[Update – September 10, 2009: Wash. Post’s Own Meteorologist Counters Paper’s Claims! ‘I wince when hearing…science is ‘settled’ — Climate ‘hysteria’ may be ‘another bubble waiting to burst’ — Update: September 2, 2009: Washington Post Fires Back: Accuses Climate Depot of having ‘an anti-science and anti-science journalism agenda!’ – Climate Depot Responds Again]
The Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman of paper’s “The Capital Weather Gang”, has written a thorough commentary on why he believes the man-made global warming movement is failing politically and scientifically to convince the public and lawmakers of the seriousness of the issue. Freedman appears to lay the fault directly at the feet of President Obama, writing that Obama’s “mistakes may cost the planet dearly.” Freedman also cites Climate Depot (and the Heartland Institute) as having made a huge impact in shaping lawmakers and the public’s skeptical view of the latest climate science.
Freedman wrote in a September 1, 2009 Washington Post essay that the “influence of groups such as CFACT’s Climate Depot is only enhanced by White House’s low profile on climate science thus far.” Freedman lamented that Climate Depot has this impact “despite a lack of evidence to back up the claims of diminishing scientific concern.”
Freedman’s essay, titled “Obama Needs to Give a Climate Speech – ASAP,” notes that President Obama “needs to do [speak out] soon, before the debate slips farther away from him, and more years of inaction pass by.” Freedman asserts that the “increasing climate change skepticism among the public is troubling” and that Obama has “neglected to use his bully pulpit to hammer a climate science message.” Freedman frets that President Obama must give a big global warming speech “before the debate slips farther away from him, and more years of inaction pass by.”
Climate Depot Responds – ‘Delay’ is Essential
The reality is — contrary to Freedman’s assertions — “delay” is essential so that politicians and the public can continue to absorb the latest scientific developments casting considerable doubt on the climate claims of UN and other fear promoters. The more educated people are, the more skeptical they become. The public gets it and now even Democratic lawmakers in Washington are having their moment of global warming policy clarity. Now is the time for a sober reexamination of man-made global warming claims. It is not the time to support a “scientifically meaningless” climate bill. See: Climate Depot Editorial: Climate bill offers (costly) non-solutions to problems that don’t even exist – June 26, 2009
In the spirit of presenting the evidence. encouraging debate and serving as the critically needed ombudsman of the Fourth Estate, Climate Depot has reprinted almost in full Freedman’s commentary and conducted a point-by-point rebuttal. Freedman of the Washington Post is invited to respond to this Climate Depot Editorial and his comments will be published.
Climate Depot’s Point By Point Analysis
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: At this point in their presidency, which president — George W. Bush or Barack Obama — had made three climate science speeches or statements, including one lengthy speech, while the other had barely addressed it at all? If you picked former President Bush, you are correct. Are you surprised? Although Mr. Obama came into office pledging to chart a new course on climate science and policy, he has largely pitched climate change legislation on “clean energy” and “green jobs” grounds, and has not addressed the scientific reasoning behind his desire to enact new climate policies. This is a mistake that may cost the planet dearly, in addition to any political ramifications for the president.
Climate Depot Response: Freedman is correct about President Obama being similar to former President Bush. At Climate Depot, headlines frequently refer to President Obama as “George W. Obama.” Obama has taken a very similar stance as Bush when it comes to the UN by demanding China and India participate and he has acted as a “delayer” when it comes to climate policy. But President Obama has repeatedly made many silly and embarrassing climate claims: President Obama made the completely scientifically indefensible claim that the Waxman-Markey climate bill would stop global temperature increases of up to 5 degrees! Obama said on June 25, “A long-term benefit is we’re leaving a planet to our children that isn’t four or five degrees hotter.” How can the President of the U.S. can be so misinformed and full of such hubris that he somehow believes he can sign a bill that acts as a thermostat for Earth’s temperature? Is the Washington Post’s Freedman sure he really wants Obama to give a full speech on climate? At the G8 summit in Italy in July 2009, Obama and other G8 Leaders embraced “climate astrology” by pledging to control Earth’s thermostat to more than a 2 degree C rise. Obama’s Commerce Secretary Gary Locke was caught playing a climate mobster on July 17, 2009, warning Americans they needed to ‘to pay’ or face Mother Nature’s wrath — Pay up or face “floods, droughts and rising sea levels.’ In June, Obama’s Energy Sec. Chu, in true “climate astrology” fashion, claimed he knows “what the future will be 100 years from now” based on climate models. Obama seems so imbued with his ability to control climate that during the 2008 presidential campaign he prognosticated his presidency would be “the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” (For latest scientific data refuting sea level rise fears see here.) Once again, does the Washington Post really want to risk having Obama give a full speech on this issue?
