. Exactly. and now CO2 is a pollutant. Even though it is a minuscule, but vital, substance in our atmosphere. Plants cannot survive without it. And here is something else many people fail to understand because the hoaxers never put it in perspective. They will claim that CO2 levels have risen 70%. But what they don’t tell you as that CO2 is only 0.01% of the total atmosphere. So the slightest bump in total CO2, can be a 50% increase. In other words, it can go from 0.01% to 0.015% of the total.

          We are like bacteria in respect to size on this planet. 8 billion bacteria on a planet this size would still be considered sterile.

  63. Personally, I find it funny how they claim it’s difficult to accurately measure how much ice is gained or lost.

    But they can sure measure the change in sea level down to fractions of a millimeter! lol

    1. Nobody is funding it. If it had any legs at all, the private sector would be funding the bejesus out of it. Anytime anyone has to plead to the government to force their agenda, it is a fraud. The fraudulant scientists are looking for a permanent meal ticket. The government views this as a permanent power grab of basically all of private business in some fashion. That is what this is in a nutshell.

  64. The Money Grubbing PHD’s need their research funding. If they admitted they were wrong about Global Warming, then they would lose funding for it. The Scientists would have to invent something else in order to get funding. Climate change is easy, manipulate data and lie. The People getting the cash for climate change fire anyone that gets in the way of easy money.

  65. Maybe if these people would stop lying… er…. “fudging the numbers” more people might believe them? And perhaps actually share your scientific analysis with the general public instead of hiding it? Call me crazy…

  66. That we humans have been fking up our planet is pretty obvious to anyone who has lived more than a couple of decades and doesn’t wear partisan political blinders. But the Global Warming crowd isn’t about accepting and addressing the obvious, they are all about control…controlling our thoughts, controlling our speech, controlling our actions and most of all, controlling our wallets.

    1. You aren’t “speaking” for anyone over here by me.We have pollution controls, etc.Could we do better? Of course. . . But until you talk to the “filthy” Chinese and what they’re doing and India, and the other 3rd world tin pot garbage holes, I’m done being “blamed” for what others perceive as “my” fault.Big, hairy middle finger to anyone who tries to blame me at this point. . .especially those who think I need to be “controlled” and insist on sticking their hands in my pocket based on that fraudulent “blame” stuff. . .

      1. There is but a single reason those countries don’t give the time of day to the global warming fraud. They already have all their citizen’s money. They don’t need to lie to them.

      2. I’m talking about dipsticks like you who live in denial that we humans ain’t smart enough not to poop in our own beds…something a even a freakin dog knows better than to do. I;m talking about libtards like you who never accept responsibility…it’s always someone else’s fault. Stick that hairy middle finger where the sun don’s shine and take some responsibility for YOUR actions and quit whining like a f’ing girl.

        1. A “libtard?”That shows you really don’t have a clue what or who you are talking about.Your nonsense post about “blame”. . . .We aren’t smart enough?Speak for yourself skippy. . . You’re the one who sounds like the “libtard” here. . . not me. . .

          1. if ya talk like a libtard and walk like a libtard, you are probably a libtard, libtard. Libtards whine and cry about how they are perfect and everyone else is the problem…just like you. If you don’t want to be perceived as a libtard, don’t act like a libtard.

  67. A group of “scientists” got together in the mid ’70’s and predicted by 2015 the world would have no oil. They got millions for wind and solar research for themselves.

  68. .

    So, worst case scenario…

    increased CO2 warms the planet…

    which results in much less fossil fuel being used to heat buildings and homes…

    which results in less CO2 going into the atmosphere…

    which results in Global Cooling.

    .

  69. Global warming causes, when you follow the money, are shown to be nothing but political excuses to waste trillions in unnecessary global spending. Billions of those tax dollars are taken from an unsuspecting public, then given – tax-free – to the global warming gurus who keep the lie going; so it really should come as no surprise that those very gurus do all they can to keep their cash-cow alive and kicking. Some estimates put the spending on global warming causes at one billion dollars a day.
    http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/global-warming-causes-global-spending-follow-the-money-video/

  70. If we want to end the fraud, then all we have to do is agree to succumb to a socialist / communist regime. Once they have total power, all of this will suddenly vanish.

