The monster blizzard of 2015 will be adding to what is already the snowiest decade on the East Coast.
“Assuming this storm gets ranked by NOAA as one of the high impact (population affected by snowstorm) snowstorms (likely since the November storm was), we will have had 14 major impact storms this decade (only half over) beating out the 10 in the 1960s and 2000s,” Joseph D’Aleo, CCM (Certified Consulting Meteorologist), told Climate Depot on Monday.
“Watch for widespread sub-zero cold next week if the European models are right (all the way to North Carolina and including DC area),” D’Aleo, the co-chief Meteorologist with Weatherbell Analytics, added.
The increase in snowfalls is counter to what the UN IPCC predicted. See: In 2001, the IPCC predicted milder winters and less snow. Experts are hoping no one remembers – UN IPCC 2001: ‘Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms’
In addition, The New York Times has featured scientists and climate activists claiming snow would decrease. See: Flashback 2014 New York Times: ‘The End of Snow?’
Also in 2000, scientists in the UK boldly predicted the end of snow due to ‘global warming.’ See: Flashback 2000: ‘Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past’: According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become ‘a very rare and exciting event. Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.’
The blizzard bearing down on the U.S. this week is now being blamed on global warming. See: 2015 U.S. Blizzard blamed on ‘global warming’ – Warmist Bill McKibben: Blizzards are ‘Climate change at work’ – NY Gov.: ‘Part of the changing climate’
Climate Depot’s Marc Morano Responds: ‘Blizzard blamed on global warming?! Is there any weather event that is inconsistent with global warming? — This is now akin to the predictions of Nostradamus or the Mayan calendar. There is no way anyone can falsify the global warming theory now because any weather event that happens proves’ their case.’
Other media outlets are promoting the 2015 blizzard and climate change link as well. See: Washington Post’s Chris Mooney: Global warming could make blizzards worse: ‘Extreme snowfall may actually be enhanced by global warming. I know it sounds counterintuitive‘
Below is a round-up of scientists debunking the notion that blizzards are caused by man-made ‘global warming.’
2013: Climate Astrology: Blizzard blamed on global warming?! Is there any weather event that is inconsistent with global warming? — Climate Depot Round up – ‘No matter what the weather is like, it always turns out to be exactly the kind of weather we should expect if human activity were causing global temps to rise’
2013: Round Up: Meteorologists Slaps Down latest warmist claim of ‘Less snow = more blizzards’ — AP’s Seth Borenstein rebutted – Meteorologist Dr. Ryan Maue mocks: ‘Hint, if your theory or hypothesis involves contradictions, may be time to admit your original knowledge of subject was inadequate’
2013: Meteorologist Slaps Down latest warmist claim of ‘Less snow = more blizzards’ — ‘Whac-a-moling Seth Borenstein at AP over his erroneous extreme weather claims’ – By Dr. Richard Keen, Meteorologist Emeritus, University of Colorado, Boulder
Gore now claims ‘increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with… man-made global warming’
For more see: 2015 U.S. Blizzard blamed on ‘global warming’ – Warmist Bill McKibben: Blizzards are ‘Climate change at work’
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Must be that damned global warming
This is all due to global warming. Just ask the rabid carbon tax collectors. You can be assured you will be called a denier by one of their ‘knows better than you’ meteorologist weather experts.
I wear the denier label as a badge of honor.
Yep
global warming campaign failed big time
climate change is the new phrase that covers everything, it’s meant to replace global warming in the propaganda
Next up?” Atmospheric Interference” The environmental wacko’s hope to be one phrase ahead of the duped public!
“Climatically challenged”
Temperature instability.
Eventually they will just reduce to the whole idea to “climate revenues.”
Or even better, if we don’t act we’ll all be dead soon enough. Death solves all problems apparently…no man, no problem
not for the dinosaurs lol
You are one sick puppy… “Sweetheart.”
Thanks, candypants 😉
TEH SKY IS FALLING!!!1!!!1!!!11!1!111111!111!11111!1111!!!!!!!1!111!111!!
Yes, a tax on breathing.
Sweetheart what tax?????? You need to stop watching fox news. You don’t know what you’re talking about. But thats what fox news does, confuse you “simpel-folk” Thank you.
Hey, richard sell any more solar panels? I’m sure you haven’t.
Sweetheart the solar industry is kicking ass!!!!!!!! My director is now going to night school to advance his career in solar!!!!! I’m having so much fun teaching people how to become a capitalist by using solar. They love me, I teach them how to create trickle down economis and redistribute wealth into your own pocket. Did you invest in solar yet???????
What do solar panels do to produce electricity at night?
Wait, whut? You mean you can’t produce electricity with solar panels if the sun’s on the other side of the planet? Hmmm…that begs the question – how do you produce electricity with wind power if there’s no wind?
Mind – BLOWN!
Dang, I hate so much when people make sense. Wow, so terrible. BTW, I have been in power for years – I understand a lot more than the average liberal does about voltage and frequency maintenance. Solar and wind present serious headaches for load dispatchers.
I used to be an underwriter for the power generation industry. I know how much wind turbines cost, and I know how often they break down. And I saw in very clear terms that you cannot recoup the cost of the machines in their lifetime at current market rates for electricity – which is exactly why the taxpayer has to subsidize “Green Energy” for anyone to actually break even. Profit? Fuggetaboutit.
The load swings of solar and wind have to be balanced by other sources of power, or someone gets cut off. Any heat driven plant, coal, gas, or nuclear, needs time to react. Nuclear, simply put, can’t do load swings – the extreme example of a result of nuclear load swinging is Chernobyl. But turbine driven plants, whether gas or steam or combined cycle can’t react instantly. Hydro is the “fill in”. We have very few rivers left to dam, so we are approaching a crisis, driven by complete ignorance of how things actually work.
“Nuclear, simply put, can’t do load swings”….breeder reactors sure as heck can, but not light water reactors
I doubt it, seriously. Experiments at Hanford would indicate problems with other than steady state operations. But my information is about 25 years old. Maybe things have changed.
There’s a little something called BATTERIES,which store the energy gained from daytime sun light by solar panels. Its not rocket science, really lol
Do you have any inkling of the scale of the batteries necessary to make a difference? You obviously have no grasp on reality. I have been in power since 1981. I do have an inkling. Your statement is totally ludicrous.
I HAVE solar panels on my roof, and of COURSE the sun isn’t shining 24/7. As a matter of fact, there is so much energy generated by them that I actually SELL power back to the local grid. My batteries can literally go days without a drop of sun they save so much energy
Sweetheart what do you think Solar Panels do at night?????? You “simpel-folk” are so cute. Thank you
Idiot, power is used at night, too. People heat or cool their houses at night. I won’t go so far as to explain why they might heat or cool, because you aren’t smart enough to understand the explanation, but power is consumed at night too. What is the source?
BATTERIES that save the energy is the source
You have no inkling of scale, do you? I can’t start to explain the difference between a couple of KW at the household level during the day vs. 1200MW steady state power to the grid from a nuclear unit. You wouldn’t understand, and I won’t waste my time.
Then don’t, because you’d probably sound more foolish than you already do
Sweetheart you are home-schooled aren’t you??????? You don’t have a clue!!!!! You need to watch my show do you can learn how to become a critical thinker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3g8fd9D7ZI
Perhaps they should try being a capitalist in solar with out Gov. subsidies, but then they would all be Broke. A waste of Tax dollars.
Sweetheart you can be a smart businessman and take advantage of the incentives and redistribute wealth into your own pocket, or you can give it to a corporation. The choice is yours. It’s sad you don’t understand the “free-market” and capitalism SORRY!!!!!! The koch brothers will be proud of you they love you “simpel-folk” thank you.
solar energy will never amount to more than what it is today. half-ass. its a noble idea but the technology has reached a permanent plateau in this field.
Not at least until every household has a solar panel on its roof. Plenty more to go
Sweetheart it’s sad you don’t understand Solar but that’s what the koch brothers want. “Simple-folk” who don’t understand science. I feel sorry for you, but I feel worse for your kids. SORRY!!!!!!
That would be the taxes on my policy that go towards Obama care. That is why my policy went up 5% this year alone due to the “Obama care” taxes.
You might want to check in with Jerry Brown – he’s the governor of California, by the way – who just added $.10 per gallon tax on gasoline this year, and he calls it a “global warming tax.” Quit listening to CNN, Salon, the New York Times, and the Huffington Post, all of which only promote “news” that harms the citizens of this country, while the rich get richer.
That is Obamacare
Only applied to people that work for a living. The leaches (liberals) can continue to breathe without charge.
Especially veterans and the elderly,right? ZZZzzzzzz
Cobra is a gruberite. Like obamacare, warmists rely on the stupidity of voters like cobra to pass legislation to fund their lifestyle. In the meantime he is using his phone or laptop which has its power derived from fossil fuels. It’s materials and batterys raped from the earth using giant fossil fuel excavation eqipment. It’s assembly by slave labor in China, sold at a big box retailer which doesn’t pay a living wage. Cobra is the worst of an hipocrite, despicable in fact.
Re-brand it any way you like, but the law of diminishing returns is beginning to take hold. Climate-gate, IPCC defectors, and the last 15 or so years of pure experience are showing how “proven” and “settled” the theory of climate change really is.
Climate change will be the “Eugenics” of the 21st century.
3 words: Follow the money!
Bingo! It’s all a play for $$$$.
Sweetheart where doe the money go???????? Be specific, and name your sources. Thanks
we know where, let’s see if you know. which I doubt.
Sweetheart I asked you to be specific and name your sources and what did you do????? Embarrass yourself!!!!!!! You “simpel-folk” just make up anything you want, don’t you????? So do you have evidence or not????????
I truly think your “simpel-folk” comments would embarrass you, if you had a brain. Obviously, they don’t. So…
Sweetheart are you home-schooled?????
Terms such as ‘sweetheart’,’Simpel-folk’ ( your spelling not mine) multiple exclamation points, reveal a reflect directly the individual using them and they let everyone know that there is no need to read any further, saving time. Thanks.
Well said.
Sweetheart, I’m sorry you don’t like me, but the truth hurts doesn’t it??????? Watch my show and I’ll really piss you off!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3g8fd9D7ZI
Doe, a deer, a female deer. What does that have to do with the conversation?
Trolls are stupid, mythical creatures. Don’t expect them to have much in the way of command of spelling…or math…let alone science for that matter.
At least she spelled “doe” correctly. I just don’t get the significance of deer on the subject. Guess I am not right bright.
Its too complicated for you to understand…Continue to believe in the lie, if you want to!
If you go back and check vacuousman’s posts, you’ll see he almost never provides any facts of his own, just constantly insists others provide proof.
A typical liberal posting trick…they want you to do all the homework and research and if its contrary to their sick ideology…they apply their famous 3-D’s: Deny, Dismiss, Degrade! I usually tell them to pound sand! 😉
Sweetheart I love making fun of you “simpel-folk” who don’t understand science. Are you busy??????
the only one richard who doesn’t understand science is you.
Sweetheart Al GORE understands scienceand he explained it quite clearly. AL GORE said storms would be getting stronger and more frequent, and boy did he get it right!!!!!!! 6 of the biggest snowstorms have happened in this century!!!! Talk about being a physhic AL GORE is amazing isn’t he?????????
You can’t honestly be this stupid. Methinks you are a troll put here to make the pro-AGW people look even stupider than we already know you to be. If so, mission accomplished!
Sweetheart I’m not a troll, I’m a BITCH-SLAPPER!!!!! I love knocking the snot out of you “simpel-folk” who don’t understand science. Are you busy??????? You need to watch my show so you don’t get BATTA-BINGED!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3g8fd9D7ZI
Where are all the hurricanes?
Sweetheart AL GORE was right!!!!!!!!! Were having a snow-a-cane right now!!!!! What are you missing?????
Your total sarcasm! That was GREAT! You are the funniest poster here!
Sweetheart the truth hurts doesn’t it???????? Did you watch my show yet??????? It’s called who’s telling the truth. I love BITCH-SLAPPING the “simpel-folk”, need some??????
He sure is! Especially when he said the temperature of Earth’s core is measured in millions of degrees!
And I love making fun of you pure idiots who assume I’m not a scientist or that I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Or you idiots who don’t understand that it is impossible to glean any relevant trend by looking at 0.001% of the MOST RECENT temperature data on a 4 billion year old earth. Go to any website that deals in probability/statistic studies and look up the terms “sample size” or “relevant distribution”… if you can comprehend the concepts, then come back and let’s debate.
Or you idiots who think that AGW is “settled science” when the earth’s climate is influenced by thousands of independent variables, the vast majority of which haven’t even been discovered yet, and most of which have to do with that big yellow ball in the sky that’s 93 million miles away from any influence that Man can impart.
By the way, if you’re going to attempt to mock me, you might want to learn how to spell the word “simple”.
Still up for that debate? I’ve got all day, douche-puddle.
Sweetheart I won’t mock you, you’ve done a beautiful job of BITCH-SLAPPING yourself. Thank you. Are you home-schooled???????
You’re doing an awesome job of refuting logic and science with ad hominem. Typical liberal troll. I’d dislike you if I didn’t pity you.
Sweetheart, I deal with facts, figures, logic, and reason something you “simpel-folk” aren’t allowed to do. You can only repeat what fox news and Rush tells you. You LOSE !!!!! SORRY!!!!!!!!
