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The sun has gone quiet…solar cycle 24 continues to rank as one of the weakest cycles more than a century

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The sun has gone quiet…solar cycle 24 continues to rank as one of the weakest cycles more than a century

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Overview Ten days ago, the sun was quite active and peppered with several large spots. Now the sun has gone quiet and it is nearly completely blank. It appears that the solar maximum phase for solar cycle 24 may have been reached and it is not very impressive. It looks as if this solar cycle is “double-peaked” (see below) which is not all that uncommon; however, it is somewhat rare that the second peak in sunspot number during the solar max phase is larger than the first. In fact, this solar cycle continues to rank among the weakest on record which continues the recent trend for increasingly weaker cycles. The current predicted and observed size makes this the smallest sunspot cycle since Cycle 14 which had a maximum of 64.2 in February of 1906. Going back to 1755, there have been only a few solar cycles in the previous 23 that have had a lower number of sunspots during its maximum phase. For this reason, many solar researchers are calling this current solar maximum a “mini-max”. Solar cycle 24 began after an unusually deep solar minimum that lasted from 2007 to 2009. In fact, in 2008 and 2009, there were almost no sunspots, a very unusual situation during a solar minimum phase that had not happened for almost a century.

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Consequences of a weak solar cycle First, the weak solar cycle has resulted in rather benign “space weather” in recent times with generally weaker-than-normal geomagnetic storms. By all Earth-based measures of geomagnetic and geoeffective solar activity, this cycle has been extremely quiet. However, there is some evidence that most large events such as strong solar flares and significant geomagnetic storms tend to occur in the declining phase of the solar cycle. In other words, there is still a chance for significant solar activity in the months and years ahead.

Second, it is pretty well understood that solar activity has a direct impact on temperatures at very high altitudes in a part of the Earth’s atmosphere called the thermosphere. This is the biggest layer of the Earth’s atmosphere which lies directly above the mesosphere and below the exosphere. Thermospheric temperatures increase with altitude due to absorption of highly energetic solar radiation and are highly dependent on solar activity.

Finally, if history is a guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a negative impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom-most layer of Earth’s atmosphere – and where we all live. There have been two notable historical periods with decades-long episodes of low solar activity. The first period is known as the “Maunder Minimum”, named after the solar astronomer Edward Maunder, and it lasted from around 1645 to 1715. The second one is referred to as the “Dalton Minimum”, named for the English meteorologist John Dalton, and it lasted from about 1790 to 1830. Both of these historical periods coincided with below-normal global temperatures in an era now referred to by many as the “Little Ice Age”. In addition, research studies in just the past couple of decades have found a complicated relationship between solar activity, cosmic rays, and clouds on Earth. This research suggests that in times of low solar activity where solar winds are typically weak; more cosmic rays reach the Earth’s atmosphere which, in turn, has been found to lead to an increase in certain types of clouds that can act to cool the Earth.

Outlook  The increasingly likely outcome for an historically weak solar cycle continues the recent downward trend in sunspot cycle strength that began over twenty years ago during solar cycle 22. If this trend continues for the next couple of cycles, then there would likely be more talk of another “grand minimum” for the sun. Some solar scientists are already predicting that the next solar cycle, #25, will be even weaker than this current one. However, it is just too early for high confidence in these predictions since some solar scientists believe that the best predictor of future solar cycle strength involves activity at the sun’s poles during a solar minimum and the next solar minimum is still likely several years away.

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1171 COMMENTS

  1. I wonder if the mainstream media will report this article.

    As we all know, Global Warming was nothing more than a confiscation of taxpayers money.

    Global Warming, Scam of the Century. Senator Inhoffe from Oklahoma wrote a book on this subject. He was absolutely correct, this is a SCAM. Designed to take our money. Al Gore should be embarrassed.

    • It is hard to take a politician seriously when they back such questionable science as man made global warming (climate change now to cover their rears). Unfortunately, we are stuck with Barry Soetoro Hussein Barack Baracka Obama.

  2. from =2006:

    Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now [Feb 2006], when global warming caused by increased solar activity in the 20th century reaches its peak,

  3. Let me see if I understand….The Sun produces less heat….and the Earth gets cooler….Has anyone called the U.N. for confirmation? We must spend a couple of billion dollars to study this phenomenon. Call Al Gore quick, we need someone with his laser like ability to focus on this hereto Un-explainable event.

  4. See what we’ve done now? Our disregards for our atmosphere has even effected the Sun. No wonder we’re in the emergency throws of Global Warming, auh, I mean Climate Change, auh, I mean,,, auh, ,,,,,,,,,, I need some help here Uncle Al Goria. Can I get some help here Al?

  5. We are screwed! Millions of people will perish due to the cold and starvation. The only way to counter this is to pump CO2 into the air. Reopen the coal mines and burn mega tons of coal to power this economy and it will help to keep the temperatures from plummeting.

  6. WILL SOMEONE CALL BIG AL, AND TELL HIM TO GIVE BACK THAT NOBEL PRIZE HE GOT FOR BEING THE BIGGEST LIAR AND USING THE SCARE TACTICS THAT MADE HIM A REAL LARGE MILLIONAIRE. THAT GUY IS A DISGRACE TO THE WORLD. HE’S MADE A FORTUNE ON THIS CHANGEING THE WEATHER , WHEN ONLY MOTHER NATURE KNOWS WHAT’S COMING OUR WAY ON ANY GIVING DAY….BY THE WAY, GET RID OF THE OTHER GUY THAT BACKED HIM UP ALL THE WAY, AND ALSO GOT A NOBEL PRIZE

  7. Due to Global Warming the sun is cooling! Turns out the sun objects to automobile exhaust and carbon dioxide in the ozone layer…or “Climate Change” as the wacko-environmentalist refer to it! When we tried to contact the sun…Sol was not available for comment. In other related news, California Governor Jerry “Drool-cup” Brown was urging legislators to pass a cap and trade, carbon tax on the sun until the sun started to warm back up! “I’m tellin’ ya…it worked in the dinosaur era when the sun objected to all that dino-flatulence warming the globe! I know for a fact cuz I was there! We taxed him reeeal good!” Tomorrow’s follow up article: “Is the moon way too cool to warm up to the idea of Moonal Warming…or is it just being coy!?”