  71. These so called global warming ‘scientists’ have lost their minds. They refuse to allow for the possibility that they may be wrong. It is NOT settled science. They’ve watched far too many science fiction movies and need to stop trying to silence scientists who have a right to express their opinions and any results of their studies of the phenomenon.
    Those who would silence them damage their own credibility.

  72. Where’s that world famous tolerance that liberals are known for???? Then I read a study from NASA that says Antarctica is GAINING ice. At the very least this proves that the science is NOT settled (also known as the liberal tactic of picking my ball up and going home when faced with facts). Facts to a liberal are like sunshine to Dracula.

    1. They don’t know nearly as much about the climate as they pretend too. There is a lot of grant money available for climate change scientists. There is a lot of potential revenue in taxing carbon. Always follow the money. The climate is so complex on this planet that scientists are only scratching the surface of how some aspects of it function. They know very little in reality. I’m not saying that increasing CO2 is good for life on the planet, it probably isn’t, but no one really knows how or if it will affect the global climate. There are just too many variables and no solid models.

  73. The same thing happens when you question evolution. The woman who discovered soft tissue in dinosaur bones was almost fired. She had to frantically find a way to explain how blood vessels and cells could be naturally preserved for 68 million years. People accused her of being a fraud and committing heresy. Whether is it climate change or evolution, if you speak out against it, they will silence you. That should raise a red flag. I love science, but not the perversion doctrinal nonsense it has become lately. Be skeptical. Follow the money. Question everything, especially the ideas they will vilify you for questioning.

  74. Marxists are always wanting to put someone in jail. This is what you do when you want to bully the skeptics and hoodwink the populace. Dirty little secret is that you have a crisis to capture large volumes of dollars for earth science research.
    If we want to put people in jail, how about mandatory jail time for investigators and major fines for organizations that either (a) fudge their data or (b) are enriching their organization through propaganda based on flawed analysis or deception.
    If you haven’t noticed, whenever environmental scientists have to standup to a rigorous analysis of their results by statisticians and rigorous review of their data out versus data in, i.e., after it is messaged, it is learned that they overstate or are outright fraudulent.
    As an example, NOAA needs to make the data they presented in their June paper presented in Nature which showed that the climate-change “hiatus” disappeared. Analysis of their results raise many questions. How about this. Lets sign up proponents and detractors of the results described in this paper. Lets also get NOAA, NASA and NSF in the loop to promote honest and credible scientific practices. We would then put together an objective team to assess the NOAA science method used to modify the raw input data. The input data shows a well defined hiatus. If the proponents that sign up and back these results, then they should get a bump up in their research budget of 10% by the GOV funding orgs. If, however, the skeptics are correct, then they should receive 30% of the proponents research budgets and an 30% from the GOV funding orgs.

  75. The tolerant, inclusive, welcoming-of-diverse-voices crowd silences/fires anyone not agreeing with them.

    It was the white, patriarchal, conservative males who established Western freedoms, often by shedding their own blood. This is their reward.

  76. FEMINISTS: “Weather changes…and always for the worse…and men cause it. Big Government/Patriarchy will punish anyone not agreeing with us!”

  77. Is there climate change? Sure, always has been always will be. How do I know? I have never
    been bitten by T-Rex. Is global warming a problem? NO. Follow the money look at the agenda and the people
    pushing it. Look at their tactics.

  78. If the Lying Criminal Left are really serious, which they are not they just want their enemies to die, then dry ice would be banned immediately, water vapor would be considered a greenhouse gas which it most certainly is, and all animals must die. Of course except their own ELITIST ASSES!

  79. People, this is precisely why you have a moral obligation to stop paying taxes. It is your hard earned money that funds the rigged studies that produce the “data” that fuels these political movements. Revolt!