Go back and check his posts, or click on his name. This is all he really does. I’m beginning to suspect an AI bot. (artificial idiocy)
Your nasty rhetoric and ignorant approach to rational argument is A BIG TURN OFF. I can’t imagine an intelligent person writing something like you so I dismiss anything you might say as coming from an uneducated person.
Golly. My loss.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/19/dear-snow-trolls-winter-weather-does-not-refute-global-warming/
WP’s Wonkblog – ah now there’s a credible source of info. But, let’s go with it…
Headline: “Dear snow-trolls: Winter weather does not refute global warming”
Counter-point: Perhaps, but what proves it? Nothing so far has done so successfully. Climate models have been blown up for the past 15+ years. Disappearing ice caps? Nope. Rising sea levels? Nope. Whole islands disappearing??? Still no.
Bottom line: You cannot draw any firm conclusions by looking at 400,000 years worth of very loosely inferred data, especially when there is so much non-correlation in the past few years that invalidates all predictions.
Please, learn to UNDERSTAND what you read, not just feel emotional about it because you see pictures of dying polar bears.
Interesting how you pander to the ignorant and attack people trying to just have an intelligent discussion. Clearly there is more evidence at this time to support global warming. You may want to argue the point which is fine, but why take such a low life ignorant approach in doing so? You must have issues with self worth or lack education. There is no reason to attack people on this issue.
Make a rational argument, and I’ll respond with the same. Come at me calling me derisive names, and I’ll probably respond in kind as well.
If you read the whole post, you’ll see it makes two very sound, rational arguments regarding climate change. One having to do with its flawed treatment of statistical data and the derived weakness in the follow-on correlations. The other having to do with the vast number of unknown factors that have already wrecked havoc with all the climate predictions for the past 20 or so years (basically the entire lifetime of the idea of Global Warming / Climate Change / Climate Disruption / -insert latest euphemism here-).
I want you to understand that I DO think that the *Theory* of climate change is a reasonable one, but it is just that – a theory. It has not been proven by any reasonable standard of “proof”, and there’s just as much evidence to refute it as there is to support it.
Now, if you’d like to refute any of MY arguments, please do so. You have my attention. Dazzle me.
I thought abortion was the Eugenics of both the 20th and 21st centuries. Sanger hated minorities, and her product has been even more successful at murder than others of the race she hated. That’s pretty noteworthy.
Blacks working furiously to even the score.
Last year, it was the “Polar Vortex!” This year, I expect we’ll hear something like the “Arctic Zephyr!” Or, maybe, the “Hudson Bay Humdinger!”
Or unicorn farts? Lots of methane there!
Next Up = Climate Chaos! Must scare the masses with this drivel some more.
They’ve already used that one only via: Climate Disruption…
Don’t forget “Climate Justice”! It’s beyond moronic, yet the they keep pushing the hoax.
rong
This way no matter what happens, they can blame it on warming. What’s the excuses now, oceans sucking up the heat, volcanoes, el Nino?? It’s OK though their gig is up. Americans do not believe the hoax anymore.
They’ll blame it on polar bear farts next.
Sounds like a death match between climate change and Darwin. If those polar bears don’t quickly evolve into a non-farting variant, they are doomed! 🙂
Cow farts
Global warming (peace be upon it) shall never die!
The dumb teathuglicans don’t realize that this isn’t snow. It’s volcanic ash from the burning Mother Earth (whose name is Gaia). The ash only feels cold because they are shallow heartless GOP stooges and also because the volcanic ash has blocked out the Sun like in the time of the dinosaurs. We’re burning alive, Al… We’re burning alive.
So how come 60% of all-time record high temperatures by state all occurred before global warming alarm? And only one new all time record high temperature since the few set in the 1990s?
Has your sense of humor been surgcally removed?
And your point is? Nothing – stop BREATHING CO2 and save the earth!
Your brains went with your sense of humor it seems.
You must have also read that article blaming bad climate models on unforeseen, unpredictable volcanic activity. Very nice!
Your sarcasm is utterly brilliant! Please, don’t stop with that! You gotta give more! I am crying from laughter here!
It worked…they cooled the planet. Hope they can live with their success.
I disagree, al made 100’s of millions, salindra made 1/2 billion, solar panel industry is still cleaning up and windmills ….
What has failed? The policies, the fear mongering go on unabated. The UK is moving to end fracking based on non-factual bs. Our President, fully supported by basically every media outlet, is moving forward full speed with anti-energy idicy. We need to wake up and smell the coffee: The climate kooks are in charge and they are not going to quit just because they are wrong.
Sweetheart you need to keep up. I’ts obvious you don’t understand science. The koch brothers will be proud of you. They love you “simpel-folk” Thanks
Shouldn’t you be off interviewing an inanimate object? I’m 38% sure teddy bears you interview are smarter than you. Hey, Richard why the name change?
Sweetheart, how are you. Are you still a denier??????? Have you been keeping up with the show?????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3g8fd9D7ZI
poor richard. next thing you know you’ll be telling me 2014 was the hottest on record. LOL “show”, so are you Wayne or Garth?
Sweetheart so you realize 2014 was the hottest year on record?????? WTF????? You keep talking like that and the koch brothers are gonna kick you off their christmas card list.
Any “show” that has Elizabeth Warren, the “Native American”, on the cover is discredited before it begins…
It may not be so on our East Coast, but that’s what 10,000 monitoring stations Earth wide are telling us. While US’s Northeast has had brutal winters lately, Northern Canada and the Arctic, which should be much colder, have instead, been much warmer. Go figure!
Are you 38% sure?
Global warming would lead to much, much higher snow levels as warmer air holds more moisture.
Maybe that’s why many high altitude and high latitude areas – which, despite any warming (if there is any) are still too cold to have anything but snow – are receiving MORE snow, while their flanks, at a much lower altitude, are rapidly melting.
Dude it’s like January and February, you know, like winter time, dude.
PROOF – Global Warming !
The New York Times had an article in February, 2014 titled “The end of Snow.’ The article documented how snow soon was going to be a distant memory and our kids would never see it except in news reels. Doesn’t the Times ever get embarrassed about never being right about anything?
The Times will be gone long before snow.
Not a chance. The owners are some of wealthiest individuals in the World. They want the propaganda outlet that the NYT provides.
A Mexican, Carlos Slim is now the majority owner and the family who used to own the N.Y. Slimes are wealthy, but NOT all THAT wealthy anymore. And Pinch Sulzberger ran the Slimes into the ground; losing money hand over fist by turning the Old Gray lady into a losing proposition with his idiocy.
Do try to keep up, prior to posting !
Compared to you the are wealthy individuals… You know one thing and act like an azz about it! Please do tell us the rest oh great Oracle!
AL GORE AND ALL OF HIS CLIMATE CHANGE FRAUDSTERS SHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN PRISON RIGHT NEXT TO BERNIE MADOFF. THEY ARE FRAUDS, LIARS AND THIEVES AND EVEN WORSE-ARE VILE HYPOCRITES.
your ignorance is your bliss, but the collective ignorance of people like you will eventually be our collective downfall.
“skeptical” lemmings know where to find the herd — cliatedepot.
– said Chicken Little.
the earth is on a path of unusual warming due to human activities.
and you go running… pathetic.
What’s causing the unusual warming on Mars? SUVs?
a dedication to absolute ignorance is no asset.
yet you persist.
You don’t know, so you just make attacks. The “scientific models” predict much more warming than scientifically observed, but you refuse to question them.
I’m tired of politicians running around saying the sky is falling “if we don’t act now” about everything. And I’m tired of religious acolytes professing their faith because “science.”
Actually, I do know. I have done the research (many times over). I have seen the well-funded misinformation overcome lesser minded people like yourself, who are now so sure they are being duped. Do you have a clue about scientific confidence and how it’s calculated? The irony of course, is that you see scientists doing their job as proof that they are in it for the money. This same logic applies to most higher level professions, but how often do you hear your doctor’s diagnosis of _____ and say, huh, he must just be saying that because he’s paid to? not often? right. It’s amazing how deluded the denialists have become, but hey backed by enough $$$, anything will be bought by ignorant idiots.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/opinion/sunday/playing-dumb-on-climate-change.html?_r=0
I have questioned all the evidence so many times i can’t count them anymore, and everytime the real scientists with credentials come out on top. When a sane person looks at the deluded pseudoscience claims, like the fraud that is the climategate emails (scientists exonerated repeatedly), and other obvious examples of lies and fallacies pushed by pseudo-scientist like those you find on cliamtedepot, WUWT, and others, it should quickly become clear how loose the deniers evidence is. not accurate, not peer reviewed, but yes paid-for by big oil in particular.
Your misplaced confidence is reassured by the conspiracy theorists, who have no credibility. Time to look again, brute.
I can tell by the way you write that you’re not a scientist, you’re not an engineer, and you’re probably not employed in a technical field, except maybe one involving computers.
You sound incredibly upset because I don’t believe 100% in a scientific theory who’s predictive models (or at least 98% of them) have been wrong for over 15 years. Likewise, that theory can’t explain why it’s not just the sun causing the arming, as it had been going through a rather warm period in the last half of the 1900s. Note that this would, of course explain the warming on Mars. Hell, even the guys pushing the theory admit there’s something wrong with the models. Yet you run around claiming we must do something and do something now, instead of waiting for the science to become more solid.
Which do you believe, scientific models, or scientific observations? When they disagree which do you, personally, believe?
I’ll stick with scientific observations any day of the week.
yet you ignore the observations you don’t like. the ocean has been warming dramatically — we know this, it’s OBSERVED.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ocean+warming
I’m sure you’d get lost among the misinformation, so here’s one you can directly visit:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Ocean-Warming-has-been-Greatly-Underestimated.html
why do you prefer to remain ignorant of the evidence? if you care enough to argue the point, why don’t you actually pay attention to the valid evidence?
Denial aint just a river in Egypt, SON!!
None of this addresses my points.
The models are wrong. They’re not a religion, they’re just models.
hmmm, you refuse to look at them… hmm, wonder why.
Here’s where you say, “I”m not a scientist” lol, what a foolish comment!!
So you’re admitting that the global warming models are/were wrong? And the new theory is the oceans are warming. Got it.
No, the oceans are not warming dramatically. You cannot find any observational evidence to prove they are. You are simply repeating bs that you have decided must be true. What I do find fascinating is that when an alarmist prediction, like increased hurricanes for instance, fails, the true belivers just go onto the next prediction, like polar bears in trouble or the end of Arctic sea ice by 2014 as if nothing happened.
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/a-fresh-look-at-the-watery-side-of-earths-climate-shows-unabated-planetary-warming/?_r=0
“This is not even close to a new finding”
there is measurably less ice, and thinner ice, though you can pretend that polar bears don’t use ice as part of their habitat.
you pick and choose words from a complex explanation and think you’ve disproven something — only that your approach to evidence and credibility is extremely juvenile. I hope they pay you well to maintain your ignorance.
Tapasap,
You are a sap that seems to self tap.
Picking and choosing, like splicing proxy records together to hide declines and using hogenization to cool the past. Or pretending that slr is diong anything different than it has done since the measured record has been kept. Or claiaming that every weather event is proof of a catastrophe. Nothing can be more entertaining than to watch a superstitious sap see the boogey man under every rock and behind every tree.
But a self-tapping sap can be wound up and depended on to be dependably stoopid.
HUNTERSON: “No, the oceans are not warming dramatically. You cannot find any observational evidence to prove they are. ”
Tapasap: “http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/a-fresh-look-at-the-watery-side-of-earths-climate-shows-unabated-planetary-warming/?_r=0 ‘This is not even close to a new finding'”
BUDDY, IT’S ALL RIGHT HERE FOR YOU. YOU ARE SIMPLY WRONG AND CAN’T EVEN PAY CLOSE ENOUGH ATTENTION TO SPELL CORRECTLY, LET ALONE COMPREHEND COMPLEX PROCESSES.
I PITY YOU AS YOU ARE EITHER NEVER EDUCATED, OR A PAID TROLL. NEITHER IS WORTH MY TIME.
tapsap,
I offer you quotes of the failed predictions and you come back with more alarmist hype.
Good luck. Keep chanting your mantra of faith. I will stick with the real world, where when predictions fail you toss out the theory. You stick with dogma.
Ciao,
Read up on arctic ice extent sometime.
Or are you just going to ignore the satellite observations?
one might consider supporting their words with, dunno, evidence?
feel free to show which flawed “observations” you’re clinging to in order to disprove the basic truths of today’s changing climate.
happy friday!
Geez, it’s a religion with you, isn’t it?
If you’re curious you can look this stuff up. Why would I care if you’re ignoring observations?
Your “side” is wrong. As time passes and more and wild predictions prove false and the actual warming is no longer considered a threat, your credibility will wane and the rest of humanity can move on.
from your response, i’ve learned:
1. you don’t the difference between faith and evidence-backed conclusions.
2. Me and my assertions are more credible than you are.
neither revelation is a surprise.
Time will tell, won’t it buddy?
Today the observations are disagreeing with the models. As that continues it will be harder and harder to justify such blind faith.
your hermetically sealed bubble is the only place where denial is the prevailing belief.
and yes, the bubble will pop, and future generations will blame you and yours.
sleep well, friend.
And then the sky falls, right Chicken Little?
Check the official thermometers at the airports and see if some are in areas where they can be warmed by jet exhaust when the wind is “just-so.” (I’ll save you the trouble. The answer is “Yes.”)
Check the official thermometers atop municipal buildings and see if some are in areas where they can be warmed by air conditioner condensers when the wind is “just-so.” (I’ll save you the trouble. That answer is “Yes,” too.)