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: A search of whitehouse.gov reveals the closest President Obama came to clearly stating his views on climate science occurred in late June, during a speech on energy policy, when he said, “There’s no longer a debate about whether carbon pollution is placing our planet in jeopardy; it’s happening.” This point is largely consistent with the consensus view expressed in the peer-reviewed climate science literature, to the extent that it communicates the causal link between carbon dioxide and climate change. However, it represents somewhat of an exaggeration since no major scientific group has outright stated climate change jeopardizes the future of the planet, but rather that it poses potentially significant risks, depending on the pace and amount of warming.
Climate Depot’s Response: At least the Washington Post is acknowledging Obama climate views “represent somewhat of an exaggeration.” Progress! But Freedman asserts Obama’s view is “consistent with the consensus view expressed in the peer-reviewed climate science literature…” What “view” is that? That would be the politically driven “consensus” view of the United Nations and the governing boards of major science groups (with no direct vote of scientific members) and the EPA which suppresses its own internal science reports that claims “do not help the legal or policy case” for regulating Co2 as a pollutant. (See: The EPA Silences a Climate Skeptic & See: EPA further muzzles global warming skeptic Dr. Alan Carlin – August 25, 2009) Much of what the media considers the “consensus view” is merely the best science politics can manufacture. It is time for the media to start reading up on latest peer-reviewed studies and data which make a mockery of “consensus” claims.
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: To date, Obama’s lone accomplishment on climate change science has been the release of a report on the potential impacts in June, but it essentially summarized the results of 21 studies commissioned by the Bush Administration. Furthermore, the White House has been sluggish in reorganizing the U.S. Global Change Research Program in a way that puts it on a path to producing scientific reports that policy makers can use — a major criticism of those studies completed under Bush.
Climate Depot Response: Sadly, “Obama’s lone accomplishment” on climate is truly a massive embarrassment. See: ‘Scaremongering’: Scientists Pan Obama Climate Report: ‘This is not a work of science but an embarrassing episode’ – June 16, 2009 & U.S. Government Scientist: ‘I disagree strongly with the hurricane-related conclusions of this report!’ – June 16, 2009 – If this woeful report was Obama’s “lone accomplishment” on climate so far, we are in for a very scary future.
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: The need for leadership on climate change science further solidifies when one considers current public attitudes on the issue. Recent polling has shown public concern about climate change may be dropping, just when lawmakers are weighing new climate policies.
Climate Depot Response: Freedman is dead on accurate about the polling data. American People ‘Get it’: Americans are growing increasingly skeptical, voters are rebelling against the unfounded climate fears and the so-called “solutions” in growing numbers. Below is a small sampling of recent polling data on global warming.
1) Gallup survey found global warming ranked dead last in the U.S. among ENVIRONMENTAL issues – March 2009
2) Gallup Poll Editor: Gore has ‘Failed’ — ‘The public is just not that concerned’ about global warming – May 2009
3) Zobgy Poll: Only 30% of Americans support cap-and-trade — 57% oppose – April 2009
4) “Gallup Poll: Record-High 41% of Americans Now Say Global Warming is Exaggerated” – March 11, 2009
5) Rasmussen Poll found Only 34% Now Blame Humans for Global Warming – ‘Lowest finding yet’ — ‘reversal from a year ago!’
6) Rasmussen Reports: Congress Pushes Cap and Trade, But Just 24% Know What It Is – May 11, 2009
7) NPR survey: ‘Climate Change’ finishes dead last in yet another voter poll – 12th out of 12 issues! – July 29, 2009
Even mainstream journalists are now openly questioning the importance of man-made climate fears. See: BBC’s Richard Black is asking the right questions! ‘Has climate change hijacked the wider environmental agenda?’