        1. I dont know, I am thinking that the deployment of nuclear weapons could harm this planet. You said that man cant harm the planet, but we definitely can harm the planet.

          1. WildHog made the valid comment: we can only make ourselves extinct. Harm is relative in the wild. Who cares what is around if the nukes are exploded? Like a someone making a noise in the woods, if no one is there-who cares.

          2. The planet would heal itself as it has many times before. As I have said before, we are like bacteria on an elephant in comparison to this planet. 8 billion bacteria is still practically a sterile environment.

            1. By your logic, nothing can destroy the semblance of life from this planet — nothing at all. Are you familiar with water bears? You could as easily say, well, the water bears will still be someplace in the mutliverse, so who cares what happens to humans?

              1. Again, you conflate your “life” with the planet. They are two separate and distinct items.The planet was here long before you ever showed up. We had forests at the poles of the earth. Can you show me a cave painting of a hummer or a fossilized SUV? Show me who “caused” that then?The dinosaurs went bye-bye. . . theory is they were on their way out anyway when a meteor/asteroid hit.Then along came flora/fauna (KT boundary?), and small creatures, and us. . . .and lots of other stuff.

                1. Actually, I dont. I have stated to you and your ignoramus friend over and over, that without humans, there may as well be no life and you standard is absurd. Who knows, or cares, what happens to the planet when humans are gone? We only need to make it suitable, habitable, and sustainable while we are here. You want to speculate that life goes on without us — prove it. You have never addressed, what good is “life” without humans because you cant. I am done with silliness or your pseudo-logic. I will respond when and if I see a suitable argument that even comes close to rational reason.

                  1. “You want to speculate that life goes on without us — prove it.”Ohhhhhhhhh princess – you are soooooo deluded. . . .Billions of years, fossils of animals that lived millions of years ago long before you ever showed up on the scene.The dinosaurs, the oceanic animals found where no seas exist now. . . .You are so full of your own arrogance and self importance, you are beyond reason, and not worth wasting another minute debating.And yet, you would deny a planet to the very simians that you evolved from. (lowwwwwwwwwwww whistle)Answer the question – would you think those simians unworthy just because they hadn’t learned to use a keyboard yet and compute the caloric content of a McDonald’s breakfast?You’re soooooooooo narcissistic in your opinions of yourself, and what is “worthy” and what isn’t. You, my dear, would not even exist without the “earth” before humans. . . .And in your mind, if a world without humans isn’t worth it, then you, who is a product of the world before you, means you’re not worth it, either.

          3. What the planet has done, and the cosmos has done to this planet is far, far greater than what we can/have done.We can make ourselves extinct (India and Pakistan keep doing underground testing – so they’re going to blow themselves up.)But frankly – we’re “kiddys” compared to what the planet itself has done and the cosmos has done to the planet.BTW. . . . .Yellowstone Super Volcano is about 40,000 years over due for one heck of a “burp.”

            1. So what???!!! You are making a false distinction. The fact that stuff happens cosmically doesnt preclude nor prevent other bad stuff that we might do from happening. How can you not get that if my parents are killed in a car accident, it doesnt mean that my house cant burn down…?

              1. Pepe, the point being made in this thread is our capacity to destroy the planet. We agree that we can destroy ourselves. But the planet will survive.

                1. Destroying ourselves (humans) is destroying the planet. And quite honestly, you have absolutely no idea what would happen to the creatures of the earth. If there is a calamity that can kill all humans like a man-made nuclear holocaust, it could conceivably kill enough ecosystems to jeopardize the existence of all life on the planet. You cant say with any sense of surety that life will proceed. Yet, with your hubris, you do say that. Honestly, though, without humans, who cares? Literally, no one will care, because conscientious life will be gone.