You claim to have checked and rechecked the data, but it the data is poo, don’t treat it as if it were pudding.
Are you basing this on the 100 years of climate data collected on Mars as it has been here on Earth that clearly shows a pattern of warming in the past 20 years, 13 of the hottest years in history coming in the last 15 years?
Oh wait, there isnt 100 years of Mars climate data to compare as there is here…
Does it hurt to be as ignorant as you clearly are or do you get used to being a dimwit over time?
you are an idiot.
haha, nice edit fix.
you honor me with your words.
Lose your mittens and you’ll freeze your fingers. It’s cold out there and your calculator has a dead battery.
Every few months, when climate change deniers decide they’ve come up with an all-new reason to convince themselves that global warming is all a big hoax, we like to take a look at whatever the latest scam is that they are propagating, either because they are part of the effort to help out the fossil-fuel industry, or simply because they enjoy being their brainwashed and/or incurious little tools.
Back in 2013 these stooges were promoting the phony notion that “Arctic ice has grown to a record level!” It hadn’t. After that debacle, they claimed UN scientists had found their predictions of warming were off by 50 percent or more. They weren’t. More recently, they were pushing the false claim that the globe has been cooling ever since 1998. It hasn’t been. And, of course, when all else failed, they could always fall back on their old standby: weaning ourselves from dangerous fossil fuels won’t make any difference anyway because China would never do the same. But, of course, China is now doing so at a rate that should embarrass these jackasses. But it won’t. Because they are never embarrassed about being wrong.
So, with 2014 recently clocking in as the hottest year for the planet on record, according to every major world agency that measures such things, and with 13 of the hottest years on record all falling within the past 15 years, these clowns are getting pretty desperate for something — anything — to use to keep the denialist scam going on behalf of the most profitable industry in the history of civilization.
The latest such scam, helpfully propagated on several Fox “News” shows last week, is that the so-called “scientists” have been caught red-handed in the act of “lying” about raw temperature data! That’s right! They have been manipulating the data to exaggerate the extent of global warming!
Except, of course, they haven’t, and they aren’t…
That’s what memory holes are for, Comrade.
No, the NYT does not get embarrassed about being consistently wrong.
Being a hate America liberal proaganda business, being wrong is actually a plus for them. The left hates the truth and facts. It confuses them and that ,makes them mad.
“The left hates the truth and facts.”….then why is it that conservatives can’t produce more than 2 peer-reviewed articles that support their claim about it being bogus out of more than 10,000 published in the last few years that support the notion its real and man-made?
If you were honest, then you would acknowledge that there are thousands of scientists who do not agree with the IPCC idiots, who’s climate models have be consistently wrong. But stick with your lies, you wouldn’t want to have too dramatic a change in your life.
See above
Read em and weep…. http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
and http://testclimate.wpengine.com/2015/01/26/meteorologist-2010s-officially-the-snowiest-decade-in-the-east-coast-in-the-noaa-record-surpassing-the-1960s/
If you are honest enough to investigate alternatives, then I recommend Dark Winter. Oh, if not, fine, you will only reinforce what I stated.
The data have been abused by the Warmer community, for the most part to prove their case and get continued funding.
None of the IPCC computer models has been right, NONE. They base their predictions on faulty and incorrect models, and you still support them? I hope that isn’t a real Cobra you are flying, you might be a few cards short of a full deck.
You must stop presenting factual information. The trolls will go nuts (except they won’t believe what goes against their religion).
You mean like the fact all the following organizations disagree with you?
NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS):http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/g…
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA):http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/cl…
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC):http://www.grida.no/climate/ip…
National Academy of Sciences (NAS):http://books.nap.edu/collectio…
State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC) –http://www.socc.ca/permafrost/…
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA):http://epa.gov/climatechange/i…
The Royal Society of the UK (RS) – http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page…
American Geophysical Union (AGU):http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/pol…
American Meteorological Society (AMS):http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/…
American Institute of Physics (AIP): http://www.aip.org/gov/policy1…
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR):http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1…
American Meteorological Society (AMS):http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/…
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS):http://www.cmos.ca/climatechan…
Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academie des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
But if scientists are too liberal and politicians too unreliable, perhaps you find the opinion of key industry representatives more convincing:
BP, the largest oil company in the UK and one of the largest in the world, hasthis opinion:
There is an increasing consensus that climate change is linked to the consumption of carbon based fuels and that action is required now to avoid further increases in carbon emissions as the global demand for energy increases.
Shell Oil (yes, as in oil, the fossil fuel) says:
Shell shares the widespread concern that the emission of greenhouse gases from human activities is leading to changes in the global climate.
Eighteen CEOs of Canada’s largest corporations had this to say in an open letter to the Prime Minister of Canada:
Our organizations accept that a strong response is required to the strengthening evidence in the scientific assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). We accept the IPCC consensus that climate change raises the risk of severe consequences for human health and security and the environment. We note that Canada is particularly vulnerable to the impacts of climate change.
Have the environazis seized the reigns of industrial power, in addition to infiltrating the U.N., the science academies of every developed nation, and the top research institutes of North America? That just doesn’t seem very likely.
Your BS would bear some weight if even one of those orgs didn’t PROFIT from their lies.
And, being smart, they will hop on the government run “alternative” bandwagon while continuing to hold and supply oil.
The Green Blob Unveiled, US Billionaires Purchased Policy: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/26/The-Green-Blob-Unveiled-How-UK-Energy-Policy-is-Bought-With-American-Billionaires-Cash
Clean Energy’s Dirty Secrets: http://www.nationalreview.com/energy-week/388619/clean-energys-dirty-secrets-rupert-darwall
“EPA administrator Gina McCarthy admitted it was not about pollution control. “It’s about investments in renewables and clean energy,” she told the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works in July. “This is an investment strategy.”
Best Anti Fracking Study Money Can Buy or, Science for Sale: http://capitolcityproject.com/meet-group-quietly-propelling-anti-fracking-movement/
Howarth received $35,000 to conduct the study — which was fundedby the Park Foundation. Howarth himself said that the money did not change the way the study was performed, but also acknowledged he was approached by the Park Foundation and agreed to produce a study going against the notion that shale gas extraction was clean.
But of course, we should trust pathological liars and snake oil salesmen, they care deeply for us so we should just shut up and pay up.
your doctor profits from your sickness.
you can be sure (SURE!!) your doctor caused your sickness.
And your lawyer, definitely profiting from your legal issues. you were setup.
the world is out to get you, fool!!
The real problem is they don’t come to their conclusions by scientific methods. Part of science is repeatable results and these studies aren’t correct in their predictions so something is wrong with their computer models. Real scientist admit the error and goes back to change some factors to create a more accurate prediction. Too many groups go back and fudge data to try and make it fit. This debate causes climate warming groups to dig their heels ignoring the errors in prediction so we don’t get accurate information from them.
Some might, scales fall from everyone’s eyes sooner or later. Take the $50,000 per citizen price tag for Obamacare. Sure sounds like I’m not going to save any money on it! 🙁
I am being totally punished by that travesty! Triple deductibles, double rates. Lost my doctor…
And it’s free!:-)
Sweetheart now you making up stuff about obamacare?????? WTF?????? Sources??????
Uh, sorry those are the GAO’s figures, not mine.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2927348/Obamacare-program-costs-50-000-American-gets-health-insurance-says-bombshell-budget-report.html
My source is my healthcare policy with HealthPlus of Michigan and it was the best of the 4 I could choose from, sweety
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2927348/Obamacare-program-costs-50-000-American-gets-health-insurance-says-bombshell-budget-report.html
“scales fall from everyone’s eyes sooner or later”
No, they don’t. Often, they turn into coins to keep the dead lids closed. We need to get there soon and if the warmies keep up the chicken little BS we should start frying them as treats for alligators in their own oil.
No, at some point, probably in the next 30 years when the temps haven’t changed significantly at all.
Such confident words from a uniquely clueless individual. Feel free to post from where you dredged your misinformation. It would be a pleasure to clean-up your drivel in the name of basic evidence and facts.
The facts you speak of speak for themselves. Where is all the warming?
Temperatures have been higher in the past, and for 18 years no warming! Oh, that is the fly in the ointment now isn’t it?
4 billion years of climate, and you and your idiot priest predict doom and gloom from a 20 year window. One of us is clueless, and not very thoughtful as well, but it isn’t me.
troeeee!! pay attention, we’ve been over this:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/how-do-we-know-that-recent-cosub2sub-increases-are-due-to-human-activities-updated/
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/09/what-ocean-heating-reveals-about-global-warming/
Quoting a site that is ignoring the evidence, which “realclimte” is doing, does not make you look bright.
please, present the evidence that you choose to believe!!
I think you are highly resistant to evidence yo udon’t like. In the days when science worked one would have to offer evidence of the extraordinary claim that the earth is undergoig a climate crisis.
Now that religious kooks have hijacked science the only thing needed is the fervor of faith.
you realize how pathetic your reply is?
you can’t even present what you DO believe, only sure that 97+% of credible scientists are wrong. oooh, don’t like that #? then PROVE IT”S WRONG!!
science is not religion, and if you’re still stuck on that issue, you have a long way to go before you start to grasp climate models and the change we’re facing.
it’s complikated!!
Anyone who believes the 97% scam is already stuck on stupid.
Science is not relgion. And you are not a scientist.
hahaha!! but you are a foolish tro//.
believe in belief!! gotta be true!!
Not trolling, just bored by predictable true believers strutting around in their ignorance. If you actually want to have a conversation, great. Read a few of the failed predictions of climate doom:
http://climatechangepredictions.org/category/doomsday
and let’s see if my guess about your thought resistant armor is true.
man you reach deep into the bowels of the internet to find such garbage.
ah, look ma, a wordpress site with quotes! do they link anywhere, provide any context, or are they meaningful in anyway? NO? NO! unless you’re a climate change denier, in which case, you see gold in dem piles of mierda!!
that you link to that site is enough to tell me how credible you are.
but you’re paid/post, right? so go gettem $$$$$$!!!!
lol. You are no different in your defense than a bible thumper defending his rapture and “Left Behind” fantasy..
Thanks for playing.
Still evidence free!!!
have faith!
Still evidence free!!!
have faith!
tapasap,
You will simply continue to reject the evidence. I offer you quotes of failed predictions and you just dismiss them. I point out that storms, slr, pH, sea ice, polar bears are all doing fine. You reject that. I have no faith in this matter. I reject yours and it seems to drive you crazy. But it is apparently a short drive for you.
Quoting your guys is reaching deep? lol. Think before you type, tapasap.
don’t like that #? then PROVE IT”S WRONG!!
The falseness of the 97% claim was well established awhile back.
Your spittle flecked replies remind me of frustrated bible thumpers who dislike hearing about evolution.
I still have not been able to locate the study that provides the empirical evidence that global warming is caused by human beings via CO2. I have found a large amount of papers and opinions pieces that include computer model predictions that support the theory of man made warming. These peer reviewed papers have plenty of statistics in regard to temperature and what not, but where is the evidence of cause and effect?
I am hoping you can provide me with the information that I am seeking. Again, I am referring to empirical data or evidence that shows the direct link of the globe warming due to human beings via CO2.
My main issue with the globe warming due to human beings and CO2 is some simple logic.
1. There are more humans populating the planet at the present time then ever before. This means there are more humans exhaling CO2 into the atmosphere than ever before.
2. There are more industrial type machinery as well as things such as cars and planes than ever before. This also means there are more entities producing CO2 than ever before.
3. The number one consumer of CO2 are trees and plant life. Due to human consumption and deforestation there are less tree/plant life present on earth than at any other time in mans existence.
So we have the two largest contributors to CO2 production at peak levels and the largest consumer of CO2 at its lowest level. Why are we not seeing the temperature rise higher and higher in a accelerated manner? Instead papers are issued that lay claim to the warmest yr or warmest decade having just occurred, with the difference in temp from a previous high being a hundredth of a decimal point.
PROVE THE CO2 is from burning fossil fuels:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/how-do-we-know-that-recent-cosub2sub-increases-are-due-to-human-activities-updated/
Why isn’t the [air] temperature exponentially increasing like the co2 concentrations:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/09/what-ocean-heating-reveals-about-global-warming/
are you able to comprehend the issues discussed at the links?
if not, do more research then come back and try again.
I asked for empirical evidence that shows human created CO2 is a direct cause of global temperature increase. Your first link was not needed since I i stated in my comment that CO2 comes from fossil fuels.
Now, if you take the second link to be empirical data that shows a direct casual relationship of human CO2 and temp increase then you may need more than a simple increase in your comprehension abilities. Do you have any idea of the size, variations, movements of currents, and the overall lack of knowledge man has of the oceans? Why weren’t these climate scholars alerting us to this phenomen during the rapid increase in temp in the late 20th century? Was the ocean on a absorption hiatus then? I seem to recall hockey sticks and other computer graphs predicting immenint doom that showed temperature increasing up up up. That turned out to be wrong. Wait, it wasn’t wrong, just listen to this ocean idea, ok? So to be clear, the warmers have moved on from sun spots, solar activity, strastpheric water vapor, pine aerosols, coincidence, pacific trade winds, etc and have definetly decided on the theory from the second link you posted?
ah, the fool who refuses to understand answers to his own foolish questions… has more questions!!
and is still a fool.
Since you can’t learn (and actively choose ignorance over long-proven ideas), there’s no point in trying to point you in the direction of reality.