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: If the polls accurately reflect public opinion, which is questionable, then the increasing climate change skepticism among the public is troubling. It flies in the face of most of the scientific evidence on how climate change is already reshaping the globe, and indicates that there is a gaping disconnect between science and the public.
Climate Depot’s Response: Huh? Skepticism is “troubling?” Freedman claims skepticism “flies in the face of most of the scientific evidence” NASA’s James Hansen has tried to peddle this swill as well. See: NASA’s Hansen: Skepticism ‘can confuse the public’ Since when has questioning the “consensus” view of a political arm of the United Nations (hint: The word “Intergovernmental” is in the IPCC’s title!) become “troubling?” Why should questioning the “consensus” statements issued by the two dozen politically connected governing board members of science groups and climate model “scenarios” become “troubling?” Climate fear promoters are literally insulting the public’s intelligence when they cite a self interested UN political arm or the governing board member statements of science groups as “proof” of a scientific “consensus.” What “gaping disconnect between science and the public” is Freedman referring to? Freedman seems to believe the press releases from the UN. How sad.
Reality Check: A small sampling of recent developments include: new peer-reviewed studies, real world data, a growing chorus of scientists dissenting (including more UN IPCC scientists), open revolts in scientific societies, more evidence that rising CO2 is a boon for the atmosphere, and the Earth’s failure to warm. In addition, public opinion continues to turn against climate fear promotion and even activists at green festivals are now expressing doubts over man-made climate fears and a Nobel Prize-winning economist is wishing for ‘tornadoes’ and ‘a lot of horrid things’ to convince Americans of a climate threat.
There has been no significant global warming since 1995, no warming since 1998 and global cooling for the past few years. Lack of warming for past decade and recent global cooling, follow a peer-reviewed analysis showing the 20th century was not unusually warm. A March 2009 a 255-page U. S. Senate Report detailed “More Than 700 International Scientists Dissenting Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims.” 2009’s continued lack of warming, further frustrated the promoters of man-made climate fears. In addition, a global temperature analysis on April 24, 2009 found “No continents have set a record high temperature since 1974.”
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: Scientists have repeatedly warned about the consequences of failing to act soon on climate change…
Climate Depot’s Response: Yes, Freedman is 100% correct when he asserts: “Scientists have repeatedly warned about the consequences of failing to act soon on climate change…” As early as 1989, the UN was already trying to sell their “tipping point” rhetoric on the public. See: U.N. Warning of 10-Year ‘Climate Tipping Point’ Began in 1989
In addition, Hansen and Gore started their comical “tipping point” clocks a few years ago, while Prince Charles claimed a 96-month tipping point in July 2009! Even more absurd, the UN chief further shortened the “tipping point,” warning of ‘incalculable’ suffering without climate deal in December 2009! The question looms: Would you buy a used car from a salesman using such low-brow tactics, let alone, buy into man-made climate fear claims? Finally, let’s not forget Newsweek’s wading into the tipping point silliness: Newsweek wrote: “The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.” There is only one problem with Newsweek’s “tipping point” quote — it appeared in a April 28, 1975 article about global cooling! Same rhetoric, different eco-scare. At long last, have the climate fear promoters no shame? The public understands when “we must act now” claims are being manufactured for political purposes. See: Gore: U.S. Climate Bill Will Help Bring About ‘Global Governance’ – July 10, 2009
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: The chairman of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change recently endorsed a far-reaching goal of reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to 350 parts per million (ppm), down from the current level of about 389 ppm, in order to avoid dangerous climate change. Most policy makers are focused on trying to contain the increase of such gases to 450 ppm, and even this goal may be beyond reach considering the glacial pace of international negotiations.