                  1. “You cant say with any sense of surety that life will proceed. “But we can – and it does.It existed and thrived without us for millions upon millions of years.Fish evolved to have feet, and then other animals evolved.How do you know that a new “evolutionary” race would not erupt on the scene? A new human race?Just like the “Philistines” disappeared without a trace in 5 bc. And the Mayans. . . There was a “Permian/Triassic extinction event”. . .over two-thirds of all land-dwelling species and a whopping 95 percent of ocean-dwelling species were gone. That’s pretty much the whole shooting match princess. Over – done. And yet – the earth, and life survived. Without humans.Funny how your arrogance believes that the earth won’t recover. Life even survived/thrived after Pangaean super-continent split. The KT event (Chixculub), adding in the aggravating factor of the collision of India and Asia that fueled the “Deccan Traps” volcanic activity, and yet, life found a way and kept on going.You see – the planet has moved on from several extinction level events several times long before you arrived.

              2. You’re hyperventilating and missing the points we’re making, because you conflate the earth = people. And it doesn’t.The “planet” will survive, no matter what, until something much, much larger/greater than ourselves does something to it.We? We can only die. That’s it. We can pollute it – the planet will still be here and clean itself. We can nuke ourselves into oblivion. The planet will still be here, and will clean itself. . .and keep going.What part of that don’t you understand?Truthfully? You sound a bit childish and selfish – equating your “existence” with Earth.Earth was here long before you, or I or any of us, and it will be here long after you, or I or any of us is gone.

        1. Survive what, the nuclear winter that knows no boundaries because the radiation goes into the atmosphere. Plus, we have enough nuclear weapons to blow up the earth 7 times over… 7 times!

          Never-the-less, this is all theoretical , right? So what if we had enough nucs to blow it up 100 times over and they were used. Then you still contend we cant damage the earth?

          1. We can only be blown up once. And the survivors would have no desire or capability to keep doing it. We don’t have a way to use them all at once. Thats’ the main reason countries agreed to dismantle much of what we had. There was no point to have enough nukes to blow us all up over and over.

            1. I see a reason. (grin)Just keep launching until Russia and Iran are smoking ashtrays. . . .(grin)”Whatdya mean I’m out of missiles! Get some more!” (grin)

          2. He’s saying – the earth would survive. We wouldn’t – but the earth would.You keep confusing “humans” with earth. The earth has been around much much longer than we bipeds. . . .and if we nuked ourselves until we glowed – it would still be here. . . .

              1. The point is Pepe – the planet doesn’t exist for you.The planet exists for itself, on its own terms, not yours.The planet can send a massive Tsunami and wipe the west coast off the map. Eventually Reyes Point is going to end up near Alaska.The East Coast is full of deep vertical fissures which make it’s viability over the millennium dubious. . .There is evidence of ancient land slide run-outs under water where massive Tsunamis were sent and entire coasts were wiped out.People have been wiped out off the coasts, over and over.There are lahars created that can cover entire cities (and have.)There are landslides in Virginia that go back to the Pleistocene Ice Age, 25,000 years ago.As I said – the planet exists on its own terms, and in its own time. Not yours.Stop hyperventilating.

      1. We would not “harm” the world if we blew ourselves up with nukes. . . .we’d be gone (as the poster said, we’d be extinct). . . .Do you think our nukes are more powerful than a super volcano? If Yellowstone decided to “burp?”How about the Chicxulub meteor strike? Or the Vredefort strike?Comonnnnnn. . . .we’re “child’s play” compared to what the cosmos and our own planet can do to us. . .

          1. Yep. I’m more than a little “concerned” about Yellowstone myself. . but hey – if it blows, it blows. Nothing I can do about it. It has a previous plume that covered over half the US.And, it’s over due.The only problem that really bugs me is that it will really smack us hard before it takes care of the ME. . . .

        1. Yes, those could all make the human race extinct. That doesnt mean that man cant harm the planet for humans irreparably. If you are making the distinction that not everyone would be killed by the blast radius of nuclear weapons if we launched all nuclear weapons, but are acknowledging that the effects of the radiation would kill every human being, then you are both idiots. What is the difference?