  8. As one who has long been skeptical of the alarmist AGW case, I find it disturbing that with an historically weak solar cycle, temperatures have not declined. So they have plateaued. That’s great. But all other things being equal, shouldn’t temperatures have already started to decline…or not. Knowledgeable guidance would be appreciated.

    • Wellllllll…. you have heard how they are fudging the temperature date, right? You have been paying attention to this, right? That they are cherry-picking which monitoring stations to actually monitor, and then “modelling” the data for the rest… and you know how good all their models are, right?

      So, is your assertion that temperatures have not declined actually a factual statement? ….

      • I don’t know. The only claim made from skeptical scientists that I’m aware of is that temps have plateaued, not fallen.As an example look at the link above, which reads, “Global Temperature Standstill Lengthens…”. So I assume there isn’t strong evidence that we have entered a period of declining temps. But I could be wrong.

        My question was more directed to where we are in this declining solar cycle relative to when temps started to drop in previous cycles. Maybe we aren’t even at that point yet, but if we are, and all we’ve gotten is a cessation of the warming, I think that would be troublesome. Maybe not.

        I’m raising questions I don’t know the answer to, not making assertions. I just want to better understand the implications of solar activity to the underlying question of actual sensitivity of temperature to carbon levels. It does seem apparent that the AGW models which are now in danger of falling out of their probability cones attributed too much to carbon to the exclusion of other factors. But if solar activity is reaching historical lows and we’re still bobbing along the top end of historical temp variations ( and I know about the MWP and all that), is this something that should concern us?

    • You need to try and keep up! It was recently announced that not only had at least one government agency been caught playing with the actual historical temp data, they had also very quietly put the real numbers back in place that in fact showed there has been cooling!

  9. This is terrible!! This may enable people to drive SUVs and use hair spray without guilt. Maybe the president needs to take executive action to make sure that people’s freedoms are not restored.

  10. Interesting how the people who have been right about this Global Warming nonsense for a decade are still ridiculed as stupid and anti Science, while all the Leftist dopes and sheep who were duped into believing this nonsense still held up as our ‘best and brightest’.

  11. Warmers are gonna freeze. Gee… we did try to tell them this “anthropogenic global warming” poodoo was just that. POO. Liberals really are just that gullible, they believe what ever their masters tell them to.

  12. And all of the learned Climate Scientists still can’t think of a reason why 2013-2014 was one of the coldest winters on record, and why the antarctic sea ice pack is at record levels…..
    did the “heat hiding in the oceans” make more ice?

  13. I’m not looking forward to this coming winter, last winter was terrible and it seems it’s going to be even worse this year. Makes you want to choke any of these liberal fools who scream about global warming. Freakin idiots.

  14. Repeat after me: Man is causing global destruction. Man is causing the earth to warm. The arctic, antacrtic and all the glaciers will melt. The oceans will rise 200 feet and flood all the continents. Mankind will die out……repeat….Man is causing global destruction. Man is causing the earth……….OH DARN! You aren’t listening to me. Who are you gonna believe, algore or…..? Looks like common sense may overtake ‘scientific concensus’ after all.

  15. The revelation that evil humans may not be responsible for the heating and cooling cycles of the Earth is terrible news for the human-guilt liberal Democrats. Maybe they can shift the blame to Bush or fracking.

  16. There is an easy fix for this, actually two..one is to no longer use bullets in guns, lead, copper, or anything else. Two, We clearly need to build a large wall, like the one to stop tornados, this wall can be insulated to keep the heat in, so this devious sun can no longer screw up our computer models for global warming…………….sarc

  17. It’s truly pathetic how many millions of brain damaged, obama voting, libtard imbeciles still think atmospheric temperatures are warming. Curious to see how long they will stay in a state of denial while temperatures really start to drop.

  18. The sun affects global temperatures more than anything man can do. Global warming folks are looking even more foolish each day as they refuse to look at the true causes to changes in climate.

      • Exactly. It is man made. Just look at how hot it is during the day and how it cools down at night. It coincides exactly with rush hour traffic. All the cars in the morning cause the temperature to rise. After they go home in afternoon the temperature cools down. We need to fix this with higher taxes and more government agencies creating more regulations…sarc.

  19. What passes for serious science, politics and economics debate these days reminds me of the discussions we had when I was in second grade. Al gore is the poster child for pseudo intellectuals.

  20. The progressive elite will come up with a new narrative to explain how this is caused by human behavior that must be regulated. They won’t readily give up the control they’ve grabbed based on fears of “climate change”. In fact, there’s probably a UN sub-committee working on a new theory as we speak. Something about bovine flatulence disrupting solar energy, so, therefore, meat consumption must be eliminated.

  21. Would it be safe to say we should all start burning more coal and increase the amount of whatever it is in the atmosphere that causes global warming? Heck, if Al Gore is right, we don’t need the sun to keep us warm, we can do it by ourselves.

  22. This should be proof to any sane person that the sun has WAY more effect on earth’s climate than anything man could ever do (shy of lighting off every nuke in existence). When will the global warming alarmists give up??