Climate Depot Response: Climate Depot has published a special report on Co2. See: Rising CO2 a Boon for Biosphere – Earth in ‘CO2 Famine’ – Cutting CO2 ‘a profoundly evil act’ – Climate Depot Fact Sheet on CO2 : In praise of CO2: Earth ‘is the greenest it’s been in decades, perhaps in centuries’
Prominent Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer Testified to Congress: Earth in ‘CO2 Famine’ in February 2009. Excerpt: ‘The increase of CO2 is not a cause for alarm and will be good for mankind’ : Washington, DC — Award-winning Princeton University Physicist Dr. Will Happer declared man-made global warming fears “mistaken” and noted that the Earth was currently in a “CO2 famine now.” Happer, who has published over 200 peer-reviewed scientific papers, made his remarks during today’s Environment and Public Works Full Committee Hearing. “Many people don’t realize that over geological time, we’re really in a CO2 famine now. In addition, New Zealand Climate Scientist Chris de Freitas revealed on May 1, 2009 that “warming and CO2 are not well correlated.” de Freitas added, “the effect of CO2 on global temperature is already close to its maximum. Adding more has an ever decreasing effect.” Australian Geologist Dr. Ian Plimer wrote on August 8, 2009: “At present, the Earth’s atmosphere is starved of CO2…One big volcanic eruption can add as much CO2 in a day as humans do in a year.” Plimer, who authored the skeptical book Heaven and Earth, added, “On all time scales, there is no correlation between temps and CO2. If there is no correlation, then there can be no causation.” Professor Dr. Doug L. Hoffman, mathematician, computer programmer and engineer, wrote on August 24, 2009: “There have been ice ages when the levels of Co2 in Earth’s atmosphere have been many times higher than today’s.” Hoffman, who worked on environmental models and conducted research in molecular dynamics, co-authored the 2009 book, The Resilient Earth. Finally, renowned atmospheric scientist Dr. Reid Bryson said in 2007: “You can go outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide.”
Scientists caution that the key to remember here is “climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables,” not just CO2. UK Professor Emeritus of Biogeography Philip Stott of the University of London decried the notion that CO2 is the main climate driver. “As I have said, over and over again, the fundamental point has always been this: climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, and the very idea that we can manage climate change predictably by understanding and manipulating at the margins one politically-selected factor is as misguided as it gets,” Stott wrote in 2008. Even the climate activists at RealClimate.org let this point slip out in a September 20, 2008 article. “The actual temperature rise is an emergent property resulting from interactions among hundreds of factors,” RealClimate.org admitted in a rare moment of candor.
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: To address the public’s questions, President Obama needs to lay out the scientific case for action, including what studies show about the potential costs of inaction. Thus far, he has neglected to use his bully pulpit to hammer a climate science message home, thereby helping to fuel skepticism about climate science and lend support to the building backlash against the policies he favors.
Climate Depot Response: The answer is very simple. There is no legitimate case for “the potential costs of inaction.” The UN’s Kyoto Protocol – even if fully enacted and complied with and assuming the UN was correct on climate fears – would have virtually no detectable impact on global temperatures. More importantly, despite much ballyhooed rhetoric about how the Congressional climate bill will “save the earth”, the bill is “scientifically meaningless.” The media touted Stern Report from the UK urging action on warming has been shown to be laughable. Obama’s own EPA has admitted the Waxman-Markey bill would not even detectably reduce atmospheric CO2 levels. What case is there to be made for a bill that is purely symbolic? Freedman attempts to tout Congressional or UN carbon trading bills as an “insurance” policy against global warming. But a simple question to ask is: Would you purchase fire insurance on your home that had a huge up front premium for virtually no payout if your home burned down? If you answered YES to such an “insurance” policy, then Congress and the UN has a deal for you with their cap-and-trade legislation.
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: After all, if enough lawmakers and members of the public become convinced that the science is too unsettled to act, it’s less likely that action will be taken, which would be a stunning act of defiance against the climate science community that has firmly concluded that mankind is disrupting the climate system.
Climate Depot Response: Say what?! Let’s get this straight, Freedman is asserting that failing to pass a “scientifically meaningless” climate bill amounts to “a stunning act of defiance against the climate science community?” Come on! Who speaks for the “climate science community?” The UN? The two dozen or so governing board members of science organizations? James Hansen? Al Gore? Environmental groups? What about the growing blowback against man-made climate fears occurring all over the world. Is it an act of “defiance” against science when you question computer model scares which even the UN admits are not “predictions.”