          1. One only has to look at Chernobyl, plant life and animal life has exploded in the area. Sounds like nature is a little bit more robust than you want to believe. The arrogance lies in people who think we can change it ‘irreparably’

            1. There was a location in Illinois on Route 83 where there was 40 years of oil spill of PCPs. Considered the worst pollution point in Illinois over 5 acres. And they burned it to bedrock, over 1600 degrees – claimed nothing would ever grown there ever again.It’s filled with trees, grass, “like it never even happened.” (See? The earth is like Serv-Pro)

              1. Just like the Exxon oil spill off of California. They said it would be decades upon decades for us to fix it. It fixed itself in less than 20 years. Not a shred of it ever having taken place.

          2. “. . . .for humans. . . “Key words.Not the planet – for humans.The only thing “we” can do is die. Period. End of conversation.The planet will keep going. . . and going. . .and going. . . . Like it always has.We had forests at the poles of the earth in the Mesozoic period millions of years ago.We had a “snowball” earth (supposedly). . . .but no one knows what caused it.We have massive granite edifices carved by gigantic glaciers. . .we are finding Mammoths frozen in place suddenly with flowers still in their mouths. . . Yes, the planet will keep on going, until the sun either consumes us or dies, or the planet is put on an interstellar collision course with another asteroid or planet that is bounced out of orbit. . . .

            1. So you are making a distinction, the planet still functioning in some respect after humans are gone. All humans can do is die? That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. If humans die, there might as well be no planet. You are saying that humans dont matter. But humans are what give the planet consciousness and not just a sentient, carbon-based life-form. I, for one, prefer the planet where humans live. So, I will do whatever I can, in my small way, to prevent human caused dumb mistakes from killing all of the other humans. Anyone that has kids or cares about kids (or any other human being for that matter) has at least that minimum responsibility. Never-the-less, glad you acknowledge humans can actually kill themselves. That is a starting point.

              1. “If humans die, there might as well be no planet. “You’ve made my point, in all your self centered glory.Dinosaurs existed without you.The oceans, the seas, the plankton, and the even the sharks like Megalodon. . . .What makes you think you’re unique? Did it occur to you that there are other civilizations in the galaxy?The planet, in all its glorious mysteries, and wonderment, was here long before you and will be here long after you.You do understand that when the last ice age hit, the planet’s population was down to only a few thousand, right?We’ve come close a couple of times. So?You really need to get a more realistic sense about your place in the galaxy, and on this blue marble. You have a very over blown sense of your own self importance and your place in the world.We’re all just temporary. Do what you can, and the earth will take care of the rest.

          3. And as noted – we have, at the center of our galaxy, a “super black hole”. . . .And it is in a “quiet” stage right now. . . no one knows for how long, or when it will act up again.If our “super black hole” at the center of our galaxy starts to actively “feed” again. . . our solar system, along with billions of others in our little milky way galaxy will eventually be consumed by our own “super black hole.” Even if we’re gone. . .the planet will exist until something much larger/greater comes along and destroys it.

          4. You are the one that brought up nuclear weapons into this discussion. Yes, it would harm the planet for humans irreparably. But it would also only be temporary. Perhaps too late for people, but the planet and other living things would survive.

            1. Cant have it both ways: ” Yes, it would harm the planet for humans irreparably.” Then, literally, in the next sentence, you say “But it would also only be temporary.” It can only be temporary or irreparable.

              1. FOR HUMANS it might be irreparable before they died out. Not for the planet. Humans have a short life span. The planet does not. You are speaking as if people and the planet are the same thing. The planet doesn’t care if we are here or not.

                1. Though you cant say for sure that non-human life would go on in a nuclear Holocaust, let me for a moment accept your ludicrous premise and then ask you, what good is life on earth without humans anyway?

                  1. “what good is life on earth without humans anyway?”Wohowww man. . . just wow. . . . .You are so self-centered and beyond reason. . . .yea, it’s been around for billions of years – you’ve b