  23. “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
    with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
    changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.“ – Club of Rome, premier environmental think-tank, consultants to the United Nations

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)

    • Mr. Strong may be on to something. Collapse civilization, ridding the planet of half its population. Works for me as I have a year round garden and slaughter animals on five acres of land with water.

  24. You can’t believe those crazy astronomers. They obviously didn’t get the memo.
    As we all know, it’s an established “fact” that 97% of scientists agree that AGW is real and happening now.
    One pesky little detail keeps getting in their way, however: Not one verifiable account of supposed “AGW” has ever been proven.
    The sun is cooling…Rubbish. That doesn’t fit the narrative so it’s obviously false.

    • Ding dong, Da oshenz be reseedin’, mudda natcha be dansin in da flowahs, da birdz be singun, trees be treeun, it be a new worl,. obamah fix’d da worl, he reseed’d da oshenz, praiz be ta obamah, he da mahn, mahn. Weez ohz i’ all ta himz.obamah, hmmmmmm, mmmmm, hmmmmm, mmmmm uuhhh!
      Time to celebrate, have a barbecued bark samich, some weed sproutz and dried twigs, along with a mud shake, hmmmmm, hummmm! Thanks to moochelle and getting us straight on how to eat.

  25. Airline pilots were made aware of strong solar acitivity in the mid 90s. Concerns for higher latitudes and altitudes for extended periods became a concern to many that did some cursory personal flight planning. The airline managements wanted to know nothing about it for obvious reasons. Solar activity hot lines were available to those with interest in solar action and flares and the information was available to the public. Resultant warming should have come as no surprise and indeed many true meteorologists have been aware of solar influence. Its the press and lame public research that have allowed the central planners to take control of the topic.

  26. The inmates are in charge of the Asylum.
    .
    Under NORMAL circumstances, The Climate Alarmists would be called out as the TIN FOIL HAT SOCIETY.
    Instead they try their damnedest to be IN CHARGE by fakery of proclamation.
    .
    97% Consensus, MY BUTT. Obama’s TARP funded a FAKE consensus now that they are willing to PAY FOR PHONY RESEARCH by paying through the EPA’s MULTI-BILLION $$$$ fund. You can buy ANYTHING with that kind of cash. All the STARVING scientists have to do is WHORE their profession with LIES. It is how it was done for the past 25 years.
    .
    AL GORE is a WHORE. He FLUNKED SCIENCE in College.
    .

  27. Make a note of this, you heard it here first. The next thing the climate alarmists will say is, “Well, global warming was so intense that it has temporarily exhausted itself, and now we have a cooling trend.” You heard it here first.

    • See, marxists are very easy to read. If it is an issue that will promote their brain fl_ucked agenda, they jump on it like flies on a marxist.
      Hello, hello America, you have been scammed, by obama, clintons, reid , pelosi, the main stream media, all in order for the marxists to turn the world over to the most useless, inept, incompetent u.n., it is all about the money, and the marxists’ redistribution of money, food, and water is all going to the same vile, evil, p.o.s. that created this worldwide debacle.

  28. It would be refreshing to hear global warming hysterics celebrate the luck of some weak solar cycles and spread the good news the the earth is not warming. But I won’t I hold my breath.

    It reveals that they really do root for bad news – the new apocalyptics have a lot in common with their medieval counterparts.

    Sick, really.

  29. The tea party has invented ‘global warming’ to scare people and to gain new recruits. How can there be global warming if its colder this summer in America? NO SUCH THING. Also, somebody please get that dictator out of the oval office.

  30. A news reporter as a pretty young blonde woman, “What planet would you most like to visit?’

    “I would go to the Sun.”

    “But you would burn up.”

    “Silly, not if I go at night.”

  31. …um…yes, that’s Gore, G-o-r-e…yeah, I’ve been trying to get through to get reservations on that first flight to Rio tomorrow with all my embezzlings but I’m snowed in here at Jose Marti Airport in Havana and the icebreakers haven’t arrived yet to clear a water escape from Guantanamo Bay…can you help…?

  32. Finally the end to yet another hoax, its easy to dupe people who don’t have a grasp on history or do their own investigations – sheeple that would rather take the government packaged crap than true science… Al Gore should be held liable…and the rest of the scammers making a living and lining their pockets off of a bunch of bullcrud.

  33. But…but how on earth are the global warming liars, charlatans, and totalitarians going to control and extort untold $billions from the American taxpayer? All around them, there is AMPLE evidence that this is all a crock. Yet, they still push their lies. Control and endless money are very powerful. Get back to me when screeching hysterics like Al Gore and Prince Charles drastically downsize their lifestyles because of the enormous carbon footprints they create. Ten, 20, 30 times that of the average person. Yeah, we *must act NOW!”

  34. Maybe that’s why we’re experiencing much cooler temps throughout the nation! Like I’ve always said, you listening Global Warming Kooks? The Sun controls our weather, always has and always will!
    Barry’s climate agenda is bogus, it’s just another rook to confiscate more tax money! There’s no such thing as Global Warming!

  35. It is pointless to pile on the AGW crowd at this point; reason and observation has no meaning in their dogma. To cold? Global warming. Too wet? Global warming. Too many hurricanes? Global warming. Too few hurricanes? Global warming. Bad economy? Global warming. The globe hasn’t warmed in nearly 20 years? Global warming. Snowed in at the Global Warming conference? Global warming. A perrennially weak NBA Eastern Conference? Global warming.

    Ad infinitum.

  36. Excuse me, but flooding ALL & ONLY white countries with millions of foreign-race immigrants and telling everyone to “assimilate” (intermarry) to create a “blended humanity” (but ONLY in white countries) IS white genocide.
    Asia will still be full of asians,
    Africa will still be full of africans,
    Only white children will suffer from this insanity.
    Except “anti-racists” don’t call it genocide when they chase down white children and white areas; they call it “Diversity.”
    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.
    “Diversity” is a codeword for white genocide.