That’s a good way to get around displaying empirical data to support your claim. Say you gave the evenidence and sling insults.
When using this response technique in the future I reccomend you rethink the “long proven” claim. It was only 40 or so years ago that we had a cover story in Time magazine where we were told to fear the impending doom global cooling was going to bring. The overwhelming majority of scientist surveyed back even said so. Hahaha
Yeah, NO, you ignore the actual scientific opinions of the 1970’s with that comment:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s-intermediate.htm
of course, deniers always do prefer media oversimplicity to actual data from complex studies.
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/
Don’t let the actual documents and studies get in the way of comments made 30 yrs later to make sure the hoax goes on at all cost. Now who is taking their direction from media blurbs?
I still have not been able to locate the study that provides the empirical evidence that global warming is caused by human beings via CO2. I have found a large amount of papers and opinions pieces that include computer model predictions that support the theory of man made warming. These peer reviewed papers have plenty of statistics in regard to temperature and what not, but where is the evidence of cause and effect?
I am hoping you can provide me with the information that I am seeking. Again, I am referring to empirical data or evidence that shows the direct link of the globe warming due to human beings via CO2.
My main issue with the globe warming due to human beings and CO2 is some simple logic.
1. There are more humans populating the planet at the present time then ever before. This means there are more humans exhaling CO2 into the atmosphere than ever before.
2. There are more industrial type machinery as well as things such as cars and planes than ever before. This also means there are more entities producing CO2 than ever before.
3. The number one consumer of CO2 are trees and plant life. Due to human consumption and deforestation there are less tree/plant life present on earth than at any other time in mans existence.
So we have the two largest contributors to CO2 production at peak levels and the largest consumer of CO2 at its lowest level. Why are we not seeing the temperature rise higher and higher in a accelerated manner? Instead papers are issued that lay claim to the warmest yr or warmest decade having just occurred, with the difference in temp from a previous high being a hundredth of a decimal point.
Jerry, those papers are primarily from the IPCC. They are not Science, no matter how many peers reviewed them. The whole mess involves taking historical data, questionable at best, with newer ground stations taking temps. Some of the ground stations are in areas where their accuracy has been called. It is all smoke and mirrors, since we are talking less than 2 degrees at any rate. Don’t waste your time, it is the IPCC and Al Gore, and Government trying to get more money from you as a Carbon Tax. Liars, cheats, and thieves, that’s what we are dealing with.
That wasn’t meant for you, I apologize. It was meant for one of the commenters who are sure the human breathing cycle is heating the planet. My tone was an attempt at disarming them so they wouldn’t fly off the handle. It may have given us the opportunity to listen to them twist themselves into pretzels explaining how even without empirical data/evidence it’s still a fact . I am very well aware that the entire subject is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on man. There are zero studies with empirical data/evidence that show CO2 causes global warming nor are there papers with proof of a direct cause and effect relationship btw the human breathing cycle and global warming. Its nothing more than communists dyeing their red shirts green.
Obamacare program costs $50,000 in taxpayer money for every American who gets health insurance, says bombshell budget report
Stunning figure comes from Congressional Budget Office report that revised cost estimates for the next 10 years
Government will spend $1.993 TRILLION over a decade and take in $643 BILLION in new taxes, penalties and fees related to Obamacare
The $1.35 trillion net cost will result in ‘between 24 million and 27 million’ fewer Americans being uninsured – a $50,000 price tag per person at best
The law will still leave ‘between 29 million and 31 million’ nonelderly Americans without medical insurance
Numbers assume Obamacare insurance exchange enrollment will double between now and 2025
Yes, but if you like your Doctor, you can keep…..Ug, I guess not! 🙂
I see bigot, religious people are all nuts? and The book of trolls chapter 7 speaks about Global warming in depth, it comes between the book of Gore and the book of Ehrlich
Link to your source please
It’s a book…. “Dark Winter”, by John L. Casey, NASA Scientist.
Read it if you are interested in both sides of the conversation. Available as an ebook on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc.
You might keep in mind that once Plate Tectonics was considered rubbish by greater than 90% of Geologists, and those who denied it were all wrong.
I’ll read it, thanks
Keep in mind at one time Earth was the center of the Universe and “deniers” were persecuted.
I know my history, I gave an example from a period after the dark ages and Church strong arming science.
the earth was flat and we had a new ice age in the 70’s , and the population bomb of the 70′;s , and then of course Guam will tip over with too many in the military there. .
the evidence for plate tectonics was overwhelming, as is the evidence for anthropogenic climate change.
a refusal to address evidence is only proof that you’re pathological, it does nothing for scientific inquiry.
You don’t know much evidently, plate tectonics wasn’t readily accepted, taking years and years to be accepted as fact.
Then when it was accepted, they had irrefutable evidence to support their theory.
There is no evidence which hasn’t been massaged, or downright cherry picked in support of global warming. As a matter of fact, the whole global warming nonsense began from a Science Fiction Novels, plot!
Believe what you will, you will be surprised when cooling begins.
empty words from an empty head. you don’t have evidence on your side, yet the entire world has evidence showing you’re wrong.
And you rely on the likes of Monckton et al to support your side? your POV is an embarrassment because it’s not supported by anything other than angry superstition. You conflate your politics with science — a grave error that hopefully future generations will forgive.
I’m not so sure they will — in the age of information, you cling to misinformation to support your ignorance. Shameful.
Well, I am happy in my ignorance, but you might want to read the Skeptical Environmentalist, and Dark Winter. I get the biggest kick out of pathetic humans like you. Someone spoon fed you a lie, and you just have to believe it. How many secret emails have to be leaked by the GW community in order for you to smell a rat? How many times will you blindly allow the IPCC to guide your life when they have been wrong time and again? An old saying, totally appropriate to you and those like you is “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. Are you aware that the UN wants you to buy into their scam, so that they might tax you and take the money to other countries under the guise of humanitarian aid? Are you aware that they would love a world government that they control with our Constitution set by the wayside? Are you unaware that the main supporters in the political world are making a killing on fallacious Green energy projects? What does it take to wake you up, are you really this stupid?
The schooling you received has obviously done it’s job. You and those like you need a noble cause because you have shallow, petty little lives, and cannot abide not belonging to some larger group. No brains, no spine, and no ability to think and observe what is surrounding you on a daily basis. Pathetic really, I feel sorry that you and so many others are incapable of thinking independently. I feels sorry you are so easily led, I’ll bet you supported Obamacare too! Just as we get the government we deserve, we get it due to the likes of you and yours.
Yes, you are happy in your ignorance.
and you dwell in evidence-free conspiracy theories. I’ll pass on that approach, thanks.
I prefer to read all i can about the subject, with a skeptical eye. the most obviously wrong claims so far are from people like you, climategate emails, etc. anyone with a single good eye or half a good ear can discern who is full of BS.
you.
Conspiracy theories…there is nothing theoretical about either of the items id mentioned. Deluded is what you are.
Sweetheart once again!!!!!! Show us your sources so I can make fun of you and embarrasss you in front of your friends. Thanks!!!!!!
key word being NONE
Sweetheart don’t you have any respect for yourself??????? Why would you post anything from Anthony Watts?????? Are you home-schooled??????
Which Alinsky rule is sappy, dripping, condescension covered by? Bless your heart, Sweetheart, limited though you are, try to Google it.
OOPPS I owe you an apology. I misunderstood you sorry!!!!!!!!
Sweetheart you claimed the models are wrong, didn’t you?????? Can you please show us the models you’re talking about???????? Remember be specific and name your sources. Thanks
NASA 95% of models wrong: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/11/report-95-percent-of-global-warming-models-are-wrong/
10/19/2013 Obama Admin. to Spend $18 Million on New Climate Models: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/feds-will-spend-18m-develop-reliable-climate-change-predictions
Warming at 0 and German Climate Scientist Can’t Explain it. “Storch: If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models. A 20-year pause in global warming does not occur in a single modeled scenario. But even today, we are finding it very difficult to reconcile actual temperature trends with our expectations. – See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/global-warming-temperature-very-close-zero-over-15-years#sthash.KEdzpvZC.dpuf
o boy new climate modelers…programmers…shhh…no comments this time….shhh
When someone asks for sources they usually end up trashing your sources. Useless debating a warmer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/. Most people thought the earth was flat, that blacks were genetically inferior and 52% voted for Obama in this country, and in the 70’s we were in the beginning of the new ice age, None of that proves anything, http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html. It is not possible, nor worth anyones time to disprove someone’s feelings.
Someday some very cold people will be saying some people thought there would never be another ice age.
Are you saying the models are accurate?
Show me a model – any model for any complex phenomenon – that has ever been “right”. If you know what “wrong” is, then you’ll certainly be able to point out what’s “right”. I await your reply.
There are many, but since you ask we have continuously made our Nuke weapons cleaner and more potent without increasing weight. Computer models did this…
Every Space Shot has simulations done for many contingencies, they have been proven accurate.
You should be able to find this information out yourself, but like so many, you are emotionally invested in “your” belief system. Belief systems need to be challenged, not just accepted as correct, that is the way a child acts.
Yes, computer models have simulated nuclear explosions. And they have guided us to the moon. But they are not “right”, any more than weather models or climate models are “right”. You haven’t shown me a model that is “right”. No model is ever “right”. They only give approximations. What is “child”-ish is the notion that we can generate exactly correct outcomes with man-made computer models for complex phenomena (we probably will never be able to do that). The medication(s) that you take were formulated with the help of computer modeling. Those models are not “right”, but yet you take the med(s). Your doctor treats you based on protocols and procedures that are based largely on computer models, but yet you don’t eschew medical professionals. Your car engine’s design is based on complex computer models, yet those models can’t give you the “right” value for the performance of the engine in your car. As an engineer, I use models to predict the performance of certain motor components, such as bearings, yet I have never had one instance where the model I used ever gave the “right” value or actual outcome. So, do we disregard climate models because they haven’t been exactly “right”? Or do we act based on the best available modeling that science can produce thus far (as we do with all other models)?
Do you program computers for a living Tamra? Models are only as good as the ability of the programmer to get the variables right. If your modeling programs don’t measure up, then get a new program.
As with anything relating to computers GIGO!
Uh, yes when the models used predict temperature rises which none of us has seen for over 18 years, and when those same agencies pushing Climate Change are doing so to tax the Global Community, then you ought to ignore the models. Ockham’s Razor mean anything to you?
The Earth has been warmer many times, and much much cooler too. All without man’s presence. Do you know how much C02 was generated laying down the beds of coal we’ve used for hundreds of years? A great deal. Yet mile thick glaciers covered the northern latitudes, and they melted! Without man.
I suspect we will be able to model climate, once we truly understand it. Today we don’t, and taking hard earned wealth from Global Societies without proof is just plain theft.
I have written computer models. I don’t do it for a living. Now are you going to answer my questions (including my original question of how you would gauge if a computer model were “right”)? If not, I’ll suppose you just don’t really understand what computer modelling is about and what the expectations are from employing models.
You are silly beyond my ken. If the model doesn’t reflect the observations, not even close, the model is flawed. If the model is correct, it should properly predict in advance the observations taken at a later time, none do!
Obviously you don’t have the same understanding of models as I do. And you’re not going to answer my questions. Good day.
I’ve built computers from discrete ICs Tamra, hell, I’ve built half adders from vacuum tubes! I understand binary logic, and have programmed them using hard wired connections, instructions entered via switch bank, paper tape, magnetic tape, and disk drives. I do understand models, and know that if you don’t have all the variables, constants, or you make assumptions which are not valid, you will not get results which correlate to observations in real life.
You need to consider that the Sun is the variable with the greatest impact upon our climate. It has been so for billions of years. There lies the culprit, and it is now entering into a period of less activity.
You ask me questions, but can’t even answer simple ones designed to make you think.
Tamra, 10,000 years ago, there were glaciers 1 mile thick in Minnesota, Michigan, and other northern tier states. Man wasn’t industrial in the least, unless you want to count creating Clovis points for his weapons.
WHAT CAUSED 1 MILE THICK GLACIERS TO MELT?
Good day yourself.
I don’t think you’ve said anything relevant to the topic. But we really don’t have any common basis of understanding to make it worth continuing.
I’ll end my side of the conversation here.
Tell me what textbook related to Climatology or Atmospherics you’ve read that establishes theory based on “Ockham’s Razor”.
Like I said silly beyond my ken.
Tamra, if we haven’t observed any warming for 18+ years, then obviously CO2 isn’t forcing warming, especially since we’ve still been pumping out CO2.
The simpler explanation is often the correct explanation.
ie. The warming that the alarmists are concerned with fall within the variability of the normal distribution when looked at from the entire known data. 4 billion years of climate, some hotter, some warmer, some wetter, some drier. Tamra, what factor has the greatest impact on the Earths Climate? This isn’t a hard question. Ockham’s Razor will give you the answer.
There are plenty of scientist who disagree with man-made global warming or even with the notion that the earth will continue to warm. Sadly a lot of careers rely on ‘global warming’ being real so the propaganda will continue in order to keep climatologist relevant.
“There are plenty of scientist who disagree with man-made global warming”…..then why haven’t any more than TWO been able to publish peer-reviewed papers on the topic, out of more than 10,000 that have asserted its real and man-made?
Your statistics are false. Here is a small fraction of the scientific field who publicly have disagreed with the notion of man made global warming. You don’t here of these people because they don’t promote the Liberal Media’s agenda.
David Bellamy, botanist.
Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.
Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society
Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University
Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences
Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.
Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003)
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University
Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science
Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry
Zbigniew Jaworowski,
And here is just a TINY slice of organizations who utterly disagree with those people….
NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS):http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA):http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC):http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
National Academy of Sciences (NAS):http://books.nap.edu/collections/global_warming/index.html
State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC) –http://www.socc.ca/permafrost/permafrost_future_e.cfm
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA):http://epa.gov/climatechange/index.html
The Royal Society of the UK (RS) – http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=3135
American Geophysical Union (AGU):http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/policy/climate_change_position.html
American Meteorological Society (AMS):http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/climatechangeresearch_2003.html
American Institute of Physics (AIP): http://www.aip.org/gov/policy12.html
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR):http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html
American Meteorological Society (AMS):http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/jointacademies.html
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS):http://www.cmos.ca/climatechangepole.html
Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)
Royal Society of Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Academie des Sciences (France)
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)
Indian National Science Academy
Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
But if scientists are too liberal and politicians too unreliable, perhaps you find the opinion of key industry representatives more convincing:
BP, the largest oil company in the UK and one of the largest in the world, hasthis opinion:
There is an increasing consensus that climate change is linked to the consumption of carbon based fuels and that action is required now to avoid further increases in carbon emissions as the global demand for energy increases.
Shell Oil (yes, as in oil, the fossil fuel) says:
Shell shares the widespread concern that the emission of greenhouse gases from human activities is leading to changes in the global climate.
Eighteen CEOs of Canada’s largest corporations had this to say in an open letter to the Prime Minister of Canada:
Our organizations accept that a strong response is required to the strengthening evidence in the scientific assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). We accept the IPCC consensus that climate change raises the risk of severe consequences for human health and security and the environment. We note that Canada is particularly vulnerable to the impacts of climate change.
Have the environazis seized the reigns of industrial power, in addition to infiltrating the U.N., the science academies of every developed nation, and the top research institutes of North America? That just doesn’t seem very likely.
Most of the organizations you named would lose relevance and funding without global warming. Many of the people I showed you work for the ‘science academies of every developed nation’ and the ‘top research institutes of North America’. 150 years of sporadic computer models is far too inconclusive for anyone to deem man made global warming as fact. It’s ludicrous.
BP oil and Shell would lose money??? LMFAO that’s hilarious.
BP, the largest oil company in the UK and one of the largest in the world, hasthis opinion:
There is an increasing consensus that climate change is linked to the consumption of carbon based fuels and that action is required now to avoid further increases in carbon emissions as the global demand for energy increases.
Shell Oil (yes, as in oil, the fossil fuel) says:
Shell shares the widespread concern that the emission of greenhouse gases from human activities is leading to changes in the global climate.
And yet they still drill? It’s all PR bullshit snap out of it.
Why wouldn’t they drill when its their business and there’s still money to be made in it?
You do realize that science has nothing to do with “consensus,” right?
their you go opening you pie hole again
Um, isn’t that more than two? Snake driver debunked!
Nope! No links to any peer-reviewed articles on that post. STILL waiting!!!
your a dummy the sun an core friction provide sll the heat for the globe hear look it up before you open your mouth an prove how studio ypou are
stupid you are
Save your breath, Cobra is a cultist and will not abandon his beliefs under any circumstances. He could find himself living under a mile of ice and snow, burning coal to survive and he’d just hate himself for the carbon footprint he’s leaving!
Is this rant supposed to somehow “prove” that climate change isn’t man-made? lol
Nope, I won’t waste a second of my life trying to prove or disprove anything for you! Have a nice day 🙂
http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/05/31/environmentalists_pick_up_where_communists_left_off/page/full
Charles, like I am agnostic on Man made global warming, as we all should be, it is been a farce even though indeed a possibility. but warming , then cooling then climate change then warming again, is inane, , Charles here, he like myself also exhibits common sense, something that is void from radical environmentalists. These environmentalist radicals think we want dirty air, how much more proof do you need of their ignorance. We all want clean air, but we also want to get to work and feed our families. Rather than gazillion on this stuff,let these so called experts spend their time aqnd energy on cleaner, cheaper alternative , 99.9% of us will be happy to support that.
You are so right……I have read enough of his posts to realize that he is a zealot whose mind is made up and he is lacking the intellectual curiosity to evaluate an opposing view regardless of the facts presented. I remember the zealots being equally enthusiastic in their support for the coming ice age back in the 70’s.
You don’t prove a theory by looking for examples that back it up, you look for examples that disprove it.
“Black Swan Theory” if you will.
Was this on the list? MIT Climate Scientist: Global Warming Believers A “CULT”: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/21/mit-climate-scientist-global-warming-believers-a-cult/
Most of the people on your list are not Climate Scientists and interestingly the average age of that mob is about 70 years old.
Why is it just crusty old academics that are denying human induced climate change?
Ever hear of an echo chamber? Ever consider that these scientists don’t have a job if they aren’t funded?
Follow the money, you ought to have learned that in 12th grade.
She never got that far. She dropped out after the 7th grade. Isn’t that obvious?
Because the review process includes ONLY those who are invested in ‘global warming’ being true.
Yu obviously don’t have a clue what a peer-reviewed science article is in that case
Over 600 comments, 77 upvotes. Hmmm….
Hmmm what? 2 peer reviewed papers supporting your view versus over 10,000 supporting mine. Hmmmmmm
Said it earlier, bares repeating:
You don’t prove a theory by looking for examples that back it up, you look for a example that disproves it.
A “Black Swan Theory” if you will.
guppy2 cobra pilot is stupid you cant cure stupid
LOL, true
I hope he isn’t really a Cobra pilot, kinda scary.
How many Nazi’s had peers, and same for those that thought blacks were inferior. Radicals have always had peers concur.
what part of “peer”, do you not comprehend?
Because they have to be liberal for you to believe them.
You ever publish anything?
I rest my case.
that is an asinine comment. The $$$ supporting pseudoscience is real and growing. Anyone who will put their name on the lies coming from the deniers will be paid handsomely.
ah, and travel the world speaking to the dwindling #’s of likeminded deniers. Monckton is a great example.
Whatever happened to climategate? you check that out? uh huh.
You’re asking why the conservatives can’t produce peer-reviewed articles that attempt to prove a negative (that AGW is not happening)?
You can’t prove a negative. What we can do is find the faults in the “studies” that make a positive assertion, and that has been done in spades.
Appeals to authority have no place in science. We’ve already seen concrete examples of guardians of the peer-review process protecting their pet theory against all comers, and we’ve seen “scientists” like Hansen massaging the data so that the past becomes cooler and the present becomes warmer. We’ve seen the climate-gate emails from East Anglia. We’ve seen as computer models fail to predict events as significant as 18 years of flat temperatures, and been amazed as the so-called scientists tell us to ignore the actual data, and instead believe the climate models.
These climate models have never been validated– they’d have to
successfully predict something for that to happen. They’ve never done
that. They have continued to predict warming over the last 18 years, even as the temperatures have remained flat. The period of warming alarmism (that began when cooling alarmism of the 70s ended) has only been a hair longer than the period of flat temperatures.
In science, if the data don’t fit the theory, you try a new theory (actually a hypothesis, but most people don’t really know the difference). In climate science, if the data don’t fit the theory, you change or ignore the data and double down on the pronouncements of the accuracy of your predictions.
The warmists love to wrap themselves in the banner of science, but the cult of warmism is anything but.
What about your Dem Senator that voted against the expansion of Military on Guam, because the extra people would make it ‘tip over’?
Are these the same ones that admit that global warming is also occurring on Mars, Venus, and several other sister planets? Damn, I didn’t realize the tailpipe on my SUV was that long.
Post a link to a source for your claim please
news.nationalgeographic.com/…/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.accuweather.com/…/global-warming-on-mars/66321
There are a couple dozen other articles on the same if you care to google.
facts are not facts based on a lie
Hey pb, your ” facts” are bogus.and so is your common sense. No intelligent person is going to spend their time, energy and funds ” disproving someone else feelings! You can not be so naive, ( then guess you can) to think that 99% of the ” peer” article writers, did not begin with a conclusion first of ” global warming, err climate change, err ice age, err no ice age, err no snow, err too much snow, err lots of hurricanes, err no hurricanes? It is as comical as listening to Obama say something this week that he said the opposite last week. The sun will rise tomorrow, and set as that proves global warming, prove me wrong on that conclusion?
No global warming in over 18 years.
You nailed it – peer reviewed – so when your ” peers ” review your science, they amazingly agree with it, because their agenda is the same. If you are invested in Natural Gas, you darn well want coal plants shuttered. and the beat goes on===
Because Michael Mann and Christopher Jones threatened any peer-review journal that published anything that contradicted their propaganda.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf
Why did the global warming ‘scientists have emails talking about ‘fixing their data’? That’s equivalent to fixing a horse race.
what a simple-minded approach to a complex issue.
go ahead and do some further research on climategate. Huh, i wonder why you choose to read ONLY THE EDITED emails, and not the actual emails that existed before HACKERS DOCTORED THEM.
don’t look behind the curtain — you might see something you don’t understand!!
Well, i didn’t think you’d read more than one fact. But here’s a second one. The UK Met office has released a report showing no warming for 16 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261577/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-Met-Office-report-reveals-MoS-got-right-warming–deniers-now.html
Now, why was this report quietly released? If they truly believed in GW why would this NOT be celebrated?
Fact 3 (Goggle it yourself).
Of the greenhouse gases water vapor has the biggest impact. Then natural sources of CO2. Removing all manmade sources of CO2 will not prevent GW according to the climate ‘scientists’ own models.
So the truth is that people that promote GW are just like the snake oil salesmen from 100+ years ago. They use the trappings of science to scam the public.
There are more facts, but i expect this is your limit at a time.
Yeah right…….that’s the ticket….publish a lie and it becomes truth. What about the hoaxes where the books were “cooked” to promote a false narrative to promote global warming……
We’ll just overlook that, right.
support your assertion with any link to the evidence you tout.
please, let the rest of the world see your secret!
There is plenty of documentation that debunks the whole global warming assertion. If you haven’t kept up I’m not going to spend any time researching for you. You might want to start with East Anglia.
the headlines ring from the rafters, while the retractions slink by under the floorboards.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=climategate+results
be brave enough to click on the link that ISN’T fox news for once. The rest of the world (including the US house) caught on that this was an email hack designed to fool simpletons like yourself. Good luck in a complicated world.
I suspect that you would believe the world is flat if the right person told you. In the mean time I would suggest that you calm down a little and quit calling people who disagree with you stupid. What is stupid is the global warmist alarmists declaring the debate over when there is credible evidence to support the other side of the issue. You are apparently one of the easily manipulated who have fallen into their trap. I have no further reason to communicate with you as I believe you to be too narrow minded to evaluate a subject objectively, preferring to accept and regurgitate the liberal narrative of the day. Good day.
lol u just keep listening to the actor/director bill nye .
More of a television personality than a scientist. The book should be called “Unreliable.”
That’s right you should always believe the con man who is trying to take your money with some phony lie. You flat earthers and your consensus science. You were wrong when your consensus scientist told us that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth and you are wrong now with your man made global warming. Always remember we have seen the email where these so called scientist admitted they lied and hid the truth.
In actual fact CobraPilot, there were only 64 peer reviewed papers (out of 11,500-odd) in Cooks study that stated that man (us) was >50% (category 1) responsible for AGW.
That’s exactly what I was thinking Mike.
I despise the NY Times ! I pray for their NY Queens building to get torn down and put something useful in it’s place ! They have insane people working for them !
Maybe the “snowricane” will get them.
Do you ever get the feeling that someone up there (maybe Mother Nature) is showing the East Coast, especially the New York Area what they think of “Global Warming”?
It just cracks me up. Blaseo, the Mayor, is running around crazy closing all the streets.
I wonder what the next era will be called. Remember “Nuclear Winter?”
For libs, global warming, err climate change is a religion. While the NYT’s and libs have no problem attacking faithful for superstitious like beliefs, the climate change wacksos who live in a fantasy land of unicorns and fairies.are beyond reproach.
hoobijoob is a prime example of what you said.
Obammamedia
apparently they have no shame genes
to them it just proves their point that the climate is changing. And look in a year man changed it so much that now it snows a lot. The left will never admit they have been taken for suckers by Gore and Co, because they have their own agenda.
Does The left’s King ever get embarrassed or admit he is deceived? so why would the surfs
The Left simply never gets embarrassed. A person needs feelings to get embarrassed.
Don’t say they were wrong. Please do not say that.
The Jew York Times is the official propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
Not as long as you still buy their paper
No.
They’re liberals. They lied before about GW and they’ll lie now about being wrong.
NY Times likes the browns in the country also, which is a sick wrong vile thought.
Liberals have no shame. They are incapable of being embarrassed by their obvious stupidity.
In our region, snow IS a distant memory. Growing up in upstate South Carolina, we had at least one good snow — 12 to 18 inches — a winter. The last one I remember was in 1987. Now we get an occasional dusting of 1/4 to 1 inch, which is typically gone by noon. I know folks in the Northeast would probably love that right now, but my children have never seen or experienced snow the way I remember it.
“Doesn’t the Times ever get embarrassed about never being right about anything?”
Why start now?
Does ever Nabisco get embarrassed about their claims for Shredded Wheat? Do Cubs fans ever get embarrassed about their predictions for the next World Series?