Evidence that the global warming fear movement is collapsing — abounds.
In July 2009, the world’s largest science group, the American Chemical Society (ACS) was “startled” by an outpouring of scientists rejecting man-made climate fears, with many calling for the removal of the ACS’s climate activist editor. Another development in shattering the so-called “consensus” was an Open Letter signed by more than 130 German scientists urging German Chancellor to “reconsider” her climate views. See: ‘Consensus’ Takes Another Hit! More than 130 German Scientists Dissent Over Global Warming Claims! Call Climate Fears ‘Pseudo ‘Religion’; Urge Chancellor to ‘reconsider’ views – August 4, 2009 On May 1 2009, the American Physical Society (APS) Council decided to review its current climate statement via a high-level subcommittee of respected senior scientists. The decision was prompted after a group of over 80 prominent physicists petitioned the APS revise its global warming position. The year 2009 also saw a report from 35 international scientists countering the UN IPCC. See: “Climate Change Reconsidered: The 2009 Report of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change” This year also saw the flow of peer-reviewed scientific papers continue to be published challenging the UN IPCC climate views. as well. See: Peer-Reviewed Study Rocks Climate Debate! ‘Nature not man responsible for recent global warming…little or none of late 20th century warming and cooling can be attributed to humans’ – July 23, 2009
Peer-Reviewed Study Demonstrates Anthropogenic Contribution to Global Warming Overestimated, Solar Contribution Underestimated – Geophysical Research Letters- March 3, 2009
New Peer-Reviewed Study: Evidence that Global Temperature Trends Have Been Overstated: ‘Effects of CO2 on global temp trends may have been overstated in past assessments by some amount’ – August 13, 2009
Another New Peer-Reviewed Study: Ocean net heat flow is connected with climate shifts – CO2 not correlated – no ‘warming in the pipeline’ – August 17, 2009
Science is Settled! CO2 irrelevant in climate debate says MIT Scientist Lindzen: ‘We know that CO2 is having very little effect on the climate’ – August 18, 2009
New peer-reviewed scientific studies now predict a continued lack of global warming for up to three decades as natural climate factors dominate. (See: Climate Fears RIP…for 30 years!? – Global Warming could stop ‘for up to 30 years! Warming ‘On Hold?…’Could go into hiding for decades’ study finds – Discovery.com – March 2, 2009 )
In addition, many scientists and reports are predicting a coming global cooling. See: Astronomers: ‘Sun’s output may decline significantly inducing another Little Ice Age on Earth’ – August 15, 2009 & Scientific evidence now points to global COOLING, contrary to U.N. alarmism – August 4, 2009
In April 2009, the Polish National Academy of Science “published a document that expresses skepticism over the concept of man-made global warming.”
In 2008, a canvass of more than 51,000 Canadian Earth scientists revealed 68% disagree that global warming science is “settled”, with only 26% of the scientists attributing global warming to “human activity like burning fossil fuels.”
A Japan Geoscience Union symposium survey in 2008 reportedly “showed 90 per cent of the participants do not believe the IPCC report.”
Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists. The prestigious International Geological Congress, dubbed the geologists’ equivalent of the Olympic Games, was held in Norway in August 2008 and prominently featured the voices of scientists skeptical of man-made global warming fears. [See: Skeptical scientists overwhelm conference: ‘2/3 of presenters and question-askers were hostile to, even dismissive of, the UN IPCC’ & see full reports here & here ]
For more complete analysis see: Science of man-made climate fears continues to collapse – August 26, 2009
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: Like the public, some fence-sitters in the Senate are unsure what to believe about climate change as well. Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), for example, was quoted by Grist Magazine as saying, in response to a question on his view of the link between human activities and climate change, “I’d be foolish if I didn’t give it some consideration because there’s a massive amount of scientists that feel that it does. But there’s also an increasing number of scientists that have doubt about it.” […] Grassley’s statement regarding the number of scientists that have doubts about manmade climate change is telling, since that is the message being disseminated via blast emails and confabs sponsored by the pro-industry Heartland Institute, as well as the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), a market-oriented group that sponsors the Climate Depot Web site. That site, and others like it, consistently assert that there is a growing defection of experts from the scientific consensus view, seemingly based on the theory that if one repeats a message often enough, it will gradually become the truth.