  37. That’s why it’s no longer called global warming. It’s now referred to as climate change (or some other BS). All the supposed evidence is supposed to prove that man is responsible even though the earth is cooling, and there was a dramatic spike in temperatures during the middle ages when no one owned SUV’s or burned coal in power plants.

  38. We are currently living in the warm “Holocene” interglacial period which will likely end in 7,000-10,000 years at which time the Earth’s current ongoing Ice Age will resume.

    This interglacial pattern has been going on for quite some time (it has a periodicity of about 100,000 years).

    Extending this “warm” Holocene interglacial period will certainly be advantageous to any future human populations. Farm food production will drastically be curtailed as the glaciers begin their advance across the continents. You will not be alive to see this, of course.

  39. Climate = THE WEATHER prevailing in an area. Google Climate Definition.
    Democrats are so stupid that they are just now figuring out that THE WEATHER CHANGES…..they still want to tax working people for it though…..

  40. Liberals cannot help themselves. Not only do they want to control everything, they THINK they can control everything. As if some more taxes are going to make the sun burn at a different temperature.

  41. Perhaps the article could have mentioned that the previous many decades had much more solar activity than the historical average, and using history as a guide correlates with the slight increase in average worldwide temps during that time?

  42. All this science, is so confusing. Can’t we go back to just blaming God for everything??

    We have much more to learn, is funny that the solar cycle stuff is new to so many, same ones who haven’t been following REAL news last decade or so.

    Those who didn’t get their news through a political strainer have known about this for a while, and have been concerned at the apathy and unwillingness of people to even TRY to understand….

    Is just easier if God were happy or sad and we just base it all on that….

  43. By the time this tool of a President finishes this term, it will be 20 years with no global warning.
    Which means we’ll have college kids graduating with no global warming during their lifetime.
    Now does anyone believe the [email protected] won’t still be preaching it?

  44. Global Warming — SOLVED!! We did it! We just changed the level of activity of the Sun!

    How, you may ask? Heisenberg, of course! When one seeks to observe, measure, something, one actually affects that thing being observed.

    All you Global Warming adherents — if you want more control over the sun, to heal the planet some more, please observe the Sun more. Stare into it. Stare long and deep.

  45. Really? Not many months ago. I mean weeks ago. We were all being warned to be watchful of SOLAR FLARES that would disrupt OUR LIVES around the Earth. When will somebody get the courage…I mean Gonads to commit AL GORE to his CARBON FOOTPRINT….Rubber Room? Some place where he can CHOKE on his own distorted, vacuum between his ears, and anus?

  46. Look at the position “climate change” activists and “scientists” are now in. They either have to admit that lack of solar activity cools the earth, or that rising CO2 levels might be cooling the earth. So they go with the sun for obvious reasons. But then will they be arguing that the sun can only cool the earth, not warm it and CO2 still causes global warming. It’s getting to be like an argument with a child who is a bad liar. They’ll have themselves in knots trying to explain this away.

  47. For the last couple of years, the administration & its American-enemy buddies have been hawking phony articles about how ordinary solar activity, such as sunspots & solar flares, was going to wipe us all out, when really what they were planning was an EMP (or series of them) that they were going to ~blame on~ the sun. Well, it sure looks to me like they can’t get away with such a scheme if the sun runs a quiet solar cycle or two, so they can’t hide behind it. Boo hoo hoo.

  48. I would literally bet money that you could convince the dimwits who think humans control earth’s climate, that they are also responsible for what happens on the sun. Imagine the sun begins to cool. You tell these lemmings that the reason the sun is cooling is due to all of those solar panels they’ve installed. The panels are using up all of the suns energy and draining it. Shame on sun abusers! Wasting all of that sunlight! I’m telling you, without a doubt, these sheep could be convinced of it with the right con man. Just like Al Gore and Prince Charles do to them everyday.
    “A fool and his money should have never met to begin with”- Harry Anderson

  49. In 1979 a study of 500 years of redwood tree rings predicted almost exactly the temperature variations between 1979 and 2014, unlike all the failed CO2 climate models. That tree ring study predicts that the earth might cool another 1C to 3C by 2045. The cooling/warming cycles of the last 165 years means we are 12 years into a 31 year cooling trend, exactly like we have been experiencing. So a Catastrophic Global Cooling (CGC) is imminent.

    The cool climate will adversely affect crop yields. However the increase in CO2 we are experiencing has increased the crops’ resistance to current cold climate. Therefore, to increase the crops’ resistance to the CGC, we need to spend billions INCREASING anthropogenic CO2 above the 3% of the CO2 we are now producing.

  50. Oh! My! What ever shall we do about this. What CAN we do about this. QUICK. Find a progressive. Ask them. Tell them it is affecting the minorities the most. They will know what to do. They ALWAYS know what to do. [sarc off]
    The ALGOR curse strikes again. He goes to a global warming pep rally in Australia. They have low temperatures there that they have not seen in over 100 years. ROTFLMFAO

  51. The sun is responsible for about 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of heat on earth. Any truly intelligent person has to realize that the sun in irrelevant in climate studies. BWAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!! But hey, if someone gave me 100’s of millions of bucks to tell them what they wanted to hear, I just might do the same…just lie and summit invalid data. Probably not though, I am a dinosaur and still believe in scientific integrity and integrity in general. BTW, the number you see above is highly accurate. Go ahead, try to prove the sun is not responsible for heat on earth, and please…include your data for once so it can be reviewed.

  52. I’m sure glad these “scientists” have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to anything I believe in politically.

    When it comes to my cell phone, computer, GPS, satellite TV, ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, rockets to the moon and Google Maps I am sure glad they know what they are talking about.