See, the thing is, propagandists don’t have to believe what they’re saying. Simply saying it seems to serve some strange but useful purpose for them. //big smile//
Up until now I thought the warmists were true believers in the data and simulations; that they were just mediocre scientists that simply didn’t check their input or results sufficiently. Yes, in the sense of a Cubs fan wishing for a World Series, wishing very hard for the “necessary” government policies may not be immoral in their eyes. This fits other situations as well.
I understand and we’re almost entirely on the same page.
Immorality isn’t a necessary component of being factually wrong, although if somebody knows he’s wrong and promotes a viewpoint anyway, that’s immoral, I think.
But But, Al Gore and the the global warming stooges told us 10 years ago we’d never see snow on the east coast again
And Ted Danson said in 10 years the oceans would be dead.
Of course he said it 27 years ago, but still…
“Man Made” Climate Change / Global Warming is a *THEORY*
So far, all the 20 year-old computer model projections and doomsday predictions have been wrong . . . so have the 10 year-old ones, and in this case – last year’s whine.
Watch “Inconvenient Truth” again and compare AlGore’s predictions to reality – it is eye opening.
Where I sit typing this in Ohio – was covered with glacial ice *7 times* in the last 700,000 years ~ where did that ice come from / and go if “warming” and “cooling” is not a natural cyclical phenomena?
Gravity is just a theory as well. What’s your point.
In order for “Gravity” to be *proven science* the way AGW is ~ Newton’s apple would have to fall BOTH down and up…
Tell us all, Nicolas ~ when *any* result is used to *prove* a theory ~ how would we know if we solved the crisis of AGW?
More snow / less snow ~ droughts / floods ~ cold / warm . . . “scientific models” have been flat out wrong about the predicted impact of AGW for almost 20 years. If your GPS had you going in the wrong direction repeatedly for that long, would you still be using it?
Or would you still be unable to find your ass with both hands and a mirror?
Wait for the headlines: “Northeast Blizzard Proves Global Warming”. New taxes to follow.
True.Fact.
“Climate Change” is the multi-purpose crisis:
– causes floods in the Phillipines
– causes droughts in California
– causes the cold Polar Vortex
– causes the stifling summer heat
– causes an increase in crime (you can Google it!)
– causes an increase in rapes (Google that, too)
When a summer day is hot – climate change is to be blamed.
When a summer day is cold- climate change is to be blamed.
When a winter day is cold – climate change is to be blamed.
When a winter day is hot – climate change is to be blamed.
If the weather is average – you can’t say anything because local weather is not climate, you dumb non-scientists.
/sigh – any wonder why the alarmists are not believed any more?
DOES WARM AIR OR COLD AIR HOLD MORE MOISTURE?
That question is irrelevant to the blizzard.
The Left’s claim that global warming would end snow and melt the ice everywhere has been shown by science to be false. The Left then tried to switch to “climate change with violent weather”. But the hurricanes didn’t show up and the number of tornadoes was also down.
We really do need some global warming. In the middle age warm up places like Finland had great wines and people lived longer than when it ended. Warmer weather will open up great crop land in northern Canada and Alaska and elsewhere. But, things like all the C02 man is pumping into the atmosphere only raises the level by 0.001%. Not enough to make a difference. And the Al Gore’s who want to tax and tax and tax for climate change admit that if they get all they want it will make do difference in the outcome. In the end, green is the new red.
Damn you hearltess Global Warming! You are a cruel and relentless mistress!!!…
DAMN GLOBAL WARMING!!!
In the long run, the temperature tends to go up and down.
The climate is warming except when it is cooling.
-Dr. Shmoo, Phd, Gender Studies, and Ethnic Diversity.
“On record” = 130 years. Move along…nothing to see here.
The global warming crowd better hope it is warming, otherwise its an ice age.
Elmer Gantry is laughing his arse off. When global warming catastrophe deadlines pass innocently, these shyster global warming preachers just set a new date, but only the stupidest believe them anymore. Remember when British school children weren’t supposed to ever have seen snow by now? UHHH, time so shift the date again to fool the rubes.
If we had only approved the gazillions of dollars in spending that the Warmists wanted 15 or 20 years ago, they would now be claiming credit for the blizzards as a return to climate normalcy.
The author/editor of the NYT article graduated with an MFA in fiction from The New School in 2004. it’s amazing people will believe the lefts rhetoric without real research. Blind faith in liberalism is the most frightening dogma, ever.
The New School (formerly known as the New School for Social Research) started out as a socialist hippie commune in the 1970’s to suck down federal education grant dollars and convert them into weed and sex parties for the “faculty”.
Kick Al Gore out of New York and the snow ill disappear. The snow Gods follow Gore around just to troll his fat arse.
When will we ever learn? The Global Warming hoax is just another liberal taxation scheme. Just like the VAT in Europe, it’s supposed to be a tax on the producers so none of the rubes down the line know they are being taxed. It was a pretty elaborate scheme that used scientific grants to get the results they wanted. Too bad they got caught. /sarc
Carbon taxes are massive wealth redistribution scheme. The Europeons love it.
I have an innovative idea.
The alarmists claim global warming is “settled science”.
In that case, we should de-fund it. If the science is settled, what’s the point of spending money on it anymore?
That is, by far, the most intelligent and insightful comment I have ever read on the subject.
Ya but the Libtards in the North East are not smart enough to put Two and Two Together…. I mean think about it… How many times was the World Trade Center Bombed? What Cities famous Marathon was bombed? and they think the biggest threat to the WORLD is a woman having to buy her own birth control and American Christians….
Paging AlGore, the northeast needs you and global warming right away!
over-educated idiocy knows no bounds
It’s the media’s fault for putting them on the same pedestal as real science.
Once again.
Everything proves climate change.
Nothing can disprove climate change.
That’s because climatology is the only science that’s actually been “settled.”
Whatever that means,
And the libbies wanted “global warming” sooooooo bad!!! 🙂
This blizzard is clearly due to fracking.
The Dallas earthquakes sure are
How then do you explain the quakes that have shaken Ct? I live just north of there and I’m pretty sure there is no fracking going on.
I guarantee that 2015 will be proclaimed the hottest year ever — regardless of the actual temperature records (which are doctored any way).
HAHA. Their claim about 2014 being the hottest year on record was crap. Their “perceived temperature change” was 0.1 Degree. The standard margin of error was 0.3 degrees. Not statistically significant, which means 2014 wasn’t the warmest year on record.
There were roughly 10,000 peer-reviewed papers on climate change published in the last 3 years. Out of those 10,000, only TWO supported the theory that climate change is not man-made
Global warming is bull sh*t.
I sure hope you crazy, whacko bird yankies up north enjoy your global warming blizzard.
97% of climate scientists believe its man-made and out of 10,000 peer-reviewed papers on the topic, TWO (that’s approx .001%) assert man has nothing to do with it and YOU’RE the “sane” one? LOL get real
“Get with the Orthodoxy!” shriek the new Grand Inquisitors.
Or be burnt at the stake.
More like get with reality and start paying attention to science versus talk radio
For more on the “science,” google Climategate.
No need. http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
and http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
Oh goodie. A Warmist has just shown up. I bet he is cold from all the snow, so he is here warming us up with all of his rhetoric. BTW, 97% study has been disproven time and again. Besides, consensus does not make GW real.
You know what HASN’T been “disproven over and over again”? The fact that only TWO peer-reviewed studies out of more than TEN THOUSAND support your claim
I cite you this WSJ article pointing to the fallacy of the 97% myth.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303480304579578462813553136
And I cite you these 2 articles which prove my point… http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
and http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
I’d be cranking out all kinds of dire climate warnings too if my next grant depended on it. Has NSF or the EPA ever award grant money to climate skeptics?
http://news.wikinut.com/Debunked%3A-97%25-consensus-on-global-warming/1g9vw28s/
I tire of this lie being trotted out again and again.
I’m getting a little confused now. HT Drudge who found a NYT opinion column talking about the end of snow – in Feb 2014: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/opinion/sunday/the-end-of-snow.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=1. Today, the NYT is closing shop early because of… YOU GUESSED IT: SNOW! The bipolar nature of global warming is such that it can never NOT be global warming.
Darn that pesky global normal!
Uh, care to comment, former vice president and (must . . . not . . . smirk) climate activist Al Gore? Doesn’t the pla-YANN-et have a fa-HEE-ver?
Yes, I see, and no, you can’t f— me or the horse I rode in on. I don’t even own a horse.
nothing will stop the warmists
Maybe if there were more than only TWO peer-reviewed papers out of more than 10,000 that supported the notion that climate change is not man-made, then you’d have something.
I’ve got a notion that you’re full of sheet.
Read em and weep pal…. “Of 10,885 Peer-Reviewed Articles on Climate Change in 2013, Only 2 Question Human Involvement”… http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
“Why Climate Deniers Have No Scientific Credibility: Only 1 of 9,136 Recent Peer-Reviewed Authors Rejects Global Warming”…. http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
Gov science. Pfft! So you’re still full of sheet. And by the way, I’m not your pal.
All sources cited, for your pleasure. Now what are YOU going to produce to “prove” your 3% of deniers aren’t in denial? lol
Have you proven anything to refute? All you’ve done is cite worthless opinions. You’re not worthy of anyone proving anything based on your liberal, unproven rhetoric. I’ve sat here and watched you try to bait people in so you can copy and paste your bullsheet. Get some irrefutable facts and then come back and make some demands fly boy (wanna-be).
…Said the Grand Inquisitor to Galileo.
Except that no one did peer reviewed studies back in the 1500’s. Anything else?
See Climategate on “peer-reviewed” AGW Holy Writ.
Maybe if every climate model hadn’t been wrong one might take you seriously moron!
I like, “Differently Atmosphered.”
Government sponsored scientists on the blizzard of 2015: “We are 34% sure it was the warmest blizzard on record.”
“THIS is the last snow we’ll ever see. I guarantee it. Snow is done. Over. No more snow. EVER!”
Sorry but this isn’t snow. It’s volcanic ash from the burning Mother Earth. It only feels cold because you’re a shallow heartless GOP stooge.
Cold: It’s the new warm.
LaTrinius? That’s like a toilet, right?
Stupid yard ape.
What happened to that “hottest year on record” dribble that was floated last week? Oh yes, of course – the bite of the progressive wine takes a man’s soul into regions that he cannot easily escape without clinical intervention. Bunch of ignorant dullards that inhabit the grand echo chambers constructed by the unsavory oligarchs who would proclaim themselves your leaders and rule over your sorry souls!
Dear Ali Goof Al Gore: I know that we’ve been paying you to cool us down from the awful warming. But, warm it up a little and give some money back to warm it up? Please, sweat hog Ali!!
“Snowiest Decade evah…?”
Who do these people handing out “awards” before the “data” is in think they are, The Nobel Committee?
My phrenologist insists that climate change is real.
Mine told me it’s all in my head.
Climate Change… so now if it get warmer, or colder, or stays the same, they’re right! Can’t argue with that.
ITS JUST LIKE WHEN THE ROMANS CREATED THE MYTH THAT THIS MAN CAME AND YOU DONT HAVE TO NOT SIN ANYMORE AND GODS WORDS ARE MEANINGLESS ….. JUST MORE LIES CREATED BY POWERFUL PEOPLE TO FIND NEW REVENUE STREAMS
It is increasingly clear, from the historical record, from geological studies, from corings on an off shore, and from recent observations, and new theories, that CO2 is NOT the cause of warming, and the warming that does exist is withing the normal range of variations for the planet when viewed over centuries, let alone the 10,000 years since the melting ice sheet cleared the midwest, or the eons of hot and cold periods science has detected.
It is clear that CO2 significantly increases the growth rates of forests, food crops and everything green.
It is also obvious that fracking and horizontal drilling can massively reduce the cost of energy in the world while minimizing the surface footprint dedicated to energy production.
In most of the world, the mineral rights deep below ground belong to the nation, not to private land owners. Once CO2 is exonerated and recognized to be the natural fertilizer it is, National governments will adopt and advance modern hydraulic fracturing (“fracking”) and horizontal drilling world wide, leading to an order of magnitude decrease in the cost of energy, and a doubling or tripling in the availability of food, world wide.
WHAT DID OBAMA SAY AT THE STATE OF THE UNION ? ,
14 OF THE 15 HOTTEST YEARS ON RECORD HAVE HAPPENED THIS CENTURY .
WHY ISN’T THE SNOW LISTENING ?
THE FIGURES HE USES TO HYPE THE TRIPE ARE FROM LAND BASED TEMPERATURE STATIONS .
THEY ARE NOT CONSTANTLY DISTRIBUTED AND MANY ARE IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED .
WE HAVE KNOWN FOR MORE THAN A DECADE THAT QUITE A FEW OF THEM ARE PLACED NEAR
ASPHALT PARKING LOTS , ON ROOF TOPS NEAR AC EXHAUST AND EVEN AT AIRPORTS WHERE JET
EXHAUST BLOWS ON THEM . GARBAGE IN – GARBAGE OUT .
SATELLITE DATA AGREES WITH THE SNOW WHICH IS FOUND WORLDWIDE , NOT JUST IN THE USA .
IT ALSO AGREES WITH THE RECORD ICE FORMATION AT BOTH POLES .
SO WHY DOES OBAMA CHOOSE TO USE OUTDATED , KNOWN FLAWED DATA WHEN SPACE AGE ACCURACY IS AVAILABLE ?
IT GIVES HIM THE NUMBERS THAT HE WANTS & THE TRUTH JUST ISN’T COOPERATING !
Bread and circuses, bread and circuses.