Climate Depot Response: Climate Depot is merely factually reporting on mass defections to the so-called “consensus”, sadly, the Washington Post has mostly abandoned this type of objective reporting years ago on this issue, instead claiming the debate is over. It is very flattering that the Washington Post believes Climate Depot has virtually single handedly thwarted tens of billions of dollars of research money and carbon trading promoting man-made warming, a compliant media, a Presidential administration, the United Nations, and NASA’s James Hansen, Nobel Winner Al Gore, and many others. The fact is, Climate Depot is simply reporting on the international blowback of scientists dissenting. See: Science of man-made climate fears continues to collapse – August 26, 2009
In the end, no matter how hard many try, they can’t suppress science and evidence. There is a reason prominent leaders in the man-made climate movement are actively seeking the next eco-scare. See: The news is so grim for man-made climate fear activists that they are already looking for the next environmental scare to hype! See: AGW RIP? Is It Time for Next Eco-Scare Already? Gore’s producer Laure David touts plastic crisis: ‘Plastic waste is in some ways more alarming for us humans than global warming’ – July 31, 2009
UK Green Party: ‘There exists a more serious crisis than the ‘CO2 crisis’: the oxygen levels are dropping and the human activity has decreased them by 1/3 or ½’
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: Sen. Grassley’s comments demonstrate that there may be a lot of merit in that strategy, despite a lack of evidence to back up the claims of diminishing scientific concern. The influence of groups such as CFACT’s Climate Depot is only enhanced by the White House’s low profile on climate science thus far.
Climate Depot Response: Freedman appears to be claiming that Climate Depot has the extraordinary ability to effectively thwart President Obama’s climate agenda. Freedman claims Climate Depot has done so “despite a lack of evidence to back up the claims of diminishing scientific concern?” First off, thanks for the compliment, second, the evidence countering the UN, Gore, Obama and the media portrayal of climate science is in fact, so overwhelming it is difficult to keep up. Every day and week brings literally A-Z debunking of climate fear promoters claims on man-made global warming fears. Global temperatures failing to warm; Peer-reviewed studies predicting a continued lack of warming; a failed attempt to revive the discredited “Hockey Stick”; inconvenient developments and studies regarding rising CO2; the Spotless Sun; Clouds; Antarctica; the Arctic; Greenland’s ice; Mount Kilimanjaro; Global sea ice; Causes of Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Extinctions; Floods; Droughts; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; Extreme weather deaths; Frogs; lack of atmospheric dust; Malaria; the failure of oceans to warm and rise as predicted. Once again, please read this comprehensive Climate Depot exclusive: Science of man-made climate fears continues to collapse – August 26, 2009
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: The bottom line is that if President Obama wants action to be taken on climate change under his watch, he needs to speak up, and not just about green jobs and clean energy, as worthwhile as they are. He should lay out the scientific foundation underlying climate policy proposals, basing his statements on peer-reviewed scientific research, conducted free from political interference.
Climate Depot Response: Agree fully here. The public would benefit Obama “laying out the scientific foundation” for promoting a “scientifically meaningless” climate bill that according to his own EPA will not even impact global CO2 levels, let alone temperature! As for the “free from political interference” part, that would be especially welcome as well. Just ask EPA’s Dr. Alan Carlin. (See: EPA further muzzles global warming skeptic Dr. Alan Carlin – August 25, 2009)
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: Obama could do so by traveling to a laboratory of any of the dozen or more federal agencies involved with global change research, or by going to a location that is particularly vulnerable to global warming.