  53. If you, really want to understand what is transpiring on Sol, google “The Maunder Minimum”, and the truth will set you free! Yes, we are sliding headlong into a cycle of weather extremes, alas it not warming its cooling. And the progressives running the climate change side show know it! As the obama administration curtails our use of coal(it only supplies 55% of the countries energy) we will be unable to heat our homes or cook. As an aside the coal mined in America is being shipped to China; and here I was under the impression we were experiencing “GLOBAL WARMING” ? i guess China is another planet or dimension?

  54. Surely their computer models knew this cycle would occur and all future projections are correctly based on this already-anticipated cycle, so they will continue to be right on everything, as they have been all along.

  55. Hey, maybe it turns out that Time was right back in the 70s…
    Niven/Pournelle wrote a SciFi book – Falling Angels? – that was a near future scenario where leftists got control of the US government and enacted global warming targeted laws. As a result, greenhouse gasses were mitigated and the climate cooled, to the point that —
    **Spoiler Alert **
    **Spoiler Alert**
    Minneapolis was buried in snow year-round.

    Edit: Oh, well, fat lot of good putting all the LFs in there to hopefully warn about the spoiler did…

  56. About 12 to15 years ago a couple of Sovies solar scientists said this was going to happen and the earth would cool. As I remember they even were willing to bet a very large sum of money that the earth would cool rather than warm. No global warmist took them up on the offer.
    All the ocean currents, nina, baby ninia, hurricanes, cold winters, warm winters, high winds and so on and so on are simply a distribution of the suns energy. They are NOT the cause of any global warming or cooling, they are the result of heat being radiated out of the earths bubble and heat being radiated into the earths bubble. There are a few other mechanisms that can affect the overall quantity of heat in the bubble, but they are relative minor compared to what is radiated in and out.

  57. When they can produce a climate model that accurately predicts current trends, then we can talk.

    Everything so far has been hype, hysteria, and outrageous, unfounded speculation.

    The polar bears are dying. Coffee and chocolate are going to go extinct. AIDS is going to explode.

    They seem to believe that making wild and unsubstantiated claims about the future climate will scare us into action. NOTE To Climate Nazis: your hysterics aren’t helping your cause.

  58. Panic in the streets!!!!! We must tax every one so the sun will brighten back up. Its all that Co2 we are emitting.
    Last summer solar activity was suppose to peak at a 11 year cycle high. Instead it dropped to a 100 year low and now this summer its dropped even lower. Looks like this is the cycle that syncs with the ice ages of past. So instead of GW we are actually going into another ice age. Sorry for all you Ynakees. No coal to keep you warm .And no coal power plants to provide electricity.

  59. There is a direct correlation with sun spots and heating/cooling of the earth. During the 1990s solar flares were numerous and huge…X class. During that time earth was warming but so was every planet in the solar system to include Pluto which was moving away from the sun. This is fact. During the lull, temperatures are dropping. The little ice age was associated with the longest period of no activity on the sun in recorded history. Fact again. To claim man made global warming is beyond arrogance and shows science doesn’t know everything and has been polluted be the cancer of political correctness. The debate is far from over

  60. I’m sure glad these “scientists” have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to anything I believe in politically.

    When it comes to my cell phone, computer, GPS, satellite TV, CAT scans, ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, rockets to the moon and Google Maps I am sure glad they know what they are talking about..

  61. The two pictures are a bit misleading. The sun rotates with a synodic period of 26.24 days, so the sunspots seen on July 6 have rotated out of view. The question is, how many will still be there in another 11 or 12 days when that area again comes into view.
    Sun spots have a great effect on long distance communications. When sun spot numbers are high, the layers of the ionosphere become heavely ionized which cause radio transmissions in the 2 to 30 mHz range to bounce or skip long distances. The is the phenomonum that ham radio operators use to talk with other ham radio operators around the world.

  62. The real irony here is that mankind really is unable to significantly increase the atmospheric concentration of CO2 in any real measurable way.

    To put it in perspective, the ‘global warming’ crowd that believe mankind is somehow responsible put forward that at least 80 million years ago atmospheric CO2 was probably around 1,500ppm which resulted in a lush, warmer environment that was no more than 10 degree’s Celsius warmer than now. (Which, if you’ll recall, this was during the height of speciation on Earth.) This is the AGW Global Warming crowd that put forward this number. It is important to remember other estimations of this number are -much higher-.

    What is the concentration of atmospheric CO2 today? Roughly 400ppm.

    During the glacial era a concentration of CO2 at or around 180ppm has been credited with reducing active plant life. This is also according to the Carbon Hawks themselves.

    So ask yourself this question: Are we closer to the -minimum- of CO2 required for all life on Earth to exist,
    or closer to the high range where life is absolutely known for a fact to have flourished?

    Asking questions doesn’t kill anyone. Limiting carbon emissions, which are a direct result of -necessary- power
    generation, kills hundreds of thousands of people a year.

    So who is the monster here? The ‘deniers’ or the masters of the asylum?

    When did science stop being skeptical of unproven theories?

  63. We are supposed to be in , sun cycles, a solar maximum. This cycle should play out with very strong solar energies. Instead we are seeing solar energies at an extremely low level. If this is the peak of the 11 year solar max, then we will, most certainly see solar energies, degrading much further as the solar minimum cycle plays out over the next 11 years. Study the Maunder Minimum Period for more info.

  64. The Left will be loathe to accept this, and will ignore it as long as it can, for several reasons. Trial lawyers can’t sue the sun; there’s no money to be made off of it. Second, it can’t be traced to anything man-made; there’s no guilt that can be applied to solar activity. And three, it’s always easier if Bush did it.