Meanwhile, Al Gore counts his money in his oceanside mansion.
geez–glad i moved south.
To many scientists and not enough discoveries.
When St. Peter meets me at the gate and asks, “Scooter, did you put your personal well being above that of all your fellow humans”. I will honestly be able to say, “no, I did not”. Maybe he’ll spare me.
We thinking folks will just have to accept that for everyone with a mind, there are 2 without a mind.
Thus we have cretins falling all over themselves hyping Global Warming, and its new name Climate Change.
How simple you must be to accept the fact that the Climate has been warming, and cooling for billions of years, long before man came on the scene, and now blame man for normal climate variation, and not call CO2 a pollutant! Just more proof that over half of us are stupid, and willing to believe anything that and “Expert” tells them. What is an expert you ask?
X = unknown quantity
Spurt = a drip under pressure.
An Expert is an unknown drip under pressure, particularly when it comes to Climate.
Credit global warming! That’ll snow you up for four years real good….
I’m suppose to believe these truth challenged geniuses? They can’t even predict picnic weather and I’m supposed to believe their predictions years and years out? Right!
No statistics matter, Global Warmers are full throttle…
If Godzilla appears in Central Park it will be because of Climate Change.
I remember that column by that brain-dead Ski Magazine editor Porter Fox in the Times in Feb. It was as laughable then as now. NYT didn’t allow comments, probably because they knew he’d get justifiably eviscerated.
Besides his knee jerk goose-stepping alarmism, what grated even more was his preening, narcissistic but ultimately phony Horatio Alger life story he weaved in.
More snow = more cold
FAIL!
Snow is precipitation, a result of having warmer oceans. If land temps increase from an average of 24 degrees to 28 degrees, water still freezes.
Just an FYI
Speaka da english?
Right!
Now explain for us how that relates to “lake effect” snow i n the same areas, when the Great Lakes have been far colder then “normal” for a couple of years now?
F…ing liars …its wintertime its wintertime!!!
It is winter. It usually snows in the winter.
Global warming… Climate change… Where I come from, we call such things weather. Oh well.
Does anyone think the 1,700 private jets belonging to the wealthiest 1% of the 1% who were in Davos, Switzerland last week discussing the affects the unwashed masses have on global warming had an effect on Super mega snowstorm Juno?
That’s crazy talk. Everybody knows left-wingers only fly on airplanes powered by unicorn farts.
Time to bury as many Global Warming Freaks up their eyeballs in snow and ice forever drowning out their pathetic cries for MO money for the grossly inept and corrupt UN!
Let’s see now………
We have warmed up an average of a what, a degree and a half, (Globally speaking of course.), since the end of the Little Ice age at around 1850 or so. (And thank goodness for that!). Then we find out that the warming stopped or “paused” over 18 years ago, long before such was admitted to by the scientists we’re all told we should trust.
In the midst of all this we are also now said to be having the snowiest decade of the last 50 years or so, since this winter makes at least the ninth consecutive one with record amounts of snow and cold.
So basically we’re all supposed to believe it when we’re told that something which stopped………excuse me…..”paused”……is real, while something we see as ongoing doesn’t constitute a trend of a completely different sort?
Sorry, I don’t think so.
Except that you must stop looking at those temperatures that are not adjusted to fit the models. If you look at the adjusted temperatures then you can see that the warming has not stopped.
At least that is what Al Gore told me to say…
Ah yes, the Goreacle, high priest of the new religion!
All I can say is that we need to do something otherwise the Hudson river may freeze!!
Oh wait it used to do that in the 1700’s.
Never mind.
Make your mind up people you can’t have it both ways, first you say it’s the warmest year on record (BS) then in the same sentence you claim the snowiest. Environmental freaks must be rolling over in their planes that they pollute the air with heading to their yachts for a cruise to discuss climate change.. hypocrites they are.
Last year was the warmest year on record for the Earth, this last decade has been the snowiest on East Coast. The two are not mutually exclusive. The East Coast is a subset of locations belonging to the Earth.
1934 was the warmest year on record, you are a pathetic lemming.
You’re citing a report that says 1934 was the hottest year in the US not the entire earth. The US only constitutes 2% of the surface area of the entire planet. Nice try though.
Do the words “margin of error” mean anything to you?
Do the words cherry picking research mean anything to you? The 1934 statistics relate to the US only, not the world. He failed. Plain and simple.
AL GORE was right!!!!!!!! 6 of the last 24 biggest snow storms happened in this century!!!!!!!!! More proof that Al GORE got it right!!!!!! Any questions???????
George Orwell said that “in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” Wow…..this is SO true!! None of us DARE question Climate Change, or we are the enemy. Good God!!
This is all due to Global Warming ? How stupid have we become to let bastards like Al Gore get rich on such a big lie ! We really need to wake up ! We need a good and trained firing squad to fix the USA !
The colder it gets the more they will blame Glo-Bull Warming lol.
I’ll give em credit for being consistent – consistent liars.
Up is down, right is left, blue is black – got it.
Last year was the hottest year on record.
Proven false, thanks for playing.
NEXT!!!
Sorry, it was confirmed by 4 independent agencies all using separate datasets. It was hardly proven wrong.
NOPE!!! Poor lemming simpleton.
I see we don’t have an argument so instead we resort ad hominem.
NOPE I have stated a fact. Not surprised you cannot grasp that though. It is very clear you lack intelligence.
No, you have made a statement without backing it up with evidence.
So have you.
Here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/01/23/sorry-skeptics-nasa-and-noaa-were-right-about-the-2014-temperature-record/
Both sources are highly biased.
So then it should be easy to refute them. How about you give it a try.
That was done many times in the original article. See above. I don’t believe that redundancy is necessary. The authors did their work.
LOL! If you had actually read the article you’d know that they were refuting the claims made above.
Read the second half.
Of which article?
The one on Facebook about the dog that is about to be euthanized. How could you not know that?
The article I linked to from the Washington Post? The whole thing refutes your claims. You clearly haven’t read it.
Wow, you are really demented.
Right, the guy that understands the research and statistics behind it is demented. Whatever you have to tell yourself so you can sleep at night…
Or: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2901776/It-s-official-2014-hottest-year-record-10-warmest-1998.html
You are, in fact, a lemming simpleton, you make that crystal clear. There is no debate. No further evidence is needed.
No facts, no evidence, just name calling. Love it!
She is trying to impress you by using Latin. Did you notice?
Yeah, it was the hottest year on record. Go with that.
http://images.remss.com/figures/blogs/2014/rss_model_ts_globe_tlt_mears.png
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/01/23/sorry-skeptics-nasa-and-noaa-were-right-about-the-2014-temperature-record/
LMFAO why are you wasting your time? There is nothing you have read that I haven’t read long before you.
There is no AGW, period. Deal with it.
Perhaps if you had read it you would know that your so called debunking of the claim fails miserably.
Are you like Sarah Palin? You read all the papers?
So gullible, so easily duped, so sad.
No facts, no evidence…
All of your posts prove my comments correct with 100% certainty.
Thanks for playing
None of your posts prove anything except your unwillingness to present your evidence that 2014 was NOT the warmest year on record.
Poor lemming simpleton. Do your own homework. There are far more credible articles proving it was not the hottest year out there. Go look.
No, the scientific data is more credible than your simple nay saying. How about instead of name calling you actually look at the data?
I have looked at all the data, it is you who needs to do the looking.
I’ll bet you have…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2901776/It-s-official-2014-hottest-year-record-10-warmest-1998.html
Europe has considered charging Climate Change deniers as criminals. This is how EVIL of a lie this is. This is the biggest hoax on the planet, and it is squelching so many peoples livelihoods and freedoms.
The Luegenpresse will go along with global warming explanation. The Luegenpresse cannot afford to back down on their lies. As with BHO the Luegenpresse feel they are invincible.
Luegenpresse = lying media
Danka. Mein Deutcsh ist ein venig rusty.
Verstanden. Dort aber für Vermögen und Tapferkeit würden wir alle Deutsch sprechen.
Understood. There but for fortune and bravery we all
would be speaking German.
I took 2 years of German in High School, class of ’72.
That is dating you. That is back when an education meant a whole lot more than today’s cookie cutter version of sit, spit and then vomit the right common core answer.
Yep, we could add 2+2 without going through 20 steps.
I actually got that one, by inference partially…
This should cool off that “fever” that Forest Gore says the planet has.
My bottom line on “global warming” – No, I want pay any taxes to the UN or the IRS to fix it.
????? 🙂 “want” or “won’t”
Won’t and will not. Thinks for the typo fix.
Forget about it. 🙂
Some folks don’t take correction well. Good job.
Global warming is too big to fail!
Nice!
Love it when people write anecdotal articles and everyone picks up on it like it matters. Believe it or not the world is larger than the US. Here is a thoughtful article on this issue from the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/19/dear-snow-trolls-winter-weather-does-not-refute-global-warming/
Larger than the US, yes. But is it not odd, that the world looks to little old US whenever the big bad wolf comes knocking on their door, or for a hand out, or for assistance or for political backing? Hmmm?
We are talking climate here, not political or war powers. People think that what appears to be cold weather in the US means the entire planet is cooling. It is a geography and not a political lesson.
Geo-politics to be precise. And the lesson is learned by understanding the scientific process as opposed to making policy through consensus.
If the Warmists really want to contribute to the decline of CO2 in the atmosphere, they should kill themselves… Thereby eliminating all of that nasty CO2 they exhale day in and day out….The need to lead by example —
This truly is the age of global warming. SMH……….
We should take all the endangered fishes out of the sea and put them in giant aquariums to protect them. This is the dawning of the age of aquarium. The age of aquarium.
Nice.
Nice…..
In science isn’t one supposed to test theories or hypotheses? If what a “scientist” predicted would happen does NOT happen, doesn’t he and “the scientific community” revisit said theory? Answer: Not when it’s global warming science.
There is no science in AGW. Just money. Yours and mine, leaving out pockets.
No snow or rain, global warming. Too much rain and snow, global warming. Record cold, global warming, record heat, definitely global warming. No statistically measurable change in global temperatures for nearly 20 years, that’s global warming for sure! /sarc
I think you totally nailed it, except that you missed the scientific explanation of why temperature measurements that are actually real, not tampered with, show clearly that global warming has gone deep into the dark depths of the oceans, and will rise up and strike, wreaking its vengeance on mankind like that Iron Man robot in the Black Sabbath song. Just you wait. Global warming is really, really sneaky.
Earth’s climate has never been static and probably won’t be until we’re swallowed by the Sun in about 7 billion years. A static climate would be the scary scenario, not a changing one.
I agree. I don’t believe, however, that humans have any measurable influence, either way, on what the climate does.
OK I only have one question. Is this any more believable then the constant lie about Global warming, cooling or change, what ever those morons are calling it now. They have to keep changing it because every time they predict something it doesn’t happen. It is all lies, fake, fraudulent and made up to try and control people and steal more money from the American people.
keep clinging ever tighter to the lies your shrinking bubble reasserts for you.
every credible scientist in the world disagrees with your layperson opinion.
seek experts, then seek help for your condition.
No fact most credible scientists that don’t have a financial interest think global warming is garbage.
I guess you have figured out the new definition of “credible”: A scientist who will ho himself for money.
Are these the same “credible” scientists who invest in Al Gore’s scam carbon credit companies — lol
AL GORE!!!!? darn, you win.
BENGHAZI!!!! Now I win!!
OBAMACARE!!! now we all win.
you’re welcome.
Psst. You’re telling the wrong lie. It’s supposed to be 97%, not 100.
In either case, it’s garbage.
http://news.wikinut.com/Debunked%3A-97%25-consensus-on-global-warming/1g9vw28s/
The most disturbing thing about the hoax of Global Warming is that they want to charge you for their religious beliefs— No other religion decrees mandatory monetary gain except the religion of GW — There must be a lot of money to swindle with this scam .. Warmists need to study physics, chemistry, and mathematics — basically the hard sciences in order to deprogram themselves from the lies they have been taught….
Climate change “experts” are folks trying desperately to keep the money gravy train going into their profession from government by sowing fear.
The left is a religion and facts don’t matter, just proper recitation of doctrine.
Doctrines like “rich people create jobs” or “America is being destroyed by immigrants”?
No, doctrines like “government creates jobs” and “illegal immigrants totally aren’t turning the country into a third-world sh*thole.”
Poor global warming nutballs. Seems the climate isn’t cooperating with them…..
Lol just because the average temperature has been proven to have been increasing, doesn’t mean it won’t snow any more. In fact, it may snow more in some places as a result
You do know what “global” means, right?
If you are looking for news, ignore NY Times. If you want Left-wing propaganda, then buy the Times. there are lots of Low-information people who don’t know who they are. They will continue to listen to the junk because it fits into their pre-conceived notion. when things turn out differently, they never look back and wonder what went wrong. There people are not only low-information people, they are arrogant. Obama is a typical one in this group. He has an ideology, so any lie, any prediction that fits into that ideology strokes their ego. these are ignorant, arrogant ideologues. They are also idiots.
If the NYTimes isn’t a reputable source, who is?
Was that a rhetorical question, or do you truly believe the NYT to be credible?
Of course they’ve made a few blunders in their 150 years in the field, but all in all, I can’t think of a single institution of journalism with a better reputation for getting the facts right. And there are plenty of conservative writers there as well
Wow. You need help.
Right back at ya
I suppose you think David Brooks, Ross Douthat, and William Safire, among others, are “untrustworthy”? They’re conservative writers for the NYTimes. Or is your prejudice only against non-conservative writers there?