Climate Depot Response: Yes, it would be helpful to go the very federal agencies accused of suppressing skeptical science. Perhaps NASA’s James Hansen could advise Obama on how to really silence EPA’s Alan Carlin. See: Hansen calls for trials of climate skeptics in 2008 for “high crimes against humanity.” Also see: ‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’ – June 2009 Perhaps Obama could consult with some dissenting U.S. Government scientists as well. See: U.S. Govt Scientist: If climate ‘trial’ occurred ‘only those with religious convictions of warming claims would continue to hold any support for man-made global warming’ & U.S. Navy Chemist Trashes New York Times for ‘Continuously regurgitating fear-mongering, anecdotal clap trap of global warming propagandists’ & U.S. Government Scientist: ‘I disagree strongly with the hurricane-related conclusions of this [Obama] report!’ – June 16, 2009
Washington Post’s Andrew Freedman: [Obama should] deliver a speech clearly articulating the reasons why scientists are so concerned that some have now turned to civil disobedience to get their point across, and remind people how the climate change problem is linked to energy policy. But he needs to do this soon, before the debate slips farther away from him, and more years of inaction pass by.
Climate Depot Response: The world can only hope that many, many “more years of inaction pass by” for the sake of the poor in the Western nations and the developing world’s poor who have the most to lose from so-called “solutions” to global warming. The estimated 1.6 billion people in the world without electricity who are leading a nasty, brutish and short life, will be the ones who “will pay” for global warming solutions that prevent them from obtaining cheap and abundant carbon based energy. (See: 1) It is a moral issue! – ‘People cannot cook’…Chad’s Global Warming Inspired Ban on Charcoal leads to ‘Desperate’ Families! – January 16, 2009 2) Black clergymen protest Robert Redford ‘link his environmentalism to racism’ 3) Poor Kenyans rebel as UK grocery store’s “carbon friendly” policies may stop food exports – 4) African Activist: ‘African life span is lower than it was in U.S. and Europe 100 years ago. But Africans told we shouldn’t develop’ because wealthy Western nations are ‘worried about global warming’: ‘Telling Africans they can’t have electricity and economic development – is immoral; 5) India: ‘It is morally wrong for us to reduce emissions when 40% of Indians do not have access to electricity’ ; 6) Obama Advisor Warren Buffett ‘repeats criticism of cap and trade, saying it would be a huge, regressive tax’) 6) UN Scientist: African Nations Rebelling at ‘measures to use climate change to maintain colonialist master-servant relationship’ – August 27, 2009
Climate Depot final thought:
The sooner we can eliminate the UN from climate and energy policy, the better off energy distribution and the developing world’s poor will become. The world needs energy initiatives, not anti-energy initiatives, and as we go forward, the less the United Nations has to do with climate and energy, the better. After all, passing a “scientifically meaningless” climate bill that does not impact global temperatures or CO2 levels is hardly worth spending a moments time worrying about.
If we did actually face a man-made climate catastrophe and the “solutions” of the UN and Congress were our only hope, we would all be DOOMED!
WaPo’s Andrew Freedman Ducks TV Debate with Climate Depot’s Morano
Flashback 2006: Morano Debates IPCC’s Chairman Pachauri at UN Conference in Kenya
Shock: Wash. Post Blames Obama For Failure of Global Warming Movement! President’s ‘mistakes may cost the planet dearly’
Wash. Post Fires Back: Accuses Climate Depot of having ‘an anti-science and anti-science journalism agenda!’ — Climate Depot Responds
Wash. Post’s Own Meteorologist Counters Paper’s Claims! ‘I wince when hearing…science is ‘settled’ — Climate ‘hysteria’ may be ‘another bubble waiting to burst’ – September 10, 2009
World-Wide Reaction to Climate Depot’s Public Climate Clash with the Washington Post: Climate Depot ‘point by point minced Wash. Post’s empty claims’ – September 4, 2009
MIT Climate Scientist: ‘Ordinary people see through man-made climate fears — but educated people are very vulnerable’ – July 6, 2009
Shock: Wash. Post Blames Obama For Failure of Global Warming Movement! President’s ‘mistakes may cost the planet dearly’ – September 1, 2009
Climate Depot Special Report: Science of man-made climate fears continues to collapse – August 25, 2009
Climate Depot’s Inconvenient Rebuttal to ‘National Security’ Climate Argument – August 9, 2009
Media Factsheet: Climate Depot Serving as the Media’s Ombudsman – August 21, 2009