  65. So now it’s an Ice Age, again, tailor-made and tee’d up for someone’s political agenda. Last time it was used to put the North American Free Trade Agreement through, by scaring Americans into believing they’d all eventually have to move to Mexico, so we’d better keep ’em happy! Then Global Warming comes along, to be used as a way to scare us all into electric cars, carbon credits and crappy lightbulbs. Now another Ice Age scare. Wonder what they’ll use it for this time. One World Government? Outsource food production to the Southern Hemisphere so the Northerner’s don’t starve, to take out the last of the American farmers? One can only guess.

  66. I expect soon that the PR department of the “Climate Change” crowd will start timing their press releases according to solar activity observations. Meanwhile their “scientists” will still be tweaking their computer models while hell freezes over.

  67. But the libertards still mewl and bleat that the Earf is getting warmer! We’re hotter, we’re colder, we’re hotter, someone make up their mind please.

    As for me, climate change DOES occur…spring to summer to fall to winter and then oddly enough, back again!

  68. When will the One World Government-UN is God crowd shift gears and demand international collective action to halt global cooling. Surely there must be a way to tax it and undermine national sovereignty in the process.

  69. Who knew? A stronger solar cycle, warmer temperatures, a weaker cycle, cooler temperatures… so you’re telling me it’s the sun that may be warming and cooling the earth? That’s ridiculous! Everyone knows it’s people changing global temperatures… I’m certain the science has been settled and everyone knows The Sky is Falling…

  70. Thank goodness for the high CO2 content. It will save us from an ice age. You are not going to hear this information from the old mainstream media. They have their heads up Obama’s a## and the only thing they can see in there is global warming.

  71. What? The sun has something to do with how warm it is on earth? Who knew? Get me AlGore on the phone so he can explain it to me. Oh yeah. He’s freezing his a** off in Australia at the moment.

  72. What this seems to mean is that a period of quiet sun related weather is likely to work against local conditions on Earth that have resulted in a warming trend, resulting in a period of cooler weather in spite of local influences that would otherwise continue a warming trend. This relief may last a few years or even for decades, but is not permanent. It essentially gives us more time to clean up our act before ultimately sun activity cycles back to a peak and compounds our local conditions rather than alleviates them. I believe we have been warming – I can see ice loss, plant and animal range migration, and storm activity that indicates that it has been warming on average for quite some time, even if you question climate studies and thermometer readings. I also think it is unreasonable to believe that with the extent of human impact on the environment (again, readily observable), that part of the climate equation is not human activity. It’s fair to debate the extent of that impact, but I don’t think its reasonable to argue that there aren’t many things we could do better, resulting in a healthier place to live.

  73. I’m sure glad these “scientists” have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to anything I believe in politically.

    When it comes to my cell phone, computer, GPS, satellite TV, CAT scans, ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, rockets to the moon and Google Maps I am sure glad they know what they are talking about

    • Not to mention the geothermal energy from inside the Earth. People who think the molecule thin (by comparison) film of atmosphere on the surface has any impact on global temperatures are insane. The heat radiating up thru the rocks and the sun’s rays totally determine earth temperature balance, not mankind manipulating a few molecules at the surface.

        • If the Democrats ever decide to advance space exploration their financing method will be to just Tax Gravity, so there’s is an incentive to get off the planet to avoid said tax. But since only the Rich can afford spacecraft they will be to blame for “keeping everybody else down, on the planet”… figuratively and literally.

      • Well, I don’t know enough about geothermal energy, but you are correct about the atmosphere.

        If the earth is modeled as a sphere 12 inches in diameter, the difference between the polar and equatorial diameters would be 1/16 of an inch, the International Space Station would fly approximately 3/8 of an inch above the sphere’s surface, and most of the earth’s atmosphere will be contained within the first 1/16-inch above the surface of the 12-inch model of the earth.

        The moon would be about 3.25 inches in diameter, orbiting 30 feet away from the earth, and the sun would be a huge 109-foot sphere, 2.2 miles away from the earth.

  74. The chart showing the predicted number of sunspots is wrong. The original predictions are much different than what is shown on the chart. Also, the monthly predictions are changed to align with the observed number of sunspots after the events have occurred. There is a certain level of dishonesty with the predictions and how they are maintained.

    Robert Zimmerman has been tracking the predictions and the observations over at his blog Behind the Black, http://behindtheblack.com/the-sun-continues-its-ramp-down/

    It is important to note that all of the predictions have been wrong. No one even predicted a double peak or knows why there was a double peak. What comes next is anyone’s guess but we know one thing for sure, that no one knows anything.

      • Just like the fact that there is no evidence for an afterlife, there is no evidence for an afterstar. That is, a time that we exist and our star does not exist. However if we develop the technology to go to visit other stars in this Galaxy please disregard the previous two sentences.

    • Your belief is highly improbable.

      We know a lot about main sequence stars like the sun. They don’t supernovae; that is common among stars with 2 to 3 times the Sun’s mass. Main sequence stars expand into red giants when they run out of fuel. That should occur in about 1 to 2 billion years.

      But, if you believe that this will occur now, why are you staying around to be burned to a crisp? Shouldn’t suicide be preferable? You can make it a more pleasant ending. I’ll tell you how. It’s the one way I’m kind to Leftists. LOL

      • Louis, I checked you. Thanks for the correction. You are right, a star with less than 8 or 12 times the mass of our own sun (not 2 or 3 like you lied and said…LOL) will just burn out and become a White Dwarf when it dies, and then it will eventually spiral into the black hole at the center of our Galaxy. In the event that I transcend into some sort of intelligence that can be there to see that, I’m going to be singing Jesus Loves me right up until the point of the singularity. Because nothing can shake my faith.