You’re talking to yourself. Not worth further comment.
Another brilliantly unconvincing retort. Bravo lol
Gruber defined you and your Phylum to a T
ZZZzzzzz. See 3 posts below
A Gruber has no defense – claiming stupid will not work. And stuff – that should sink in now.
Yeah, I’ve only got about 10,000 peer-reviewed papers proving my point, versus your TWO. Have fun!! lol
http://testclimate.wpengine.com/2015/01/26/meteorologist-2010s-officially-the-snowiest-decade-in-the-east-coast-in-the-noaa-record-surpassing-the-1960s/
http://testclimate.wpengine.com/2015/01/26/meteorologist-2010s-officially-the-snowiest-decade-in-the-east-coast-in-the-noaa-record-surpassing-the-1960s/
http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
Crap – that was debunked big time – 95% of only 30% actually submitted some worry about the climate and weather – and if you are so informed – explain the medieval warming Period? Can you? Was it Viking SUVS that warmed the Planet or was it Roman Coal Fired Power Plants?mAnd why 5000 years ago was it colder?
Post a link to your source in that case as I’ve posted plenty from mine
Not a chance — you work for it lemming, you look and research. If you need help, loo at the study where tree rings and their growth were directly tied to Sun activity.
So, you’re basically full of it. How very unsurprising that you can’t back up your nonsense with any facts. All too typical. Sigh
You are not supposed to mention that. It’s a secret. The climate can’t be warmer than the medieval warming period. Deny, deny, deny. Cover up, cover up, cover up.
Then you shouldn’t have any problems posting a link to all these “numerous peer-reviewed” papers you claim exists to support your theory. I’m waiting….
When did I claim that? Get help.
How to confuse a Liberal………with facts and common sense.
Just speculating a little, would the term “confused liberal” be considered redundant and repetitive?
Oh God, Its Globull Waring, Climate Chaos – the oceans are on fire, its the CO2, its the Methane, its those Viking SUV’s and Roman Coal Fired Power Plants, oh god I am so afraid.We must stop all CO2 production immediately and the Planet will cool – oh wait – Snow?
Daaaaaaaaammmmmm******** you to he** global warming for heating the earth so much we’re swimming in snow and cold……we need to all pray for an ice age so we can have nice tropical weather.
Two snow jobs one from mother nature and the other from the global warmers led by the NYT’s.
Snowiest decade on record. Hottest year on record. Coldest year on record. Worst draught followed by worst flash floods. The Arctic Ice cape melting … record ice thickness in Arctic. El Nino followed by La Nina. There definitely is never any good news when it comes to the weather except that at 8 Billion and growing the human race seems to be thriving.
As are the polar bears.
So much for the global warming lies and BS
Maybe this is the coming Ice age my teachers told me about when I was a kid. It never came but then they switched to global warming so maybe they just got their timing waaaaayyyy off. It’s too bad, I would have preferred global warming to this new ice age.
We were told by the “scientists” that human life would pretty much not exist by the year 2010, if we didn’t spew soot into the atmosphere at a tremendous rate, and spread coal ash on the poles.
I was also taught by my teachers we had to achieve ZPG (Zero Population Growth) otherwise we would be living in a Soylent Green dystopian society. Teachers are freaking stoopid! LMAO! Hey Mrs. Sutter I never bought into your BS even as a kid you worthless indoctrinator.
This is the first article I have seen where the lies of the progressives are actually listed so that you can link to them and see for yourself that as they say, EVERY weather event is due to Global Warming. Moreover, just go back to the 1960s and early 70s to see that they were predicting an ICE age by 2000. When that failed to happen they were saddened and switched to Global Warming, later–after Al Gore, and his orgasmic ‘The Day After Tomorrow’ (yes I know he had nothing to do with that film, but it gave him an orgasm to see NY flooded, I’ll bet)–it became Climate Change. That was really the surrender flag, saying ‘we don’t know enough, but we have to keep people afraid. Progressives and the entire Democrat Party survive on the fear they instill in the uneducated, or worse the ‘college-indoctrinated’ who think of themselves as the ‘highly educated’. Everything they do, is related to somehow ‘protecting others’. It is not enough for a Progressive/Democrat to wear seatbelts, or eat Vegan, or to not drink and drive, or what have you, no, they have to get laws passed or protest people who wear or sell fur coats, in order to rob them of their freedom. Climate change is no different. Fear tactics so that they can pass laws to reduce our driving, or flying in airliners (all the while Al Gore is taking his private jet from here to there).
Anyone who has taken even an elementary science class knows that in the scientific method you must control all variables in and experiment before you can prove your hypothesis — How can you control variables such as solar activity ? The Warmists are plain ignorant… sad that they are so easily manipulated…
Money talks. Pay a “scientist” for a result, guess what you get.
Scientific grants have an odd way of skewing the data doesn’t it?
Easily manipulated people are usually weak minded and make excellent candidates for cults, like the Global Warming Cult.
“Those the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”
Seems to apply now more than ever.
Lies and more lies. Man is not responsible for climate change aka global warming. You have more scientists who deny it’s happening than those who claim it’s mans fault. That’s a fact. Getting sick of it. These winters are actually getting worse, hurricanes are down etc. The data is crap.
“You have more scientists who deny it’s happening than those who claim it’s mans fault.”…now THAT is totally bogus. Try about 2 peer reviewed papers against it and 10,000+ supporting it…
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/01/08/why-climate-deniers-have-no-scientific-credibility-only-1-9136-study-authors-rejects-global-warming
http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/of-10885-peer-reviewed-articles-on-climate-change-in-2013-only-2-question-human-involvement-140403?news=852832
Where is all that GLOBAL WARMING? Where is ALGORE on this?
Just because the average temperature has increased doesn’t mean its never going to snow again lol
Hmm, the NYTimes said that snow was a thing of the past!! LOL
Seems that all the cold temperatures and all that snow landing on the liberal east coast (with their huge array of “human caused global warming nut-cases) might well be seen as God laughing at them. We haven’t had any warming for the last 19 years now and these clowns are still pushing their nonsense.
Can you post a link to a source for those assertions?
Hopefully the author could solicit a comment from the lying, demoRAT-COMMUNIST party, hack operative and colossal fraud, algore.
Name one “Commie” in govt or any position of power or authority
How about comrade osamaobama.
LOL….you mean the guy that gave us a 100% PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT health plan with no PUBLIC OPTION (the antithesis of Marxism/Communism), extended the Bush-era tax cuts for the ultra RICH, twice, and never bothered putting anyone from Wall Street in jail for 2008? If anything, he’s one of the most pro-corporate Presidents we’ve ever had. Perhaps you should actually learn the definition of Communism before you embarrass yourself any further…
You have a very interesting take on the federal government takeover of the American health care system and history.
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What would you call comrade osamaobama’s “redistribution of wealth” and “social justice?” These are cornerstones of communism.
As the northern part of the United States gets colder, it could drive the illegal Latrinos south again. They don’t like the cold
it’s interesting as i am sure during the ice age start the northern part of the land and the southern half also had decades like this at the start.. could we be seeing another ice age coming? it would take thousands of years for the massive glacier to form. so not only are we leaving are kids and future americans a much poorer life but a rather cold and deep snow to live through! but don’t tell that to obama and his kind they still think we are going to sweat allot in the heat! of course while they enjoy air conditioning!
“The Earth has a Fever” – Al Gore
Reverend Al is not amused.
This has to be wrong. We are suffering under the weight of global warming. Al Gore won a Noble Prize for uncovering it and he wouldn’t lie. sarc/
What such nonsense …………………… IT IS WINTER . . .. . DEAL WITH IT!
Question: If both increasing temperatures AND increasing snowfall prove the existence of global warming, how can anyone tell if any of the Left’s “solutions” are actually effective?
Global Warming is a Real Bitch!!!!
Climate change is caused by the sum. Wait, it’s termites. No wait, cow methane. Nah, we can’t tax any of that. I know, lets say it’s human activities. Sounds great Al.
AGW and science is an oxymoron
Well… it’s the fault of “Global Warming”. Just ask the Obozo ‘administration’.
A man wearing a sandwich board saying “the end of the world is near”, has more credibility than climate models.
Too little snow global warming, too little the same. too cold the same, too warm the same, hurricanes global warming no global warming, Gas p[rices low Obama good, Gas prices high Bush’s fault and on and on. Isn’t it great and so simple to be a liberal, especially in Govt and the media and Academia? they never ever have to think again.
But wait what about climate change and the warmest year on record nonsense. Hope the blizzard knocks your power out for a week you idiots.
The earth is preparing for global warming by hurrying up and getting all the snowing over with. The earth is now quickly running out of snow. This may be the last snow we see, at least until Al Gore and Barack Obama can repair the climate.
For all those who think that Global Warming has anything to
do with this blizzard, or that this storm is unprecedented, pick up a history
book. You will find that in March of 1888 most of the northeast was hit by a blizzard
that dumped over 50 inches of snow, caused millions of dollars in damage, and
caused over 200 deaths.
Opinions and loyalties are bought with grants and cash. Hot summer global warming,cold winter global warming sure makes sense to me. Climate changes all the time and will in the future. WE had a ice age because the earth knew in advance global warming was coming. Whatever happened to the holes in the ozone must not be any money in that since I got my new refrigerator.
GLOBAL WARMING SNOW
Hot house cases like oxygen are causing all the snow storms. This is why Democrats have planes to cut the US population by 200 million.
More proof that Al “Blood’n” Gore was right. The hotter it gets, the colder it gets. We just need to pay Al a billion dollars in carbon taxes and we’ll all be saved!
No it’s actually not, but climate change scientists have to spread the word since they’ve already been paid. Apparently everyone forgot the 5-15 feet of snow around 2004 in about 20 states. It seems scientists have no concept of time. Why should I trust their BS climate change?
NASA, THE ONCE SPACE PEOPLE REPORTED THAT 2014 WAS THE WARMEST YEAR IN HISTORY
They predicted 2015 will be even warmer than 2014.
And I’m sure that somewhere else on the planet there’s snow drought in the 2010s–what’s their point?
Ozone Hole –>
Global Warming –>
Climate Change –>
Climate Disruption –>
Magnetic Pole Shift
Climate scientists speculate that the resulting Magnetic Pole Shift will result in one of 3 scenarios:
1) Global Extinction
2) Massive meteor strikes
3) A Godzilla-like creature will be awakened
Smoke and mirrors. When I’m freezing my mind says…..global warming!! Well I’m freezing and that is the key. Even tho we see the weather. Lie, lie and heck lie some more…..more ice thicker ice. Worldwide huge increaes in short periods now occuring. Check ice core. Weather has cycled for centuries. But oh how they want to tax co2. Every exhale will cost you times the miles driven per year squared for suv
While I wouldn’t want to see 3 feet of snow fall on anybody in a few days, and I don’t like shoveling snow, we could certainly use a little bit of that snow here in the Midwest, where it’s been really dry for the last month or so. We could use the moisture.
LOL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFTm6cJXM
The Gruberbat cult strikes again!
The Word of God says satan comes to steal.kiII and destroy and so does his son the filthy gay muslim obama…
BOOK OF DANIEL
The King Who Exalts Himself
36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.[d]
40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at[f] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.
2 Thessalonians 2:8
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
The real danger to America is not just a filthy gay muslim by the name of Obama alone, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a filthy sodomite like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a gay Obama presidency than to restore the necessary,commonsense ,Godliness and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a creature for their president or any democrat.
The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr.gay muslim Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the gay fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. “The Republic can survive a gay Obama, who is, after all, merely a gay fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made this gay muslim creature their President.
the Gore effect
You have to wonder if he is going to CRACK and JUMP off the ROOF one day ??? LOL
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You have to REALIZE that if they will LIE about one thing they will LIE about EVERYTHING ELSE…….. BEWARE of the Main Street Media…..
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Still trying to figure out why the Left thinks colder is better. Throughout history mankind has flourished during warm periods and suffered during cold, and yet the Left longs for snow pack.
Weird.
In January Al Gore says heavy snow is consistent with Global Warming, in August Al Gore says hot summers are consistent with Global Warming, Al Gore says temperate Springs and Autumns are consistent with Global Warming. While standing in the Mojave Desert Al Gore said hot deserts are consistent with Global Warming. While standing on a Glacier in Greenland Al Gore said Glaciers are consistent with Global Warming. Please pay the man as you leave the theater, and thank you for coming to the Al Gore everything is all about Global Warming Tour.
New York gets three feet of snow and today in Minneapolis the ice rinks have melted, the roads are bare asphalt. I stopped at a small bar and grill in South Minneapolis today and next to my pickup the grass was bare of snow and I noted a bunch of green blades of grass pushing up. It was 45 degrees today. Next week though we could get 10 inches of snow and it could be 3 below. Climate change. It keeps on happening.
don’t forget the woolly worms
Has anyone else noticed that pretty much 100% of the argument for manmade global warming is based upon fictional models?
Been thinking about it. All of you who dis global warming never provide hard facts as to why it does not exist. You merely point out anecdotal stories about local climate change. I find you to be non-thinking troglidate thuinkers who cannot provide one cogent study or finding to back up their thoughts. It makes me very concerned for mankind that people like you are even allowed to vote. Anyone have a good source in defense of the argument that there is not global warming??? Huh…do you? If so, please give it to me. If not , please quit with your ignorant remarks
you are the one that is required to prove beyond a doubt that it exists