        • I was being excessively modest. But, my point was correct wasn’t it? A supernova is out of the question.

          The Universe still has eons ahead of it. There is no rush. No need to speed things up. Not even Global Nuclear War seems probable. Of course, we have a pesky meltdown of the US Dollar to look forward to. Meanwhile, the Chinese are trying to buy up America. That didn’t work out well when the Japanese tried that in the 90s.

          I’m a rather stubborn fellow, myself. So, no suicide for me, no matter how painful the future gets.

          • Yes you are right, no supernova according to what we know about our star. It will fizzle, rather than explode. Not enough mass to force an explosion. But as for humanity, I believe the Yellowstone caldera blowing, or an asteroid hitting us, are getting more and more overdue by the day, to wipe us out. As for nations, yes, it’s our debt that will destroy this country just like bankruptcy ultimately brings down all empires.

            • Our Sun will expand into a Red Giant, but we humans will be long gone by that time.

              Maybe, long before that happens, we will have escaped the Solar System, taken control of our genome and bred a super race. Saturn or Uranus won’t be consumed; we could relocate to their moons. Or maybe, our progeny will become cyborgs which, in time, will lose their organic parts. Science Fiction has explored these possibilities.

              Our Ancestors survived the last three explosions of the Yellowstone caldera. So, a new explosion would ruin the United States, but not the world. The same for most asteroids. Those are improbable events, which will forecast themselves far enough in advance to enable us to move them out of Earth’s path.

              Humanity came close to extinction when Mount Toba exploded 75 to 80 thousand years ago. Our ancestors were reduced to around 10 thousand people. I don’t see us being annihilated, now.

              Our financial crisis is not likely to destroy us either, however painful it will be. It will be a necessary correction to the excesses of our fractional reserve banking system, the Progressive’s control of American politics and the excesses of big government. America will survive, but the big cities controlled by the Liberals might go up in flames.

              The Red States will have jobs, food and fuel in the coming crisis. Soon enough, people will vote with their feet to leave the Blue States. Of course, they may try to take their failed Liberal policies to their new locations. But, with the end of Mass media, Hollywood and the Public Schools, they are unlikely to maintain their power.

  75. Sun cycle 25 will certainly be quiet, it is based on previous cycles length. Lot’s of crop failures are to be expected due to long winters, wet springs and summers. 25% of all Scots died in the 1680s from crop failure famine. We will all be wishing it warms soon.

  76. Hay Obama gore a little lesson for you the sun control the weather on earth as well as the rest of the solar system. What are you going to do fine the sun for not falling inline with your bs golbal worming global cooling climate change what ever suit the next weather condition energy scam agenda.
    If you left wing progressive Obama lap dogs get what you want we will have a dead planet. The planet goes threw cycles if it does not we all die. the earth has had thousands of ice ages and 1000 of hot ages if it didn’t not earth would be like mars. Stop trying to control every thing. Have you not noticed every thing government gets involved in goes to sh t. If all government were gone their would be no war. As soon as some arrogant power hungry fool forms a government next comes a war. Two laws No governemtns and dont mess with any one else done earth at peace.

  77. Every semester, my chemistry students ask me about “climate change” and what I think about it. My answer is that the Earth’s climate always changes. It has been changing since the Earth’s atmosphere formed billions of years ago. It will continue to change long after we are extinct as a species. There is nothing we can do about it. I hope the climate gets warmer for the next few thousand years, because the alternative is an ice age. I’d rather have an extra growing season in Canada and Russia than a two-mile thick glacier as far south as Iowa and Germany.

  78. Al Gore is a prescient genius! He did not incorporate a single green technology in the building of his huge home/office complex because he wanted it to be responsible for more global warming since he could see this coming a mile away!

  79. Well, I am sure when you bring this fact to the table in a discussion with the environmentalists, it will go over their head quite quickly and they will somehow blame humans for the solar cycle being weak. You see they never want an end to the debate. They hope this so-called crisis never ends so they can get on with their agenda of controlling humanity’s activities.

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  83. This MMGW or AGW or whatever name fits, is a bunch of malarkey. The following questions are aimed at the “climate is changing” crowd. I will accept their premise as gospel.

    All we know is, continued use of fossil fuel will bring “bad climate change”.
    Agree or disagree.

    Then, reduced or discontinued use of fossil fuel will cause bad climate change to stop or, maybe, reverse.
    Agree or disagree.

    What metric will be used to alert us that “bad climate change” has stopped or “good climate change” has begun?

    Any SWAG(Scientific Wild Ass Guess) for a time line is optional and appreciated.

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    • I wonder which was worse.. Bush’s moment of silence after 9-11 or Obama’s 40 second speech then resuming his speech with jokes.. can the leftists weigh in on Obama’s response? Anyone?

  85. Bush’s fault! Uh, I mean, Global Warming, Global Warming, aaacckk! Oh, wait, this is an extra-terrestrial event. Well, to hell with it: Bush’s fault! Global Warming! Raise Taxes! Support BloNobba and Algore!

    • Do you think you’re being clever or are you just naturally an idiot? Seriously, are you really that desperate for attention that you make a fool of yourself in the comment section? Kinda pathetic.

  86. When the sun spots disappear get ready for a LITTLE ICE AGE. I think we are seeing the start of the process considering the wheather this past winter in the north and whats happening currently to the south pole. The sun spots generate heat because of the twisting of plasma and magnetic fields. The surface temperature of the sun is 10,000 degrees F however above this atmosphere when there are sun spots you get solar flares that reach 1,000,000 degrees F. So without the extra heat the earth gets cooler ie LITTLE ICE AGE.

  87. Of all the articles I have read on the web, the comments to this article are funniest ever (and I mean that in a good way).
    I just hope this comment gets past the www inventor and everyone can see it.

  88. Global Warming (climate change) gas’s: Water vapor is the highest, Methane, and finally co2. Termites are the largest Methane generators followed by cows, then politicians. CO2 is generated by all living things that breath and by rotting vegetable material and fires. CO2 along with methane occurs in great abundance at the bottom of the ocean at about 1200 feet and forms methane ice. I don’t think you can stop a LITTLE ICE AGE by pumping CO2 into the atmosphere as global warming is a function of the energy that you get from the sun.

    • The sun plays a big part in it, yes, that is true, but we can, and do have an impact with the amount of carbon we put into the atmosphere each year. That combined with continued deforestation, forests being one of the big carbon sinks in our environment, will lead to a ruined planet…

      You don’t shyt in your house, do you? Why not? Because it makes your house unlivable… the earth is the only house we have in this universe, do what you can to limit your output of shyt.

                    • be done cause there is no debate. Nature wins over humans. Sorry to tell you that. Last ice age was caused by a volcano not a billion caveman lighting campfires.

                    • I got my benz, I’m happy with it and not changing a thing, but your claim that there is no debate is just as bad as the far lefts claim that the science is settled. I’m no environut by any means but I at least have the intellectual honesty to admit that we do have an impact.

                      There were about a billion people in 1900, there are over 7 billion people today. We now use over a billion cars every day. All you have to do is look at the skylines of major cities around the world to see the smog and pollution that cars create, look at pictures of major cities from space to see that we have become a cancer on the surface of this planet. Look at the north central Pacific ocean with it’s island of trash floating around caused by what? Man and his trash.

                      We are having an impact, that you can’t see it and admit it is your delusion.

                    • Ok lets talk about smog how did that change the climate in LA? It has been the same. Where can you show that the billion people on earth that are spread out have more impact then methane gas fields in the ocean or a volcano. There is no data for you to debate on. I think is not a debate. Trash is not a climate problem. It is just trash sure it sucks to eat it if your a fish but does it change the climate no it does not. I used the lighter analogy to show you that you and many others have no impact if you test it you will see the truth. How many lighters do you need to heat up a room?

                    • No I do not put a candle in your room tonight and see what impact it has hell put 10-15 of them. What size room? Is the window open? How about the AC is it on? How about lets get real how about a concert hall are the doors open? Is it already cold outside or is it hot? What is the difference of the outside climate compared to inside. No, one lighter or candle in a normal house will not change the average temperature. Remember the earth has no walls so the heat can not accumulate. Just like your car it dissipates now pollution what causes more a volcano or a 1 billion cars? I vote on the volcano.

                    • LOL! See what I mean, you can’t debate this honestly…? Cars generate heat, a lot of it. Sure, they’re a small part in the overall picture of how our climate goes, but they still add up. Same thing applies to other forms of heat we humans create. Every week, China and India bring 5 more coal burning plants online. These also generate heat that is added to the overall climate. Cars and coal burning plants generate heat AND they emit carbon into the atmosphere that heats up the atmosphere…

                      Dude… I’m not drinking your kool aid bro… you’re rationalizing things overly much. We have an impact, and in the decades to come as our population skyrockets to 10, 15 billion, 20 billion people, and uses more and more fossil fuels to keep us comfortable and content, we will have even more of an impact.

                      Debate honestly next time.

                    • No doubt they generate heat. You need to go to school and learn how heat dissipates. Just cause you make heat from working out in the gym does not heat up the gym to the point that a fire starts. I do not care how many people are in the gym a fire will not start. Have your dreams that you as a human are more impact then the earth itself. You can to deflate an ego. I myself know I am not so amazing that I can change the earth with my car. You have a Mercedes so you obviously think a lot about yourself. At the end of the day you did nothing to impact the earth sad to say.

                    • Yes, it dissipates, bravo Professor Oblivious! It dissipates where though? Into the atmosphere. And then where does it dissipate to from there? Into space! But guess what? There is a big difference in the dissipation rate into space when you have a population of 1 billion people surviving burning coal fires, oil lamps, etc than there is when you have 7 billion people burning massive amounts of coal in electricity plants, driving cars that never existed before adding to the carbon output into the atmosphere, had planes, etc, etc, etc… There is a point at which the atmosphere can’t dissipate the heat into space fast enough. A point where the heat begins to convect like in an oven. It’s not much when it’s a billion people, but when more than 7 billion people are doing it… When 15 billion people are doing it…

                      Dude, I’m seriously done with you… You think too small

                    • Good be gone demon. Enjoy your hippy thoughts of grandeur. How cold is it in space? That is where the heat goes. Thank you for realizing that. Again yes we humans effect the earth and make it polluted do we effect the climate no. Have a good day.

                    • I actually did some research and tested ideas on climate change. What did you do? Thinking of an idea is not a fact. Testing them does lead to probably of results. Guessing that something might occur does not mean it does.

                    • How scientifically minded of you to say. That’s the spirit! Now if only your assumptions were right… There is no doubt that we’re having an impact on the climate. the debate is the extent of it.

                      Do you ever wonder what life would be like if you’d had enough oxygen at birth Itsthesun?

                    • Huh? Good so we have a debate and neither one of us has enough facts to prove our point. That is why it called a debate. In the end we lose cause we will freeze to death in the end from a meteor strike that blocks the sun and returns the earth to what it once was.

                    • I have kids and am teaching them PSEUDOscience, be warned…

                      Fixed it for you, and duly noted.

  89. Here’s a conspiracy theory. They are probably know this world is dying and the sun will be expanding soon as the next stage of it’s death. They are stockpiling food, supplies, weapons, and money to build a secret Martian base. After we have been inundated with illegals, riots, shortages, arabs, etc they can make their getaway and leave us to die on earth.